Can you gain half string job from a reel if you bridge the last string by starting clamp?

Two-piece stringing. Each string job saves certain inches per piece, x 2 pieces, x 17 string jobs.

Just asking. I don't have a starting clamp.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Fact : You will lose roughly 16 feet of string on the crosses when you end up short and don't have enough to tie off the last cross (even if you bridge with a starting clamp). You will lose more string on each main you end up short and can't tie off.

Fact #2: a good starting clamp (Babolat) makes stringing easier. Having two good starting clamps is even nicer

Would I use your plan ? Never

Edited so @Wes can understand my gibberish.
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Two-piece stringing. Each string job saves certain inches per piece, x 2 pieces, x 17 string jobs.

Just asking. I don't have a starting clamp.
Assuming I’m going to string a mid plus 16x19 frame I would start with 36’. A 200 m or 656’ reel will give me 18 - 36’ sets and I’ll end up with 8’ left over. I will string each racket as though I’m stringing it 1 piece with a short side and long side, and tie off the mains. What I cut off the short side is trash and what I cut off the long side is used to string the crosses and there’s zero waste. With a starting knot I will have about 1” of waste for the top cross and usually more than enough to string the crosses. So the only real waste is what you use to tie the short side and bottom cross plus 1”. Measure carefully and know exactly what you need and you can easily get 19 string jobs from a reel depending on you string and frame. YMMV.
 

esgee48

Legend
Here's a little more detail. It is how I would do it. As an example, measure out 36' Prestring the SS or all the mains with no tension. Either way is OK. On the SS, make your you have enough slack to reach the gripper. If not poly, subtract about 4" since string will stretch. If poly, add about 2". Tension all the mains. Tie off all the mains. Now cut the remaining LS. Use Starting knot for 1st cross. Weave and tension all the crosses. Tie off the last cross. Now measure surplus minus what it took to reach the gripper. (36' - surplus) is what you will need the next time you string this frame. Write this infomation down since we all do not have perfect memories. 8-B

You could do this using a 40' pack of string and the resulting data would be accurate for pulling from a reel.
 

Wes

Professional
Can you gain half string job from a reel if you bridge the last string by starting clamp?
The short answer is - "Yes, you absolutely can".
Furthermore, depending on a few factors, you may be able to gain even more than that (i.e. 2 additional half jobs... or 1 additional full string job).

If I really have to break down the math, I can do that.
However, hopefully you'll simply listen to these words of wisdom without us breaking out the chalkboard and calculator.

I'm telling you - if you're cutting string from reels - every inch counts.
I routinely utilize this very tactic, which you are considering, to maximize reels.

I talk about this exact tactic from 3:50-4:55 here...

Watch 8:00-10:50 and 22:50-25:00 here...

See 0:00-1:02, then 10:35-11:30, and finally 26:15-27:15


Note:
Even if you were to purchase a $35 starting clamp and used it for absolutely nothing else, except for "bridging" (which would obviously be silly, but we're talking hypothetically here), you would still save enough string - and therefore string cost - that the starting clamp would pay for itself anyway.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
If I am stringing 4 frames a day the last thing I want to do is bridge three strings per frame.

I also run a slow stream of hot water when a shave as I don't live in a desert and have more water than we know what to do with. About to get a lot more H2O tomorrow from some tropical storm named isaias.


@Wes is far more patience and accomplished than me and his videos are outstanding. No offense @Irvin as you have taught me a lot along the way with your videos as well.
 

Wes

Professional
Fact #2: a good starting clamp (Babolat) makes stringing easier. Having two good starting clamps is even nicer
I concur. :giggle:

Fact : You will lose roughly 16 feet of string on each cross string you don't have enough to tie off the last cross even with a starting clamp. You will lose more string on each main you end up short.
I'm a little slow. So, I don't understand this statement.

Can someone please explain this for me?
Anyone... anyone... @g4driver? @Rabbit? @jim e? Bueller?
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
I think he's saying if you short yourself an inch trying to 'save', you may end up wasting the whole cross string if you come up short.

*this is my interpretation because I've done it
 

Wes

Professional
I think he's saying if you short yourself an inch trying to 'save', you may end up wasting the whole cross string if you come up short.

*this is my interpretation because I've done it
Oh.
Well, if that is what was being conveyed - naturally, that makes sense indeed.
The way it was worded, I couldn't make heads, or tails, of it. :oops:
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Oh.
Well, if that is what was being conveyed - naturally, that makes sense indeed.
The way it was worded, I couldn't make heads, or tails, of it. :oops:
I can edit it to make it crystal clear. :) Sorry I was on Exedrine with a raging headache this am when I replied.
 
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