Can You Play 4.0 and Open At a Tournament ?

I am looking to play what seems to be a joint USTA and UTR tournament in a couple weeks. It seems like USTA is governing the NTRP division and UTR is governing the Open division. I've never played a tournament before and so I don't know exactly how it works. I would love to play both the 4.0, where I think I will be very competitive, and Open, where I can really see how my game compares to people much better than me. But, I don't know if this is possible. It seems you are able to play multiple events, but I'm not sure if that's referring to playing singles and doubles only.

https://tennislink.usta.com/tournaments/tournamenthome/tournament.aspx?t=238990#&&s=0

I was hoping someone could help clear this up for me, please?
 
Usually you can play two events total, not just doubles and singles but any two events like open and over 50s open, but depends on tournament.
 

5sets

Semi-Pro
I don’t see why not. Just make sure you are fit enough, I know me personally would not want to. Often you play 2 matches a day per tourney so if you sign up for 2 events you could potentially play 4 matches in a day.


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Cashman

Professional
Maybe Open means something different in the US, but round here a 4.0 type player would get smashed in the first round of an Open tournament.

I’m not sure they’d even be allowed to enter qualifying.
 

Chadalina

Hall of Fame
Open is truely open, even 3.0's can enter. 4.0 has more limitations upon entry.

The only time you cant enter two events if there is a court shortage or time limitations.

Generally, the more events you enter, the more money they get. So they usually allow it.

I see only one single, doubles and mixed in your link. I dont see an open

$86 to play a tournament with no prize money is a bit lol
 
Open is truely open, even 3.0's can enter. 4.0 has more limitations upon entry.

The only time you cant enter two events if there is a court shortage or time limitations.

Generally, the more events you enter, the more money they get. So they usually allow it.

I see only one single, doubles and mixed in your link. I dont see an open

$86 to play a tournament with no prize money is a bit lol
It's a tournament for charity. The open tournament (with prize money) is through UTR and you can see that through a link on the tournament page. I figure I would probably lose my first match badly anyways for the open tournament, but I would like to see how my game and level is against very good opposition. But, at the same time, I think I could be very competitive at 4.0, and so it's a predicament.
 

Chadalina

Hall of Fame
It's a tournament for charity. The open tournament (with prize money) is through UTR and you can see that through a link on the tournament page. I figure I would probably lose my first match badly anyways for the open tournament, but I would like to see how my game and level is against very good opposition. But, at the same time, I think I could be very competitive at 4.0, and so it's a predicament.
I see it now (more info button). The max you can pay is $130, id def play the open if they still have room.

Id ask if if there is a seperate cost for the open. Seems like a different tournament. Also has different prices. I dont think its included with your $86 ntrp one. But cant hurt to ask

That tournament has good money, you may get to be a seed feed and play a top 400 player in the first round. The best lesson you will ever get. I was friends with tournament directors here when i was a junior so i got lots of butt kickings, but got to see how its properly done.

Took me like 2 years to get my first win in an open (and played alot), finally got to play a college guy
 
The (locally) lowest rated entry I ever noticed was a 3.5 guy enrolled in an men's open, but he withdrew before it started. (probably due to the "Personal circumstance" of actually seeing who his first round opponent would be). For the draw of a local open, I usually see two or three 4.0s, more 4.5s, and then serious contenders of former college players, one was a current NCAA assistant coach, the toughest guy was a UTR 12.

You might get another 4.0 dreamer in the first round, and brag that you got through to the 2nd round of an open, but eventually: UTR 12 will be serving first to you.
 
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5sets

Semi-Pro
That’s a very strong Open field looking at the entries. If you’re a 4.0 ntrp (5-7 UTR) you may want to steer clear of that unless you want a swift 35 minute butt kicking to the tune of $90.

It doesn’t look like the UTR Open is included in the combining of events fee as mentioned earlier.

Some smaller Opens have some 4.0s playing in them, but this one does not appear to.


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5sets

Semi-Pro
According to the tournament page the Open participants are given free beer throughout the weekend.

I say go for it for that reason, pull the trigger what the he11


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I am looking to play what seems to be a joint USTA and UTR tournament in a couple weeks. It seems like USTA is governing the NTRP division and UTR is governing the Open division. I've never played a tournament before and so I don't know exactly how it works. I would love to play both the 4.0, where I think I will be very competitive, and Open, where I can really see how my game compares to people much better than me. But, I don't know if this is possible. It seems you are able to play multiple events, but I'm not sure if that's referring to playing singles and doubles only.

https://tennislink.usta.com/tournaments/tournamenthome/tournament.aspx?t=238990#&&s=0

I was hoping someone could help clear this up for me, please?
I've decided I'm probably just going to do 4.0. Open looks way too tough for me right now.
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
It's a tournament for charity. The open tournament (with prize money) is through UTR and you can see that through a link on the tournament page. I figure I would probably lose my first match badly anyways for the open tournament, but I would like to see how my game and level is against very good opposition. But, at the same time, I think I could be very competitive at 4.0, and so it's a predicament.
If you are a legitimate 4.0, you are going to get completely destroyed at the Open level. Unless you play other lower level players who sign up for Open
 

5sets

Semi-Pro
Agreed. Not worth spending the money on. I think I'm going to stick with the 4.0.
This should not discourage you from
Trying Open Level in the future though. Just the big money Opens bring out the strongest players but I’ve played in plenty of smaller local ones that have a nice portion of 4.5s sprinkled with some 4.0s and 5.0s.



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This should not discourage you from
Trying Open Level in the future though. Just the big money Opens bring out the strongest players but I’ve played in plenty of smaller local ones that have a nice portion of 4.5s sprinkled with some 4.0s and 5.0s.



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For sure. At my best, I know that I can compete at a 4.5 level, but if there are going to be a bunch of almost exclusively 5.0-6.0 players, the entry fee is too big to justify it. I'm headed to a different city soon, and will look into tournaments at my new destination when I get there.
 

Cashman

Professional
"TFW" Five years of work to make it to a 4.0 and still considered "lower level" scrub on the forum :cry::X3:
It's all relative. At least where I am, there is no shame in being not good enough for Open tournaments - they offer national ranking points, and it is basically the level below Futures.
 
Lost my semifinal match 6-2, 7-6(6). My legs were gone after yesterday, but credit to him for winning the match. He served for the match in the second set and choked from 6-3 to 6-6 in the tiebreak, I just didn't have it in me today in the heat, but I think it was a successful tournament!
 
Guy I played in the semis apparently ended up winning the title! I was two points away from taking the second set and getting it to a match tiebreak. Darn!
 
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