Can you rally 100 balls from the BL?

Can you rally 100 balls from the BL?


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Fintft

Legend
Don't pick someone with patellar tendonitis. Pick...De Minaur.



As if that would raise my chances. :laughing:
Nadal in 2010 was amazing, last time I've checked him on youtube
So are many other guys: i.e. have you seen Hugo Humbert on grass? Or Medvedev anywhere? Djokovic after he started using his pod?

As for the later: yes it would, I think lol Truth be told there doesn't seem to be much difference between 50 and 100. Same as it isn't one between 500 and 1000 jumps.
 

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal in 2010 was amazing, last time I've checked him on youtube
So are many other guys: i.e. have you seen Hugo Humbert on grass? Or Medvedev anywhere? Djokovic after he started using his pod?

As for the later: yes it would, I think lol Truth be told there doesn't seem to be much difference between 50 and 100. Same as it isn't one between 500 and 1000 jumps.
0x100 = 0
0x50 = 0

QED
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
We were interrupted today after 80 balls, as the coach's phone rang.
You said rally, so these are just deep safe balls that are in that purposefully don't kill the rally. Its really a pointless exercise but yep I can do it.

Here you go and mad props to @Papa Mango for doing that with a 2 hander. He normally rocks a 1 hander and for like 2-4 months he was using a 2 hander....pretty impressive.

Vid or it didnt happen.
 

Papa Mango

Semi-Pro
You said rally, so these are just deep safe balls that are in that purposefully don't kill the rally. Its really a pointless exercise but yep I can do it.

Here you go and mad props to @Papa Mango for doing that with a 2 hander. He normally rocks a 1 hander and for like 2-4 months he was using a 2 hander....pretty impressive.

Vid or it didnt happen.
B.O.R.I.N.G
When was this? 6 years ago. Going thru TE again (happened when I hit with a non-noodle wrong balance frame)
and my two hander is better this time around.
Betcha we could 117 this time around
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
B.O.R.I.N.G
When was this? 6 years ago. Going thru TE again (happened when I hit with a non-noodle wrong balance frame)
and my two hander is better this time around.
Betcha we could 117 this time around
Yep 117 for sure!

Fwiw i thought long term you would be better with a 2 hander simply because of variety. It was a flatter shot wheras the 1 hander is more like the forehand. Looks like the tennis elbow gods agree

Noodles blow.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
I might be able to with a coach as my partner. With most of my playing partners, no way, since they all hit flat with tight margins. I've intentionally tried it once and got to 50. But it was just blooping balls back. The real sign of consistency is if you can do it with a normal rally ball and not an overly safe one.
 

Fintft

Legend
I might be able to with a coach as my partner. With most of my playing partners, no way, since they all hit flat with tight margins. I've intentionally tried it once and got to 50. But it was just blooping balls back. The real sign of consistency is if you can do it with a normal rally ball and not an overly safe one.
Same problem with my current partners (I missed my best one, a club champion and kids coach himself who moved out of town. Trying to recruit some better ones, by playing ladder matches)
For the moment, I'm paying the coach CAN 40-50, once or twice a week, for about a 1.5h lesson and it's like night and day difference, between her and my partners.

As for an answer to your last sentence, yes and I'd refer you to:

a) Post #19 above, when we counted how many balls (that were rising as they passed the BL) we managed to hit in a minute: 26

b) Coach's @Jake Speeed drill, to try to hit, 15-20 deep drive balls (about 80% power) DTM.
I managed to do max a dozen of those with only one of my partners, but that was more then a month ago
 
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Fintft

Legend
You said rally, so these are just deep safe balls that are in that purposefully don't kill the rally. Its really a pointless exercise but yep I can do it.

Here you go and mad props to @Papa Mango for doing that with a 2 hander. He normally rocks a 1 hander and for like 2-4 months he was using a 2 hander....pretty impressive.

Vid or it didnt happen.
Nice!

And you are right, you were hitting with a lot of net margin, while us were hitting a tad flatter, more of a normal rally ball (meaning also more scrambling).

Anyhow I prefer coach's @Jake Speeed drill, to try to hit, 15-20 deep drive balls (about 80% power) DTM.
I managed to do max a dozen of those with only one of my partners, but that was more then a month ago
 
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Enga

Hall of Fame
I've never rallied that long. But it's a fun game that I like playing, just seeing how many times we can get it back and counting it as we go along.
 

Fintft

Legend
Can you try another one next time where every ball should land at least a meter behind the service line?
That's the goal for BL rallying, isn't it?
Anyhow that's how I rally (not to mention the coach), very few balls landing shorter than the SL or on it.
 

Jake Speeed

Professional
ATP players "rally" all the time, hitting quality drives designed to move the other player around.

Watch them carefully, no one generally "over hits" until they have the opportunity or a chance to hit their favorite shot.

JS
 

Fintft

Legend
ATP players "rally" all the time, hitting quality drives designed to move the other player around.

Watch them carefully, no one generally "over hits" until they have the opportunity or a chance to hit their favorite shot.

JS
I have to practice the former more, that's why I am happy that I am hitting with a coach at least weekly and will also restart matches next week.

With all these weaker partners (with non-existing BHs), I send most of my balls in their striking range of their FHs, while they do the opposite to me. I babied my FH for their sake (but not necessarelly my BH) and my FH has been gone done the drain, power wise :(
Starting tomorrow, I''ll put consistency on hold (except maybe for the hitting with margins part, like DTM) and focus more on FH power, at least for "quality drives designed to move the other player around."
 
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SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
Not done it for quite a few years. But have done 200 with mini-tennis and with BL rallies a few times with consistent intermediate students. Never bothered to go past that.
 
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FuzzyYellowBalls

Hall of Fame
Still, much much harder than baseline rallying.
I think it might be for most, but for me if baseline was limited to topspin only, I'd prefer volleying, I can do that half asleep, the preference being going for 200 or more for sure, I guess 100 top spin baseline wouldn't be too bad.
 

socallefty

Legend
When I do consistency drills, we usually try for 50 shots (25 each) and will start hitting harder and more towards the sidelines once we get to 50 shots so that someone will typically make an error by 60 or 65 shots. I have one friend who doesn’t do that and with him I’ve had 100 shot rallies a couple of times. It helps that he is a lefty like me and we can just hit crosscourt FHs to each other with heavy topspin and not much pace forever without any pressure to miss.
 

Purestriker

Semi-Pro
ATP players "rally" all the time, hitting quality drives designed to move the other player around.

Watch them carefully, no one generally "over hits" until they have the opportunity or a chance to hit their favorite shot.

JS
Their version of rally balls is very different than ours. Way more power and topspin. So over hitting isn’t the same.
 

Fintft

Legend
Now that it's become fashionable, everyone, all of a sudden are, "Experts" in maintaining rallies.

:p :alien:
Actually now I'm practicing, how to hit with power again on my FH (relaxed, etc), since I can do that better with my 1HBH, which I haven't babied so much over the last few months :)
The coach still killed me yesterday having depth, power and spin at the same time, but kindly indicated that I've also managed, at times, once I've relaxed.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
lol. Forum up since back in 2004, with most everything repeated over and over, but you get those self-adulating folks come in and think they've preached some new gospel to the unclean masses.
 

myke232

Semi-Pro
What's the point? Watch the pros do a hitting session... they rarely go more than 10-12 balls before an error...
 
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