Not talking about a one time blast, but getting maybe, 60% of your 1st serves in.
DamnYes. I am exactly 6 feet tall, but I can hit up to 111 mph. My average is 92 mph and I serve at 67% first serves in.
Damn
Wow i'm 5'7 currently & I still have 4 or so more years of growing so hopefully I can get taller to be able to hit more consistent aces. (I don't hit very many)I have a few friends who are shorter than me and have very good serves as well. Some of them serve way better than me lol
Not talking about a one time blast, but getting maybe, 60% of your 1st serves in.
Still that's super good!I am just under 6ft and used to serve 100+ pretty easy. Can still hit 95 mph, but I am getting old and the shoulder isn't what she used to be.
This guy should have turned pro. i think he was good enough to be top 500 player in the tour. Even Mcenroe couldn't serve this bigYes. I am exactly 6 feet tall, but I can serve up to 111 mph. My average is 92 mph and I serve at 67% first serves in.
Wow i'm 5'7 currently & I still have 4 or so more years of growing so hopefully I can get taller to be able to hit more consistent aces. (I don't hit very many)
Crazy fast I have a friend 2 years older than me & he has a kick for 1st & 2nd so it's quite annoying for me to always jump & hit a buggy whipThis guy should have turned pro. i think he was good enough to be top 500 player in the tour. Even Mcenroe couldn't serve this big
This guy should have turned pro. i think he was good enough to be top 500 player in the tour. Even Mcenroe couldn't serve this big
My average is 92 mph and I serve at 67% first serves in.
My average is 92 mph and I serve at 67% first serves in.
Very nice looking serv. 67% is a great number.
I was asking about 100 mph, not sure 100 mph is doable??
5 foot 8 and 110 mph, that's exceptional. it wasn't kph ,,, right ? anyway, what % of 1st serves did you get in on usual day of match ?I'm around 5'7-8" and I used to hit ~110 in HS.
A few ex-college guys I hit with have told me that my best first serves are in the neighborhood of ~100mph. And now I'm 40.
So yeah, it can be done.
5 foot 8 and 110 mph, that's exceptional. it wasn't kph ,,, right ?
5 foot 8 and 110 mph, that's exceptional. it wasn't kph ,,, right ? anyway, what % of 1st serves did you get in on usual day of match ?
How tall was POMO guy? He could serve 120's no problem. 110 mph FH too. Claimed he could take a game or two against Joker or Fed.
However he still lost to TTW legend dgold.
On the bright side, little old ladies at the club feared for their lives while playing against POMO. So his 100 mph+ serves were good for something.
Diego Schwartzman, 5ft.-7in., has entered the thread. Stats are from tennis abstract dot com. I serve around 85-90 on my best days, according to a buddy who has uncanny ability to measure speeds vs. a radar gun.
Yes. I am exactly 6 feet tall, but I can serve up to 111 mph. My average is 92 mph and I serve at 67% first serves in.
Are these speeds measured on a probably configured measuring device, estimates or guess work based off frame-rates?
Sorry to be a skeptic but I have played against someone who could hit 125mph, measured on an LTA speed gun and lots of players who claimed to be able to hit treble figure serves.
All I can say is when I played the 125 guy, if he hit the corners, the serve was past me before I could even react. Even if I got a racket on it, I could feel the power jarring my arm, it had a lot of weight on the serve.
The other guys who supposedly had 100 mph plus serves, some claiming teens or even in the 120 range? I could pretty much return everyone of their serves, unless they caught the lines and even then I could often get a racket on it. There is no way they were anywhere near as big as the 125 guys serve.
Besides getting obsessed with service speed is a bit pointless for rec players, the most effective serves are not always the fastest. Reliability, variety, accuracy and disguise are as important, if not more important than speed.
Sampras listed @ 6’1” so someone 6’ is not much of a disadvantageJ.J. Wolf can serve over120 mph and he is just 6' (but probably a bit smaller and "rounding up )
Well there is a huge difference between a 125 mph serve and a 100 mph serve...
...getting obsessed with service speed is a bit pointless for rec players, the most effective serves are not always the fastest. Reliability, variety, accuracy and disguise are as important, if not more important than speed.
The serve speed stats I've seen for Diego has his 1st serve average for various events ranging from 98 to 106 mph. This would certainly suggest that his fastest serves were above these average serve speeds.Diego can barely pass 100 and posters here are hitting 100 with a high percentage? Something does not add up.
Sampras listed @ 6’1” so someone 6’ is not much of a disadvantage
his arms seem normal length here.Sampras had ape length arms that hung past mid thigh.
Yeah, you're right.his arms seem normal length here.
My favorite serve is hitting that outside corner with a touch of slice or kick at around 90mph +/- 5mph. That is hard work for most folks to return.
As for the unicorn of 100mph, I regularly play guys from high 3.5 to 4.0+ that serve 95 average and upwards to 110. The doubters always ask and people post match videos in the past, and then everyone does those frame calculations and it usually averages out to somewhere around those ranges. From my match play experience it is more common than not, and not really too magical. I see bigger serves more in singles though, so was just thinkig about that as an interesting factor and why that might be. Anoth interesting thing that I noticed is, that 100mph seems to be a level, and maybe based on standard mechanics and exquipment. To get over 100mph just seems exponentially harder to make happen than going from 90 to 100 mph. That might just be anecdotal though.
So kinda begs the question... can we see this footage of 3.5-4.0 avg 95mph tennis? Yes I'm a doubter who likes being proven wrong.As for the unicorn of 100mph, I regularly play guys from high 3.5 to 4.0+ that serve 95 average and upwards to 110. The doubters always ask and people post match videos in the past, and then everyone does those frame calculations and it usually averages out to somewhere around those ranges. From my match play experience it is more common than not, and not really too magical.
The serve speed stats I've seen for Diego has his 1st serve average for various events ranging from 98 to 106 mph. This would certainly suggest that his fastest serves were above these average serve speeds.
I've come across plenty male collegiate, 5.0+ players and top juniors who could serve in excess of 100 mph. Even some HS and sub-5.0 players. But this does not necessarily mean that these players are hitting most of their first serves far in excess of 100 mph. Perhaps many can hit their faster serves in about 60% of the time. But this does not mean that they are hitting a high % of their 1st serves close to their top speed.
I recall that TennisSpeed.com published some serve speeds for collegiate and competitive junior players back in 2007. Doesn't look like the site is up any longer but a bit of it is archived on the WayBack Machine. Also managed to dig up this link:
Memo to American College and Junior Players: Find another 30 MPH ASAP!
Several posts ago, I summarized the serve speeds I measured for male and female National junior competitors at the Easter Bowl Championships...tennisspeedresearch.blogspot.com
Recently, a National Open Junior event was held in Denver for the Boys 18s division, and I used that opportunity to measure the serve speeds (first and second) of the participants there...
I measured the serve speeds of 34 of the 64 participants during live matchplay, and the results I found were interesting to say the least.
The fastest first serve was 118 MPH and the fastest second serve was 94 MPH...
30% of the total number of first serves measured (200+) exceeded 100 MPH.
70% of the players hit a first serve over 100 MPH.
15% of the 30% of the total number of first serves measured (200+) exceeded 100 MPH.
70% of the players hit a first serve over 100 MPH.
15% of the players hit a first serve over 110 MPH. hit a first serve over 110 MPH.
So kinda begs the question... can we see this footage of 3.5-4.0 avg 95mph tennis? Yes I'm a doubter who likes being proven wrong.
Sampras had ape length arms that hung past mid thigh.
Eddy Dibbs at 5'8" was timed many times during match play at 125+.
But I'm pretty sure Kriek was the biggest serving short guy in ATP.