Can't hit mini tennis forehand

Agree. My opinion still is that I dont believe in its benefit in warm-up for a match but it can be used for fun and maybe to improve touch and feel.

Yes ... it's a drill. We do drills on our own time. We do cooperative warm-ups together.

If you have someone who wants to try midi warm-up, give it a try. I actually find it a semi-useful warm-up, particularly if you have some sore parts. ;) I don't use it to prepare my baseline topspin or hit to targets ... already know how to do that. We all knew how to warm-up from baseline hitting easy strokes. I suspect the mini guys just don't know how (aren't good at ;)) controlled easy strokes from bl. They have to get closer to net for control deficiencies.

So if one can tell if a player can hit proper bl topspin or not by watching their mini tennis ... could they tell if they would pass their mini tennis parlor game test by watching their baseline strokes?

Here is another question ... is there the same mini spinny expectations for the eastern fh, sw fh, cont fh. I know if my goal was to be max mini spinny ... I would use a western.
 
MT during warm-up is almost an imperative for me....it's akin to stretching or hydrating before playing...I wouldn't think of not doing it. I hit with a decent amount of topspin and pace from the baseline, and the MT reminds me of all the little things I need to do to be successful playing my game style. I need to hit out front, move forward into shots, and brush up on the ball with varying degrees. MT allows me to "FEEL" those things when I'm doing it, thus hitting a nice little ball to the service box that kicks and dances. It essentially is a positive feedback loop that allows one to groove their stroke quickly, so that you're in that "pocket" when the real hitting starts from the baseline.

For me..it's all about feel with MT.
 
IMO the #1 reason folks can't do mini (given the have the right grip, and hit it decently from the baseline), is that they have no idea how to control their racquet drop (lag & snap - doesn't have to be big or exaggerated like sock's)... which for me, is the #1 reason i practice mini so religiously.
when you take a full groundie, big loop, alot of folks have that timing down... but they don't know how to condense it into a smaller loop

for me it's kinda like my "full baseline swing" is the equiv of pull the pinball plunger back all the way (which is what every noob pinball player does)...
but doing mini, is practice for being able to control the degree of plunger pullback (which most expert pinball players do)
 
MT during warm-up is almost an imperative for me....it's akin to stretching or hydrating before playing...I wouldn't think of not doing it. I hit with a decent amount of topspin and pace from the baseline, and the MT reminds me of all the little things I need to do to be successful playing my game style. I need to hit out front, move forward into shots, and brush up on the ball with varying degrees. MT allows me to "FEEL" those things when I'm doing it, thus hitting a nice little ball to the service box that kicks and dances. It essentially is a positive feedback loop that allows one to groove their stroke quickly, so that you're in that "pocket" when the real hitting starts from the baseline.

For me..it's all about feel with MT.

Why do you need to be "reminded"? How long have you played?
 
IMO the #1 reason folks can't do mini (given the have the right grip, and hit it decently from the baseline), is that they have no idea how to control their racquet drop (lag & snap - doesn't have to be big or exaggerated like sock's)... which for me, is the #1 reason i practice mini so religiously.
when you take a full groundie, big loop, alot of folks have that timing down... but they don't know how to condense it into a smaller loop

for me it's kinda like my "full baseline swing" is the equiv of pull the pinball plunger back all the way (which is what every noob pinball player does)...
but doing mini, is practice for being able to control the degree of plunger pullback (which most expert pinball players do)

You don't have to hit variations from baseline? ROS?

Also ... not everyone hits lag, snap, drop. If mini is atp flip fh specific ... that is fh discrimination. ;)

Warning: had my coffee ... ready for battle.
 
You don't have to hit variations from baseline? ROS?

Also ... not everyone hits lag, snap, drop. If mini is atp flip fh specific ... that is fh discrimination. ;)

Warning: had my coffee ... ready for battle.
anybody with a decent fh has some variation of racquet drop... it doesn't have to be a pronounced lag and snap (sock & kyrgios)
it could be more subtle (gilles simon)... or if you want to go old school, mcenroe. there's still a racquet drop - but mac keeps his racquet face more vertical and therefore no "flippy wrist thing" going on.

ironically, for non atp fh (mac), that don't have the extreme flip thing going on, it's MUCH easier to do mini, because you typically keep the face vertical, making it easier to hit (which is why alot of people switch to eastern or conti).
what people who have "atp fh" grips have issue with, is controlling the timing of their flip... and is exactly why they should be practicing it more.

even when i used to have a hawaiian grip, i was able to do mini (albeit not as proficiently), but the difficulties i experiend doing mini with a hawaiian grip fh, were the same issues i had on the baseline as well (ie. unable to get under the ball well). this is also why i love mini for quickly being able to see where folks (opponents or beginners) are having issues (ie. getitng under the ball).
9x out ten, if someone has issue with say getting under the ball for mini... guess what, i'm definitely gonna be slicing the ball to your fh more than i might have.

side note, i think mini is great for conti-grip half volley practice as well.
 
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anybody with a decent fh has some variation of racquet drop... it doesn't have to be a pronounced lag and snap (sock & kyrgios)
it could be more subtle (gilles simon)... or if you want to go old school, mcenroe. there's still a racquet drop - but mac keeps his racquet face more vertical and therefore no "flippy wrist thing" going on.

ironically, for non atp fh (mac), that don't have the extreme flip thing going on, it's MUCH easier to do mini, because you typically keep the face vertical, making it easier to hit (which is why alot of people switch to eastern or conti).

side note, i think mini is great for conti-grip half volley practice as well.

how vs why.

can't vs don't want to.

drill vs practice vs warm-up.

Mini is what spawned Pickleball. Some dude was walking his dog Pickle at a park ... and saw mini tennis. He had the thought ... if someone can talk people into doing THAT ... then ... I have a paddle and plastic ball to sell you.

:p
 
Why do you need to be "reminded"? How long have you played?

I've played 35 years, but I can get lazy and unfocused on the court at times, especially hitting with someone at a lower level...awesome huh? lol I need to remind myself of the simple things when my strokes feel "off" and MT seems to really help with that.
 
I've played 35 years, but I can get lazy and unfocused on the court at times, especially hitting with someone at a lower level...awesome huh? lol I need to remind myself of the simple things when my strokes feel "off" and MT seems to really help with that.

Oh ... another older guy with wisdom like me. I will now rate your opinions much higher. ;)
 
imo, mini tennis is the fastest way to see if someone understands how to hit with topspin or not. watching good players warm up with mini tennis is pretty impressive. so much brush, so little pace.

IMO this is why mini tennis is good. Swinging 100mph at the ball and making it go 30 ft. Both topspin and backspin. I like to just splitstep and play with the ball while warming up with mini. Only 10 min or so then move back and carry on. No big deal.
 
A lot of good players out there, especially older generation, who never played mini tennis. So I would disagree with the blanket assertion that if you don't see the value in mini-tennis, you're not a good player. Then again a lot of the older guys hit more controlled strokes anyway and not massive topspin with pace which they need to control.

Also, the best player I've played against and this guy used to be a 5.0...now in his mid 40s..prob still a solid 4.5, but doesn't play tournaments anymore. The guy is the pure epitome of first strike tennis. Even warmups, he likes to do the opposite...blast balls at 200mph and then gradually get the balls in without sacrificing much racquet speed, as opposed to most who like to start with slow controlled swings and then work their way up to more pace. So that's another solid player, one who would beat about 95% of rec players, who scoffs at mini-tennis. I'm sure there are others like him.
 
i thought mini tennis was played service line to service line. why would you need to stand back in no mans land?

For the same reason that a lot of people don't rally while standing on the BL but rather a few feet back: how well do you deal with a ball that lands on the line?
 
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For the same reason that a lot of people don't rally while standing on the BL but rather a few feet back: how well do you deal with a ball that lands on the line?

Also mini obviously started from the service line because it is there. If the tennis court dimensions were different, and the service line was in no man's ... probably would have started there. Nobody did a calculation and by coincidence the perfect spot for mini tennis drill just happened to be the service line. ;)

If the goal is actually a warm-up shorter than the baseline ... not sure why midi doesn't serve that purpose. If the goal is mini tennis skills from the service line ... then yeah.

Is mini from service line stroke fundamentals. Is mini closer to the net than service line even better fundamentals, and midi is not fundamentals. Also ... fundamentals for what? I have never seen a player inside the service line hit a little high spinny shot inside the opponents service line. I hit droppers from there ... or slice or drive to targets past service line.

So many questions from someone who can do it. ;)
 
A lot of good players out there, especially older generation, who never played mini tennis. So I would disagree with the blanket assertion that if you don't see the value in mini-tennis, you're not a good player. Then again a lot of the older guys hit more controlled strokes anyway and not massive topspin with pace which they need to control.

Also, the best player I've played against and this guy used to be a 5.0...now in his mid 40s..prob still a solid 4.5, but doesn't play tournaments anymore. The guy is the pure epitome of first strike tennis. Even warmups, he likes to do the opposite...blast balls at 200mph and then gradually get the balls in without sacrificing much racquet speed, as opposed to most who like to start with slow controlled swings and then work their way up to more pace. So that's another solid player, one who would beat about 95% of rec players, who scoffs at mini-tennis. I'm sure there are others like him.

The older generation calls it dinkum.

J
 
The high level players I've played can all rip the ball in mini tennis just about as hard as they can from the baseline. The short court rallies are just as competitive and intense as when we back up. Point is if you can't rip angles and display a full complement of skills in mini-tennis then their is something fundamentally wrong with your technique and strategy that you'd be better off addressing there than from the baseline.
 
The high level players I've played can all rip the ball in mini tennis just about as hard as they can from the baseline. The short court rallies are just as competitive and intense as when we back up. Point is if you can't rip angles and display a full complement of skills in mini-tennis then their is something fundamentally wrong with your technique and strategy that you'd be better off addressing there than from the baseline.
Doesn't sound like a warmup to me...
 
Doesn't sound like a warmup to me...
there are levels of warmup...
there's a couple guys i hit with that love mini...
so we start slow, as normal, but then we progressively take faster and faster heavy heavy topspin strokes (land ball in service box)... no outright drive, just focusin on heavy brush.
it's kinda fun, when you do it with someone that can.

it's really good for practicing sharp angle topspin shots to the T

and then we go back the baseline and bash.
 
there are levels of warmup...
there's a couple guys i hit with that love mini...
so we start slow, as normal, but then we progressively take faster and faster heavy heavy topspin strokes (land ball in service box)... no outright drive, just focusin on heavy brush.
it's kinda fun, when you do it with someone that can.

it's really good for practicing sharp angle topspin shots to the T

and then we go back the baseline and bash.

You wild basher.
 
so we start slow, as normal, but then we progressively take faster and faster heavy heavy topspin strokes (land ball in service box)... no outright drive, just focusin on heavy brush.
it's A LOT OF fun, when you do it with someone that can.

it's really good for practicing sharp angle topspin shots to the T

and then we go back the baseline and bash.
Fixed it for you! :)
 
Doesn't sound like a warmup to me...

It is at our level. Is the implication that you need to hit slow to find your stroke? Or that a warm up entails no movement (I don't hit with guys that can't or refuse to move)? The only difference between mini "warm up" tennis and full court tennis should be the distance you have to travel to track down shots. If you're dinking or changing your grip in the warm-up you're doing something wrong.
 
I had the weirdest dream last night. Sharapova and Ostapenko were playing mini tennis ... and they absolutely sucked at it. @mad dog1 was yelling at them that they had no fundamentals. @nytennisaddict told mad dog ... "yeah, I knew they would suck at mini by watching them hit their groundies". @Curious suggested that they both just play mini for 3 weeks ... first get a good mini ... and then do MANY Mini. @Pete Player said he could teach them, but they would have to wait until he got off his bag of ice and the meds. @Bender was taking a picture of Sharapova's butt. @J011yroger was with Bender ... and waved a can of tennis balls at Sharapova. When she looked at him, he held the can near his crotch ... winked at her and gave her the thumbs up. She was quite disgusted. @ChaelAZ was on the top row sitting by himself with his shirt off, taking a selfie while he rubbed his nipples. @Shroud was there in a black hoodie ... not paying too much attention. He was muttering that women know nothing about tennis strings. He had wrapped ZX around the umpires chair, and was stretching that ZX like a mad man. @S&V-not_dead_yet screamed at them (between mad dog screams) ... QUIT LETTING THE BALL BOUNCE ... DUH!!! @FiReFTW was talking with nyta ... and he thought Sharapova had a chance to make 5.0 in 5 years. @StringSnapper and @Dragy were smugly high-fiving each other ... saying this is exactly what you get without wall time. @IowaGuy looked on with disgust ... and said Steffi could do this easy. A couple of ttw members were there ... all sitting together but away from the rest ... saying this is the kind of poor play one should expect because of vaccines. Some dude speaking Polish was trying to demonstrate 2hfh mini without any movement of feet. I did not understand him in my dream.

Dreams are so weird.
 
It is at our level. Is the implication that you need to hit slow to find your stroke? Or that a warm up entails no movement (I don't hit with guys that can't or refuse to move)? The only difference between mini "warm up" tennis and full court tennis should be the distance you have to travel to track down shots. If you're dinking or changing your grip in the warm-up you're doing something wrong.


"Ripping angles" while standing at the service lines is a warmup? The cult of tennis gods who do these high velocity mini-tennis warm ups is a very selective bunch. I certainly don't see them going on at any major pro tournaments so it's REALLY selective.

The "inclination" of people on this forum to try to convince others of their superiority is truly magnificent. Especially when you say something as simple as " I don't think mini-tennis is a good use of warm up time." "You must just really SUCK to think mini-tennis isn't a good use of warm up time, 2.5 LOSER!!" :eek:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
"Ripping angles" while standing at the service lines is a warmup? The cult of tennis gods who do these high velocity mini-tennis warm ups is a very selective bunch. I certainly don't see them going on at any major pro tournaments so it's REALLY selective.

The "inclination" of people on this forum to try to convince others of their superiority is truly magnificent. Especially when you say something as simple as " I don't think mini-tennis is a good use of warm up time." "You must just really SUCK to think mini-tennis isn't a good use of warm up time, 2.5 LOSER!!" :eek:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
mini is not for everyone, and some very good players i know hate mini... (but they can do it)...
issue i have is when someone can't do it, then say mini is stupid (because they can't do it)
 
Sorry if someone mentioned this before and I missed it, but another tip that has helped me with mini-tennis is to shorten the take-back. By making the swing not slower, but just more compact you can more easily hit the ball out in front and have less power / plow-through on it.
 
I had the weirdest dream last night. Sharapova and Ostapenko were playing mini tennis ... and they absolutely sucked at it. @mad dog1 was yelling at them that they had no fundamentals. @nytennisaddict told mad dog ... "yeah, I knew they would suck at mini by watching them hit their groundies". @Curious suggested that they both just play mini for 3 weeks ... first get a good mini ... and then do MANY Mini. @Pete Player said he could teach them, but they would have to wait until he got off his bag of ice and the meds. @Bender was taking a picture of Sharapova's butt. @J011yroger was with Bender ... and waved a can of tennis balls at Sharapova. When she looked at him, he held the can near his crotch ... winked at her and gave her the thumbs up. She was quite disgusted. @ChaelAZ was on the top row sitting by himself with his shirt off, taking a selfie while he rubbed his nipples. @Shroud was there in a black hoodie ... not paying too much attention. He was muttering that women know nothing about tennis strings. He had wrapped ZX around the umpires chair, and was stretching that ZX like a mad man. @S&V-not_dead_yet screamed at them (between mad dog screams) ... QUIT LETTING THE BALL BOUNCE ... DUH!!! @FiReFTW was talking with nyta ... and he thought Sharapova had a chance to make 5.0 in 5 years. @StringSnapper and @Dragy were smugly high-fiving each other ... saying this is exactly what you get without wall time. @IowaGuy looked on with disgust ... and said Steffi could do this easy. A couple of ttw members were there ... all sitting together but away from the rest ... saying this is the kind of poor play one should expect because of vaccines. Some dude speaking Polish was trying to demonstrate 2hfh mini without any movement of feet. I did not understand him in my dream.

Dreams are so weird.
No more coffee old man
 
When I’ve taken lessons with the local college coach he insists on starting with mini tennis and says no slices. He wants me to be able to control the ball with full swings from close up. I also noticed that all the college guys start off warming up this way.
 
mini is not for everyone, and some very good players i know hate mini... (but they can do it)...
issue i have is when someone can't do it, then say mini is stupid (because they can't do it)

Funny thing is I was just watching a video on "building a better backhand" on youtube from one of the well known training sites. Part of the progression was practicing mini, but specifically mentioned "do not shorten your swing, slow it down" this is the mistake BEGINNERS make.

Yet there are a bunch of experts here talking about how they shorten their strokes when they do mini. Either there are different ways to do things, or some people are full of it with their expertise.
 
Funny thing is I was just watching a video on "building a better backhand" on youtube from one of the well known training sites. Part of the progression was practicing mini, but specifically mentioned "do not shorten your swing, slow it down" this is the mistake BEGINNERS make.

Yet there are a bunch of experts here talking about how they shorten their strokes when they do mini. Either there are different ways to do things, or some people are full of it with their expertise.
what experts?
we're just a bunch of guys and gals sharing what worked for us....
and i stayed at a holiday inn express.
 
I had the weirdest dream last night. Sharapova and Ostapenko were playing mini tennis ... and they absolutely sucked at it. @mad dog1 was yelling at them that they had no fundamentals. @nytennisaddict told mad dog ... "yeah, I knew they would suck at mini by watching them hit their groundies". @Curious suggested that they both just play mini for 3 weeks ... first get a good mini ... and then do MANY Mini. @Pete Player said he could teach them, but they would have to wait until he got off his bag of ice and the meds. @Bender was taking a picture of Sharapova's butt. @J011yroger was with Bender ... and waved a can of tennis balls at Sharapova. When she looked at him, he held the can near his crotch ... winked at her and gave her the thumbs up. She was quite disgusted. @ChaelAZ was on the top row sitting by himself with his shirt off, taking a selfie while he rubbed his nipples. @Shroud was there in a black hoodie ... not paying too much attention. He was muttering that women know nothing about tennis strings. He had wrapped ZX around the umpires chair, and was stretching that ZX like a mad man. @S&V-not_dead_yet screamed at them (between mad dog screams) ... QUIT LETTING THE BALL BOUNCE ... DUH!!! @FiReFTW was talking with nyta ... and he thought Sharapova had a chance to make 5.0 in 5 years. @StringSnapper and @Dragy were smugly high-fiving each other ... saying this is exactly what you get without wall time. @IowaGuy looked on with disgust ... and said Steffi could do this easy. A couple of ttw members were there ... all sitting together but away from the rest ... saying this is the kind of poor play one should expect because of vaccines. Some dude speaking Polish was trying to demonstrate 2hfh mini without any movement of feet. I did not understand him in my dream.

Dreams are so weird.

Nominated for "Hall of Fame Post, 2018".
 
Come on now, Can I not hangout with these cool guys even in a dream?

Oh Cr@p ... dream is one of those that repeats, and also a continuation. We are going to need recruits ... see if you are interested in these dream needs:

The Sharapova Ostapenko mini stinkfest is being held in LA. It's hot ... and this dream might go on forever. Someone needs to call @TenFanLA ASAP ... and see if he can come calm down his buddy @mad dog1 . The heat is adding to his anger. His face is turning red ... which is dangerous for a crazy rich Asian. Also ... we are going to need someone to go get a ton of sunblock for @ChaelAZ 's back and chest (yes, and nipples), for @nytennisaddict 's head, and well... any of that lily white skin Shroud leaves exposed. For me too ... but not clear if I am physically there. Speaking of Shroud ... we need a volunteer there also. He has been stretching that ZX since that last dream episode ... and he is starting to get ZX cramps ... someone needs to take some ZX stretching shifts. Another problem has cropped up. @Chas Tennis showed up and immediately started a heated argument with the umpire. He wants to roll the umpire chair out near Sharapova and Ostapenko so he can video their mini from the top. This is pissing off Shroud ... because as you remember, he has that damn ZX wrapped around the umpire chair and is not appreciating the distraction.

Morch ... you should know, if you volunteer for the sunblock task ... you also have to rub it on Chael's back. Any other parts will be between you and Chael.

Can a guy just get a good night's sleep?

Oh yeah ... @FiReFTW ... if they do lock me up in a padded cell, you can come visit and we will practice our serves against the padded wall. That would be frickin awesome.
 
Im sorry..i thought attainment of certain ntrp or utr ratings negated all opinions from those of lower tennis elite status.[emoji849]

ha, no. we are all rec players, which means we all suck (compared to pros who actually get paid to compete).

but I do look at ratings and rankings as a weighting system... so i’m more likely to take 5.0 advice over 3.0 advice.... but i’ve occasionally also come across 4.0s (ie older teaching pros,but played in college) that could teach the material than most some 5.5+.

but back to mini, i’ve had anyone convincingly explain to me why mini is stupid/not valuable... 100% of the time it’s “I can’t do it, so it’s stupid”.

makes sense if we are talking about time constraints and one does not want to spend time in 5min pre match warmup to do mini. but I find that for the folks that can’t do it, eventually they say something like “and it’s stupid”... to reveal the real reason they don’t do it.


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ha, no. we are all rec players, which means we all suck (compared to pros who actually get paid to compete).

but I do look at ratings and rankings as a weighting system... so i’m more likely to take 5.0 advice over 3.0 advice.... but i’ve occasionally also come across 4.0s (ie older teaching pros,but played in college) that could teach the material than most some 5.5+.

but back to mini, i’ve had anyone convincingly explain to me why mini is stupid/not valuable... 100% of the time it’s “I can’t do it, so it’s stupid”.

makes sense if we are talking about time constraints and one does not want to spend time in 5min pre match warmup to do mini. but I find that for the folks that can’t do it, eventually they say something like “and it’s stupid”... to reveal the real reason they don’t do it.


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"but back to mini, i’ve had anyone convincingly explain to me why mini is stupid/not valuable... 100% of the time it’s “I can’t do it, so it’s stupid”. "

You must have a hearing problem. I have told you repeatedly that I am magnificent at mini ... and it's stupid. :D I minied yesterday with that ex-college player I have mentioned. There is no other way to describe my mini skills other than magnificent. It was so easy it started to get boring ... so I added a twist for my entertainment. When the impulse hit me ... I would randomly just hit the ball down on my side and land it right inside opponents service line. All in rhythm ... thing of beauty ... one might say ... wait for it .... magnificent.

So now you have one ... no longer 100%.
 
ha, no. we are all rec players, which means we all suck (compared to pros who actually get paid to compete).

but I do look at ratings and rankings as a weighting system... so i’m more likely to take 5.0 advice over 3.0 advice.... but i’ve occasionally also come across 4.0s (ie older teaching pros,but played in college) that could teach the material than most some 5.5+.

but back to mini, i’ve had anyone convincingly explain to me why mini is stupid/not valuable... 100% of the time it’s “I can’t do it, so it’s stupid”.

makes sense if we are talking about time constraints and one does not want to spend time in 5min pre match warmup to do mini. but I find that for the folks that can’t do it, eventually they say something like “and it’s stupid”... to reveal the real reason they don’t do it.


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I just find the immediate assumption that someone who doesn't think something is good must suck at it is pretty hard to claim is accurate when you are talking about people on the internet. Again, it tends to belie the standard inclination of many, especially kids, to just tell people they suck..because it's the internet and that's what people do on the internet. They may think hamburgers suck but are excellent at flipping them, etc.
 
"but back to mini, i’ve had anyone convincingly explain to me why mini is stupid/not valuable... 100% of the time it’s “I can’t do it, so it’s stupid”. "

You must have a hearing problem. I have told you repeatedly that I am magnificent at mini ... and it's stupid. :D I minied yesterday with that ex-college player I have mentioned. There is no other way to describe my mini skills other than magnificent. It was so easy it started to get boring ... so I added a twist for my entertainment. When the impulse hit me ... I would randomly just hit the ball down on my side and land it right inside opponents service line. All in rhythm ... thing of beauty ... one might say ... wait for it .... magnificent.

So now you have one ... no longer 100%.

another drill we do is to setup a target like 3ft from the net 1ft from singles sideline and do cc mini.
first one to hit the target 3 times wins.
repeat for fh/bh side.


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another drill we do is to setup a target like 3ft from the net 1ft from singles sideline and do cc mini.
first one to hit the target 3 times wins.
repeat for fh/bh side.


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CC mini is a nice drill for altering court geometry perception apart from shot shaping. But it definitely gives longer court than square mini-T.
 
I just find the immediate assumption that someone who doesn't think something is good must suck at it is pretty hard to claim is accurate when you are talking about people on the internet. Again, it tends to belie the standard inclination of many, especially kids, to just tell people they suck..because it's the internet and that's what people do on the internet. They may think hamburgers suck but are excellent at flipping them, etc.

fair enough.

and for all you know i’m just a troll that can’t even spell tenys,... so you should tread cautiously :p

that and “free” advice from a nobody like me can’t be good.

in your lessons, what does your instructor say about mini?


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CC mini is a nice drill for altering court geometry perception apart from shot shaping. But it definitely gives longer court than square mini-T.

might be longer if you go sideT to sideT, but if you’re trying to hit a target 2-3ft from net, it’s waaay harder than just going down the middle.


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fair enough.

and for all you know i’m just a troll that can’t even spell tenys,... so you should tread cautiously [emoji14]

that and “free” advice from a nobody like me can’t be good.

in your lessons, what does your instructor say about mini?


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I've taken 4 lessons in my life...with 4 different instructors. None started with mini tennis. All started with leisurely baseline hitting. No one ever said i should work on mini tennis to improve. Every "3.5" i played in sectionals singles wanted to do mini as a warm up. Its something i will never do unless someone asks me to. I don't want to brag so I'll leave my performance against these mini gurus out of it.
 
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