Can't hit mini tennis forehand

ByeByePoly said:
"but back to mini, i’ve had anyone convincingly explain to me why mini is stupid/not valuable... 100% of the time it’s “I can’t do it, so it’s stupid”. "

You must have a hearing problem. I have told you repeatedly that I am magnificent at mini ... and it's stupid. :D I minied yesterday with that ex-college player I have mentioned. There is no other way to describe my mini skills other than magnificent. It was so easy it started to get boring ... so I added a twist for my entertainment. When the impulse hit me ... I would randomly just hit the ball down on my side and land it right inside opponents service line. All in rhythm ... thing of beauty ... one might say ... wait for it .... magnificent.

So now you have one ... no longer 100%.
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Wow. You had another dream? Were any TT members present in this dream to witness this magnificent mini tennis?
 
dman72 said:
I've taken 4 lessons in my life...with 4 different instructors. None started with mini tennis. All started with leisurely baseline hitting. No one ever said i should work on mini tennis to improve. Every "3.5" i played in sectionals singles wanted to do mini as a warm up. Its something i will never do unless someone asks me to. I don't want to brag so I'll leave my performance against these mini gurus out of it.
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you gotta do what works best for you... don't let us nobodies dictate how you want to to learn to play tennis. clearly you're someone who knows what they are doing.
 
nytennisaddict said:
another drill we do is to setup a target like 3ft from the net 1ft from singles sideline and do cc mini.
first one to hit the target 3 times wins.
repeat for fh/bh side.


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That actually sounds like a fun drill. When I still had my wheels, my buddies knew if they dropped shot near a side line ... it needed to be good because I was good at the sharp touch angle cc toward opposite sideline that barely cleared the net (particularly off FH side ... one of the few times I hit FH slice/open face). But this is an example of why I think "fundamentals/strokes" aren't a generic thing across players. We hit different shots (therefore different strokes) from different parts of the court. Also ... we all hit different shots from each other from different parts of the court. I don't hit spinny cc shots from inside the service line ... cc or otherwise. I might hit enough spin hitting from way below the net to keep a deeper shot from going long, but if I am hitting really short angles from close to the net it's touch angles. Some with a sw or western grip go to shot from there might very well be great rhs and dipper to same targets. Never been required for me on those "bad opponent droppers" ... the touch angle isn't something they can run down.

I think another example of where the idea "mini strokes are fundamentals for all players" breaks down is different styles from the baseline. That was the point of my dream. :cool: Take my FH ... I hit eastern, flattish ... can actually produce good topspin when I call it up (cc fh passing shot). So for me ... that is my "baseline fundamental" ... if I'm trying to use that fundamental in mini tennis. I don't hit spinny FHs from the baseline, so any mini or drill of "fh spinny" isn't a test of my stroke quality. For me to honor my baseline fundamentals in MY mini ... I need to hit flattish ... so lower over the net from those close quarters. Actually ... my fundamental often from there is a touch angle which has nothing to do with my full BL stroke. Bottom line is if you are grading mini by the ability to "hit spinny shots from point blank range", the 3.5 player that hits sw grip and every single shot spinny just over the net with no ability to hit small targets or flatten out a shot ... WILL LIKELY BE BETTER AT THAT SPINNY GRADE. Now take that 3.5 (sorry 3.5s ... I just needed a number to make my point) and change the grading. Let's do mini ... and the contest is when mini ... we can hit any shot, any touch, and angle, any dropper, any slice ... that spinny 3.5er grade went into the cr@pper. But the spinny 3.5ers come and say "you just can't do it". Nope ... I can hit a spinny FH in mini ... and do ... and then never once hit that from the baseline.

Ironically ... I love mini for the 2hbh. Not as a warm-up ... but I will drill my 2hbh anytime ... warm-up or otherwise. I hit a bigger topspin variety from the 2hbh ... flat drive all the way to off pace spinny. So when I do this "point blank spinny mini" ... in that case, it does match my baseline fundamentals. CC 2hbh mini drill ... sign me up ... I dropped the lhfhs ... I have time for a new drill ;)).

So hopefully this is an example of making the argument/debate on the merits. We are competitive tennis players ... and dudes ... we aren't going to agree on everything (who am I kidding ... we won't agree on anything).

IMO ... we don't all have the same tennis fundamentals. Fundamentals are defined by a player's shots from different locations in the court, grips, amount of spin from different situations and court locations, how much touch a player plays with, etc. I realize it would be an opportunity for a 3.5 spinny player to give my friend that hit dead flat on both wings and played 5.0 that his mini spinny was no good. But their fun would come to a quick end if they played him a set. :D

One other thought. For those that have never hit flattish ... we learn to control/vary rhs because we aren't relying on topspin to hit targets. I can hit that control FH (not bunt ... full swing but slower) just over the net and stay inside the opponents service line. That is how I play ... my FH fundamental ... so "spinny need not apply".
 
ByeByePoly said:
That actually sounds like a fun drill. When I still had my wheels, my buddies knew if they dropped shot near a side line ... it needed to be good because I was good at the sharp touch angle cc toward opposite sideline that barely cleared the net (particularly off FH side ... one of the few times I hit FH slice/open face). But this is an example of why I think "fundamentals/strokes" aren't a generic thing across players. We hit different shots (therefore different strokes) from different parts of the court. Also ... we all hit different shots from each other from different parts of the court. I don't hit spinny cc shots from inside the service line ... cc or otherwise. I might hit enough spin hitting from way below the net to keep a deeper shot from going long, but if I am hitting really short angles from close to the net it's touch angles. Some with a sw or western grip go to shot from there might very well be great rhs and dipper to same targets. Never been required for me on those "bad opponent droppers" ... the touch angle isn't something they can run down.

I think another example of where the idea "mini strokes are fundamentals for all players" breaks down is different styles from the baseline. That was the point of my dream. :cool: Take my FH ... I hit eastern, flattish ... can actually produce good topspin when I call it up (cc fh passing shot). So for me ... that is my "baseline fundamental" ... if I'm trying to use that fundamental in mini tennis. I don't hit spinny FHs from the baseline, so any mini or drill of "fh spinny" isn't a test of my stroke quality. For me to honor my baseline fundamentals in MY mini ... I need to hit flattish ... so lower over the net from those close quarters. Actually ... my fundamental often from there is a touch angle which has nothing to do with my full BL stroke. Bottom line is if you are grading mini by the ability to "hit spinny shots from point blank range", the 3.5 player that hits sw grip and every single shot spinny just over the net with no ability to hit small targets or flatten out a shot ... WILL LIKELY BE BETTER AT THAT SPINNY GRADE. Now take that 3.5 (sorry 3.5s ... I just needed a number to make my point) and change the grading. Let's do mini ... and the contest is when mini ... we can hit any shot, any touch, and angle, any dropper, any slice ... that spinny 3.5er grade went into the cr@pper. But the spinny 3.5ers come and say "you just can't do it". Nope ... I can hit a spinny FH in mini ... and do ... and then never once hit that from the baseline.

Ironically ... I love mini for the 2hbh. Not as a warm-up ... but I will drill my 2hbh anytime ... warm-up or otherwise. I hit a bigger topspin variety from the 2hbh ... flat drive all the way to off pace spinny. So when I do this "point blank spinny mini" ... in that case, it does match my baseline fundamentals. CC 2hbh mini drill ... sign me up ... I dropped the lhfhs ... I have time for a new drill ;)).

So hopefully this is an example of making the argument/debate on the merits. We are competitive tennis players ... and dudes ... we aren't going to agree on everything (who am I kidding ... we won't agree on anything).

IMO ... we don't all have the same tennis fundamentals. Fundamentals are defined by a player's shots from different locations in the court, grips, amount of spin from different situations and court locations, how much touch a player plays with, etc. I realize it would be an opportunity for a 3.5 spinny player to give my friend that hit dead flat on both wings and played 5.0 that his mini spinny was no good. But their fun would come to a quick end if they played him a set. :D

One other thought. For those that have never hit flattish ... we learn to control/vary rhs because we aren't relying on topspin to hit targets. I can hit that control FH (not bunt ... full swing but slower) just over the net and stay inside the opponents service line. That is how I play ... my FH fundamental ... so "spinny need not apply".
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mad dog1 said:
Or maybe he’s just someone who thinks he knows what he’s doing. ;)
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to be fair, i think i know what i'm doing all the time,.. but fortunately i surround myself with people better than me, and they help me realize, daily, that i don't always know what i'm doing.
 
A drill that emphasizes what mini tennis is trying to teach, that I've found especially beneficial, is starting at the service box like everyone does, rallying till you feel it's enough, then moving one step back, and rinse and repeat till you get to the baseline (of course it's not mini tennis at that point), and then come forward in again one step at a time til you get to the original mini tennis position. It takes a lot of time, and you have to find a partner who sees the benefit in this too and is willing to give up a day of hitting to just work on drills like you want to.

This is similar to a drill Tomasz has for the serve where he starts off just outside the service box and wants you to serve in the box and then move out one step at a time till you get back to the baseline.

Whenever I have found a partner willing to work with me on this, it's helped me a lot. OTOH, if I just do a normal mini tennis drill and then move back immediately to the baseline, I have not found the same benefits, as the muscle memory just is not enough for a lower level player like me, and I fall back much quicker into bad habits wrt not brushing up correctly on the ball.
 
nytennisaddict said:
to be fair, i think i know what i'm doing all the time,.. but fortunately i surround myself with people better than me, and they help me realize, daily, that i don't always know what i'm doing.
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Smart man. But you clearly have some self awareness which is something some people lack. If you thought you were the best, you’d have no one to surround yourself with. :)
 
nytennisaddict said:
you gotta do what works best for you... don't let us nobodies dictate how you want to to learn to play tennis. clearly you're someone who knows what they are doing.
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Well just going by what 5.0 instructors emphasize probably isn't a bad idea based on the apparent importance of utr ntrp hierarchy.
 
I find mini-tennis good warm up, cause I do other stick/club sports too. It sort of gets you familiar with the equipment and addjusted for tennis. Bounce and timing are a big factor, which gets stranded changing from sport to another on the fly.

In practice we allways start with basic mini-tennis for few minutes before moving into the back. Usually, if volleys are not on the agenda, we just rally mini-tennis for a couple rallies of 20 to 40 shots in the beginning.


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I am really confused now. If I am your opponent in a match, I definitely would be the first to ask, "lets just start the set".

ByeByePoly said:
I don't hit spinny cc shots from inside the service line
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ByeByePoly said:
I hit eastern, flattish ... can actually produce good topspin when I call it up (cc fh passing shot)
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ByeByePoly said:
For me to honor my baseline fundamentals in MY mini ... I need to hit flattish ... so lower over the net from those close quarters. Actually ... my fundamental often from there is a touch angle which has nothing to do with my full BL stroke
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EddieBrock said:
This is a bit embarrassing, but I have a lot of trouble with my forehand in mini tennis. Once I move back I can do pretty much anything with it and hit well on the run, can hit extremely hard, with angles, etc. Even while I'm playing if I get a short ball around the service line I can kill it or angle it off. For some reason though during the warm up I can't hit a mini tennis forehand to save my life.

If I try to hit it normal I hit it up high and it lands past the service line around no man's land. When I try to take something off it has nothing behind it and goes into the net or just past it. My 2 handed backhand is my weaker shot, but I can hit it in the mini tennis warm up with no problem. It sounds dumb, but it really hurts my confidence to start a match by missing so often in the warm up and I got put on a bad court in a clinic because the pro walking by thought I can't play when he saw my mini tennis forehand.

How are you supposed to hit just a nice rally ball back within the service line? All of my shots are too deep or too shallow
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Probably your western grip. Get rid of it!
 
rrortiz5 said:
Was someone talking about the big 4 not doing mini-tennis?

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Is that a match warm up or a practice session?

It's a practice session. The point I have been making all along (largely this part has been ignored conveniently by the "you suck"ers) was that I find WARMING UP with mini-tennis to have few benefits. Especially with limited time. That video shows a grand total of 25 seconds of mini tennis in a 14 minute practice session. So how much mini tennis makes sense in a 5-7 minute warm up? Like 10 seconds?
 
dman72 said:
Is that a match warm up or a practice session?

It's a practice session. The point I have been making all along (largely this part has been ignored conveniently by the "you suck"ers) was that I find WARMING UP with mini-tennis to have few benefits. Especially with limited time. That video shows a grand total of 25 seconds of mini tennis in a 14 minute practice session. So how much mini tennis makes sense in a 5-7 minute warm up? Like 10 seconds?
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When pros arrive at the court for a match, they have already stretched and warmed up for an hour or so prior to match. If you arrive at the court for a match and have already gone through an independent warm up, then yes, mini tennis isn’t the best use of the 5-7 minute warm up.
 
mad dog1 said:
When pros arrive at the court for a match, they have already stretched and warmed up for an hour or so prior to match. If you arrive at the court for a match and have already gone through an independent warm up, then yes, mini tennis isn’t the best use of the 5-7 minute warm up.
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So adults should only be hitting a ball back and forth 20-40 feet (short court) to warm up because their cold bodies can't handle hitting it 60-80 feet (full court). That 3 minutes of hitting the ball 40 fewer feet could be the difference between a catastrophic hamstring tear or forearm rupture and a healthy match. Better safe than sorry I guess.

At first I thought it was because it made you perform better stroke wise during the match,according to some people here.

My personal feeling is that I actually feel more warmed up when I've actually HIT the ball for 3 minutes, and not spent 3 minutes brushing it over the net trying to achieve maximum string scrape-age.
 
dman72 said:
So adults should only be hitting a ball back and forth 20-40 feet (short court) to warm up because their cold bodies can't handle hitting it 60-80 feet (full court). That 3 minutes of hitting the ball 40 fewer feet could be the difference between a catastrophic hamstring tear or forearm rupture and a healthy match. Better safe than sorry I guess.

At first I thought it was because it made you perform better stroke wise during the match,according to some people here.

My personal feeling is that I actually feel more warmed up when I've actually HIT the ball for 3 minutes, and not spent 3 minutes brushing it over the net trying to achieve maximum string scrape-age.
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A 10 minute debate here about mini tennis would be a better warm-up than actual mini tennis. :p We need some mini mini debate before we go full blood sport mini. Someone is going to get hurt ... I already have Kindle finger.
 
mcs1970 said:
A drill that emphasizes what mini tennis is trying to teach, that I've found especially beneficial, is starting at the service box like everyone does, rallying till you feel it's enough, then moving one step back, and rinse and repeat till you get to the baseline (of course it's not mini tennis at that point), and then come forward in again one step at a time til you get to the original mini tennis position. It takes a lot of time, and you have to find a partner who sees the benefit in this too and is willing to give up a day of hitting to just work on drills like you want to.

This is similar to a drill Tomasz has for the serve where he starts off just outside the service box and wants you to serve in the box and then move out one step at a time till you get back to the baseline.

Whenever I have found a partner willing to work with me on this, it's helped me a lot. OTOH, if I just do a normal mini tennis drill and then move back immediately to the baseline, I have not found the same benefits, as the muscle memory just is not enough for a lower level player like me, and I fall back much quicker into bad habits wrt not brushing up correctly on the ball.
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Yeah my coach used this Sunday with me, 2 distances for mini-tennis, then the baseline.
 
EddieBrock said:
This is a bit embarrassing, but I have a lot of trouble with my forehand in mini tennis. Once I move back I can do pretty much anything with it and hit well on the run, can hit extremely hard, with angles, etc. Even while I'm playing if I get a short ball around the service line I can kill it or angle it off. For some reason though during the warm up I can't hit a mini tennis forehand to save my life.

If I try to hit it normal I hit it up high and it lands past the service line around no man's land. When I try to take something off it has nothing behind it and goes into the net or just past it. My 2 handed backhand is my weaker shot, but I can hit it in the mini tennis warm up with no problem. It sounds dumb, but it really hurts my confidence to start a match by missing so often in the warm up and I got put on a bad court in a clinic because the pro walking by thought I can't play when he saw my mini tennis forehand.

How are you supposed to hit just a nice rally ball back within the service line? All of my shots are too deep or too shallow
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Hi Eddie, I’ve found your post cause I was searching for help about the same problem, and to be honest I was very happy, cause it’s really hard to explained that, and to look for help.
I’ve been playing tennis since i was kid, in my teenage time I used to compete etc, now I’m 40, and I still practice and play sometimes for fun, but from 3 years I’ve been having the exactly same problem in the mini tennis, it seems that i forgot how to hit a forehand in the mini tennis, I struggle a lot to find the pace, my movement is too tight, and consequently affects a lit my confidence, specially if I’m playing with somebody that I don’t know, it seems like I’m a begginer, it’s very frustrating and traumatizing, sometimes that happens too in the baseline, but it’s easy to fix the movement with more speed and power, but in the mini tennis I’m still struggling,
Id like to know if you manage to find a way to improve that, I really appreciate
Cause as i told you, that never happened before, and it’s been like 3 years that this starts and it’s really something I want to manage to fix
Thank you
Be safe!
 
Iamruddo said:
Hi Eddie, I’ve found your post cause I was searching for help about the same problem, and to be honest I was very happy, cause it’s really hard to explained that, and to look for help.
I’ve been playing tennis since i was kid, in my teenage time I used to compete etc, now I’m 40, and I still practice and play sometimes for fun, but from 3 years I’ve been having the exactly same problem in the mini tennis, it seems that i forgot how to hit a forehand in the mini tennis, I struggle a lot to find the pace, my movement is too tight, and consequently affects a lit my confidence, specially if I’m playing with somebody that I don’t know, it seems like I’m a begginer, it’s very frustrating and traumatizing, sometimes that happens too in the baseline, but it’s easy to fix the movement with more speed and power, but in the mini tennis I’m still struggling,
Id like to know if you manage to find a way to improve that, I really appreciate
Cause as i told you, that never happened before, and it’s been like 3 years that this starts and it’s really something I want to manage to fix
Thank you
Be safe!
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For mini-tennis you typically want a compact or short backswing — especially since many of the incoming balls will be bouncing just a meter or two in front of you. So it will often require that you employ a short takeback like you would for a half-volley (or other shots taken on the rise).

Even tho the takeback is compact, you should still employ a full follow-thru. The swingpath for you mini tennis shots should be fairly steep since you are trying to impart generous topspin w/o driving thru the ball too much (or too fast).

Most ppl find it easiest to start a couple of feet bit behind the service line rather than on the line or inside the line as Justine Henin is doing below.

It also helps to have you & your drill partner hit cooperative shots (rather than shots than land close to the service line) as seen in the 2nd vid.



 
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What is your fh grip?
Where do you play this mini tennis ( inside the service box, at the service line or behind it)?
High high bounce the incoming balls?
These cicumstances make it easier or difficoulter to play in the near of the net.
 
SystemicAnomaly said:
If you are dealing with a lot of low balls, an Eastern (or Conti) grip might be easier. If balls are higher, a SW grip should be ok
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You still helping spread the evil mini tennis? 8-B

Hope you are doing well. You might enjoy the fate this mini tennis hater has found in his tennis afterlife. Everyone warms up in pickleball dinking. :eek: 7ft jail cell instead of 20ft … entire pickleball court almost fits in tennis service boxes. I guess it’s my ttw mini tennis slamming karma.

A couple last mini tennis slams for nostalgia:

- At least in pickleball you actually dink in a game … in tennis you don’t mini tennis in a game EVER.

- Until there are mini tennis tournaments it’s just a circus act.

- if human inventions scale goes from fire and the wheel on one end, and jello on the other end, mini tennis is right next to jello.

That felt good … missed it … still got it.

OK … I will let myself out and return to wiffle hell.
 
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ByeByePoly said:
in tennis you don’t mini tennis in a game EVER.
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What? You’ve never seen a player run down a drop shot and hit sharply cross court within the serve lines? Or two guys try to win the point trading drop shots to opposite side net posts?
Also, unlike pickle ball, from the baseline you are taking full swings with heavier equipment while employing wrist extension. Nothing wrong with warming up.

To the people that have said they are struggling with fh in mini, SA did a good job explaining but I would add “very minimal shoulder rotation,” in case that wasn’t clear with compact backswing.
 
I have personally find myself able to gauge whether I'll be playing better that day or not by how well I hit and feel when I'm warning up with mini tennis. I'm not doing that tapping that video #2 said not to do. I'm doing the abbreviated swing with spin (more spin than I normally do in regular hitting). By how well I brush from both sides, I could usually tell whether it's going to be a good day or not for me.

There are many 4.5 players I hit with who could only tap or slice the balls during mini tennis. This usually happens with players who hit mostly flat balls. The point is, it's not easy to hit with almost full stroke and keep them in.

That first video by Henin. Wow! That's pretty fast RHS on mini tennis.
 
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ballmachineguy said:
What? You’ve never seen a player run down a drop shot and hit sharply cross court within the serve lines? Or two guys try to win the point trading drop shots to opposite side net posts?
Also, unlike pickle ball, from the baseline you are taking full swings with heavier equipment while employing wrist extension. Nothing wrong with warming up.

To the people that have said they are struggling with fh in mini, SA did a good job explaining but I would add “very minimal shoulder rotation,” in case that wasn’t clear with compact backswing.
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I’m sure the player that spends hours preparing for that one shot a summer beats the guy that spends that same amount of time on his groundstrokes. 8-B

But fair enough … I have so much “mini tennis sucks material“ it can’t all be top notch.

I have more material:

- mini sex practicing shortening strokes
- mini golf range with 50 yard targets for driver
- mini backing out of driveway (never actually make it to street)

I obviously miss this … and of course the tennis.
 
tennis4me said:
I have personally find myself able to gauge whether I'll be playing better that day or not by how well I hit and feel when I'm warning up with mini tennis. I'm not doing that tapping that video #2 said not to do. I'm doing the abbreviated swing with spin (more spin than I normally do in regular hitting). By how well I brush from both sides, I could usually tell whether it's going to be a good day or not for me.

There are many 4.5 players I hit with who could only tap or slice the balls during mini tennis. This usually happens with players who hit mostly flat balls. The point is, it's not easy to hit with almost full stroke and keep them in.

That first video by He in. Wow! That's pretty fast RHS on mini tennis.
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Do you beat all those flat ball hitting 4.5 players because they mini tennis suck?

Hope so … they so deserve it. 8-B

I just watched a video of Steffi Graf hitting forehands … hard to tell where the brushing up ends and the bashing starts.

In mini tennis sw grip rec players with windshield wiper follow throughs often shine in the mini brushing pre-match ceremony. They don’t always beat the eastern grip flat hitters they laughed at in warmup. Same goes for coached strokes wearing their brand new Agassi gear. OK … that last part was unnecessary and dated me to a different era of rec tennis singles tournaments (that era wasn’t infected with the mini tennis virus and somehow we all warmed up fine).

Sorry … after 18 months of wiffle I needed a tennis-adjacent mini tennis bashing fix. Also … didn’t seek it out … ttw alert.
 
ballmachineguy said:
What? You’ve never seen a player run down a drop shot and hit sharply cross court within the serve lines? Or two guys try to win the point trading drop shots to opposite side net posts?
Also, unlike pickle ball, from the baseline you are taking full swings with heavier equipment while employing wrist extension. Nothing wrong with warming up.

To the people that have said they are struggling with fh in mini, SA did a good job explaining but I would add “very minimal shoulder rotation,” in case that wasn’t clear with compact backswing.
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I was serve and volley tournament singles player … dropped and angled volley over the net constantly … 20-30 years before mini tennis existed. (when did it show up … and who invented it?). The shots and touch of those shots that came up in match play for me had very little to do with baseline technique/mechanics (or lack of 8-B ). Touch shots right off the bounce … arm and hand skills.

Most of the mini tennis discussion here (ttw) has been about full baseline stroke mechanics (modern fh) abbreviated and yet full. The thinking is this mini tennis abbreviated drill (it’s not a warmup imo … but a drill) displays if you have proper mechanics/technique. I think the fallacy has always been lumping in all fh technique as equal mini measuring. For example … I can grab a racket with sw grip, and windshield wiper with arm rotation, and make the mini brushing purest mini happy. But I don’t hit forehands like that … weak eastern … some racket lag … not full on windshield follow through. So for my fh, mini was not much of a test of my brushing mechanics … it’s a test of bunting … not very useful because already had touch. Ironically … when I added 2hbh, I drop the racket head and rotate. There it was … easy mini brushing … actually a useful 2hbh drill but still not a good use of limited warmup time.

Here is some irony … I now rotate my arm more on two pickleball forehands shots than I ever did in tennis. One is a topspin lob from baseline … tight dimensions, no strings, less rpm … use all that dropped paddle head arm rotation I can get. Other shot is fh speedups from below net … need that added topspin to keep from sailing long.
 
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ByeByePoly said:
Do you beat all those flat ball hitting 4.5 players because they mini tennis suck?

Hope so … they so deserve it. 8-B

I just watched a video of Steffi Graf hitting forehands … hard to tell where the brushing up ends and the bashing starts.

In mini tennis sw grip rec players with windshield wiper follow throughs often shine in the mini brushing pre-match ceremony. They don’t always beat the eastern grip flat hitters they laughed at in warmup. Same goes for coached strokes wearing their brand new Agassi gear. OK … that last part was unnecessary and dated me to a different era of rec tennis singles tournaments (that era wasn’t infected with the mini tennis virus and somehow we all warmed up fine).

Sorry … after 18 months of wiffle I needed a tennis-adjacent mini tennis bashing fix. Also … didn’t seek it out … ttw alert.
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Heh - I myself hit mostly flat, but can spin when I need to. To each their own. Everyone is different. Some see no benefits to mini tennis, some do. Some can't do 5 seconds of mini tennis but will beat the **** of the guy who hits perfect mini tennis. If mini tennis warm ups helps one's game play, then by all means do it. If one doesn't see the benefit, then skip it. Whatever works for the individual player.

Just think of it as your transition to Pickle ball - yeah, later. :p
 
J011yroger said:
If you can't hit a ball from anywhere to anywhere your game isn't fine tuned to a specific mode of play, it sucks.

J
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out of tune in mini court's called 'narrowband syndrome' lololololol no wonder tennis got pickled worldwide nowadays........
'anywhere to anywhere'd make most so called 'tennis players' think out of box n might save their tennis from painful salty/sour pickling lololololololol:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D..........
 
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SystemicAnomaly said:
Naomi Osaka still has her hair:

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we'v bn mini-ing for quite long time b4 full court hitting but not full frontal t-t mini instead diagonal mini sideline corners ie fh cross n bh cross w/ fullblown top spin. gr8 warm process n also practical as well as everynow/then ppl having short returns n ur muscle mem's very happy to hit corss mini topsin sideline8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B..........
 
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