Carlos Alcaraz is using a stock Pure aero vs

staryugi

staryugi

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According to Jonas from Tennisnerd who've talked to a friend of Carlos Alcaraz this week, Carlos Alcaraz is actually using a stock Pure aero vs with an unstrung specs of:

Weight: 305g
Balance: 317mm
Swing weight: 293

The mystery is finally solved, and it's very interesting to see a Pro player at this level playing with a stock tennis racquet, i tried the pure aero vs, and it's really really a very solid racquet, i think i am gonna make the switch ( i am an advanced agressive ex pro staff and ex blade 18x20 player ). so i'll repost Jonas's question here, will using heavy and unforgiving racquets be a thing of the past in a near future?
 
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staryugi

staryugi

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bluetrain4 said:
Seems entirely too light to counter pro shots, but I guess if he has enough racquet head speed. Are we sure about this?
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i play at a high level and i was able to counter heavy spinny balls with the pure aero vs, i played with alot of racquets without customization like the vcore 95 and ezone 98 and other racquets at the same weight and it felt impossible to do it without customization! but maybe it depends on the player and the technique too!
 
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Pekoms

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HeavyHitter said:
I'm the "guy" that gave the specs to Jonas initially. I got the specs from @Babolat Official here on the forums. Looks like Jonas double confirmed from Carlito's friend as well. Shows you that you don't need to be obsessing about pro's specs so much. I've been playing with the VS since Jan and its an amazing frame.
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With what string and tension ? btw :D
 
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KYHacker

Professional
I’m not all that skeptical. Those specs are almost identical to what Iga plays with. I think works out to roughly 327-330 sw based on gauge of string, and so that’s in the right ballpark. Would be interesting to know the twistweight on his frame. I’ll bet it’s close to 16. I suspect his swingweight will go higher in the next 1-2 years as he starts facing folks like Thiem and Sinner who both hit real bongs with consistency. I’ll also bet he adds 5-10g of static weight over time. But those seem to be the low end of what you need on the pro level these days.
 
OnyxZ28

OnyxZ28

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Bonjour from Babolat: Part Trois

Is it confirmed that the new Pure Aero and Pure Aero vs will arrive this summer ? Hi Pekoms, There will be a new Pure Aero later this year. I have not heard anything regarding a new Pure Aero VS though. Josh
tt.tennis-warehouse.com tt.tennis-warehouse.com

Babolat Official said:
Hi Heavy,

Here are Carlos's unstrung specs, and they are remarkably unremarkable!

Pure Aero VS, grip 4 (4 ½) with RPM Blast 130 (don't know tension)

Weight: 305g

Balance: 317mm

Swing weight: 293

Josh
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pico

pico

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HeavyHitter said:
I'm the "guy" that gave the specs to Jonas initially. I got the specs from @Babolat Official here on the forums. Looks like Jonas double confirmed from Carlito's friend as well. Shows you that you don't need to be obsessing about pro's specs so much. I've been playing with the VS since Jan and its an amazing frame.
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any customisation? how is the backhand slice on it?
 
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Oldbaby

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ewiewp said:
These lighter head light frames works.
You just have to swing faster(than with heavier one). Otherwise it would become a drop shot. ;)
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I have wondered about this with the normal insistence on heavier racquets and more and more younger players using lighter ones. Watching Rune in Munich about week ago, too, felt again as if there are more and more examples of players outhitting with lighter racquets.

Within a WTA context, at the 2020 Roland Garros Iga was hitting faster ball speeds and more spin than the rest of the field with one of the lightest (known) racquets in the tournament. According to the TV graphic anyway, by the end of that tournament only Thiem was hitting a faster or spinnier ball on average at the point it crossed the net.

If Force = Mass x Velocity, if you have less mass you will need more velocity/RHS.

Personally, I find the ball harder to time if swing super fast

As for this evidence about Carlos' racquet being "anecdotal," I'm not really sure that's the right distinction. As opposed to a scientific study to determine his racquet specs?

Main problem with anecdotes is that they are not systematic and (besides often unverifiable) could represent a minor pocket rather than the larger pattern. That doesn't apply in the same way if the n=1 anyway (assuming the racquets are all the same).

If you asked him his specs and he told you, that's an anecdote, too - although a really good one. I think one just wants a first-hand anecdote (stringer, Carlos, maybe Juan-Carlos - someone with direct, personal experience of his racquet and the expertise to know) rather than second.
 
staryugi

staryugi

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longtimelurker said:
New user.. hmmmmmm promoting talltennisnerd ? Lol

He gets most of his info from here. End of discussion
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You must be very bad at tennis by giving too much importance to rackets and complicate things, even carlos doesn't care and plays with a normal stock one !
 
jsm1373

jsm1373

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staryugi said:
No it's an L4, it's confirmed !
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With all due respect, confirmed from where? I read a couple of the other threads but only saw tennisnerd and “one of his friends“. Not arguing just want to confirm before I buy one, thanks in advance
 
lidoazndiabloboi

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jsm1373 said:
With all due respect, confirmed from where? I read a couple of the other threads but only saw tennisnerd and “one of his friends“. Not arguing just want to confirm before I buy one, thanks in advance
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20211111_Babolat_Alcaraz_1.jpg

Photo from www.supertennis.tv
 
staryugi

staryugi

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jsm1373 said:
With all due respect, confirmed from where? I read a couple of the other threads but only saw tennisnerd and “one of his friends“. Not arguing just want to confirm before I buy one, thanks in advance
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Yes one of Alcaraz's friends confirmed the information to Jonas, if you don't believe in this kind of informations from a credible guy like Jonas, I don't know what this Forum would be for, normally all the informations here must be wrong unless you try by yourself the player's racket and that you measure the characteristics with your machines. Jonas was at Nadal's academy last week and he was able to get a lot of informations.
 
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slipgrip93

Professional
TW specs listed when strung.

Strung Weight:11.3oz / 320g
Balance: 12.75in / 32.39cm / 6 pts HL
Swingweight: 321
Stiffness: 67

And some reviews claim it "plays" heavier than listed. So maybe not so much of a too light tweener.
 
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staryugi

staryugi

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slipgrip93 said:
TW specs listed when strung.

Strung Weight:11.3oz / 320g
Balance: 12.75in / 32.39cm / 6 pts HL
Swingweight: 321
Stiffness: 67

And some reviews claim it "plays" heavier than listed. So maybe not so much of a light tweener.
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it doesn't feel light at all, it feels very solid, i am a pro staff player and i hate light and hollow racquets, the pure aero vs feels very solid!
 
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ewiewp

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Oldbaby said:
I have wondered about this with the normal insistence on heavier racquets and more and more younger players using lighter ones. Watching Rune in Munich about week ago, too, felt again as if there are more and more examples of players outhitting with lighter racquets.

Within a WTA context, at the 2020 Roland Garros Iga was hitting faster ball speeds and more spin than the rest of the field with one of the lightest (known) racquets in the tournament. According to the TV graphic anyway, by the end of that tournament only Thiem was hitting a faster or spinnier ball on average at the point it crossed the net.

If Force = Mass x Velocity, if you have less mass you will need more velocity/RHS.

Personally, I find the ball harder to time if swing super fast

As for this evidence about Carlos' racquet being "anecdotal," I'm not really sure that's the right distinction. As opposed to a scientific study to determine his racquet specs?

Main problem with anecdotes is that they are not systematic and (besides often unverifiable) could represent a minor pocket rather than the larger pattern. That doesn't apply in the same way if the n=1 anyway (assuming the racquets are all the same).

If you asked him his specs and he told you, that's an anecdote, too - although a really good one. I think one just wants a first-hand anecdote (stringer, Carlos, maybe Juan-Carlos - someone with direct, personal experience of his racquet and the expertise to know) rather than second.
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I only experimented with lighter head light frame for only 3 months but very surprised it works fine.
I think it works better with modern horizontal swing. Much less effect from low to high classic swing with pendulum effect.
 
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