jmacdaununder2
Legend
Spend some time playing with heavy/old balls on clay in a country with relatively mild enough winters to be outdoors & see what happens to your sw preferences.
Carlos Alcaraz is using a stock Pure aero vs
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I had wrist injury before, and after that I raised my SW from 320 to 330. The added weight really handles the pace and heaviness from my opponents' shots. For me when I play local tournaments against those 5.0+ players, it was really hard to handle their serves and forehands if I uses light rackets with low 320 SW (especially college players and I'm not even talking about D1 Varsities). So I really doubt that any pro can use any rackets with SW under 330 on the tour...
TysonMcMuffin
Rookie
Saw this interview with who I assume is @uk_skippy . At 7:15 he implies that carlos’ racquet setup is one that “probably wouldn’t work for you”. This likely means he isn’t using the rumoured ~325 sw.Video
HitMoreBHs
Professional
Of course it wouldn’t work for us. All TTWers worth their salt aren’t able to play with swingweights under 340. Too unstable, not enough plow, not manly enough etc.
Sander001
Hall of Fame
Not if you really wanted to find out. Nadal's specs have been posted here going back 16 years ago
pico
Hall of Fame
What was the cross?
Not dgoran, obviously. I did luxilon gut 1.25 and 1.25 alu round. Should have been 52/50, but had a couple beers and ended up 52/52 unintentionally, lol.
That said, WOW. Monstrous spin and power. Balls land in even with gut at 52. I’m liking my accident and almost don’t want to see what 52/50 feels like given I liked it so much. I thought gut/poly would be a waste but did it anyway as that is what I normally use in most frames.
I’m four hours into both the frame and strings. This frame is nuts. You need to be able to swing fast, semi north/south is all you need in my opinion to get the full effect. Never really liked Babo except for the OG APD but good lord…I liked my first 4 hours a lot.
I completely see how “the kid” is hitting 100mph forehands. The frame has it, you need to give it the juice.
pico
Hall of Fame
I hear you. I have mine strung with BHS7T 1.30mm on mains at 56 and Signum Hextreme 1.30mm on cross at 53. The crush factor is addictive. I ordered Babolat natural gut 1.30mm and was wondering what to cross it with. I might use my go to Signum Hextreme.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
I’m convinced half the pro player gear heads are flat earthers.
Show me they’re not, with video evidence and an RDC machine and I’ll claim AI generated videos, ilerminaty-tampered RDC / counterfeit Alcaraz frame, or all of them at the same time. Why? Because my mind doesn’t believe it. Everyone else is duped including people who have had access to his alleged frames, but not me.
dgoran
Hall of Fame
Sorry don’t remember what it was either Alu or rpm maybe
Don't remember the details, but I remember a story about Sampras and the "W" stencil on his strings, he asked Nate Fergunson to do the stencil with one layer of paint only, of course the "W" faded very fast so Wilson asked him to do do it with two layers, thinking Sampras didn't notice but oddly (or not...) he did.
He returned all racquets with a warning - I'm the one who pays you, don't do it again, or you're out.
How sensitive a player has to be to notice the difference, that thing is painted with a marker, the ink must weight next to nothing
He returned all racquets with a warning - I'm the one who pays you, don't do it again, or you're out.
How sensitive a player has to be to notice the difference, that thing is painted with a marker, the ink must weight next to nothing
mtommer
Hall of Fame
I wouldn't assume it was a weight issue. That said, many athletes are superstitious...
That could be the case if knew previously Nate did it with two layers.
But no. Somehow he just felt it, and that's what amazes me
nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
When he finally comes to his senses and switches to the prestige classic 2.0 Babolat’s pro team is gonna have to get creative and paint that thing black and yellow
Lambsscroll
Hall of Fame
Well, I strung up one of my rackets and with a overgrip and strung with a 16g poly string the weight is 229.49 grams and the balance is the same as the photo from HeavyHitter. I actually have that balance beam at home. I also have the DUNLOP swing weight machine and reading came out to 318. Keep in mind the racket that I have is the Pure Aero VS.Holy cow! I didn't check the boards for few days and got some hurt feelings
I’ll post the pics tomorrow, just easier to do it on pc instead of my phone.
Measured specs - 330g 32.2cm L4 with og
So the confirmed spec I got from babolat which was unstrung is def correct. Balance could be off by .1mm but the swing weight could be matching.
The person that has it was ultra protective of the frame so I couldn’t take it for swingweight measurement but I’m guessing 325~ ish. My modded VS is 331g 32.7cm 333sw. So I’ve measured 6 VS Aeros frames so far and I can tell you the quality control is really good all 6 were within 5g or less. So I can tell you by the 6 frames that it is possible to get a stock frame at this spec but it’ll be by pure chance. No silicone in the handle or lead under the head bumper. He grips the over grip really tight so the grip didn’t feel that big. Ive transitioned from a L4 to L2 over the years, kind of makes me curious to try it out again with new tech.
cheers!
almost forgot Rpm blast 1.30mm 25k/23kg
Here you go!
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
“Softer” ?
bobeeto
Hall of Fame
Perhaps he’s got a few varying layups in the bag, considering his arm issues of late.
GodlessEndeavor
Professional
I hardly think "softer" refers to the string tension, since the tension is written explicitly.
So it's either softer strings or racquet most likely.
So it's either softer strings or racquet most likely.
lidoazndiabloboi
Hall of Fame
I think it refers to when it was strung
4/30 or 30.4 how its written in EU
lidoazndiabloboi
Hall of Fame
It would make sense that "Softer" would mean a softer layup racket. Unless Babolat decided to make him a new string to test, but I would think that is unlikely for such a big tournament.
Yes, that makes sense, thank you!
GodlessEndeavor
Professional
True. I would say most likely a softer racquet, with a small chance that it refers to string tension despite the redundancy of having 25/23 explicit.
Perhaps a bigger grip size can help with drop shot feels and stability.
Would not surprise me if he’s using a softer layup than retail.
I’ve been messing around with APD 100 pro stock, no cortex. It plays perceivably softer than my APD original and much softer than any generation PA. It’s an interesting frame.
I feel like I lose a hair of spin generation compared to the PA’s. On the other side, the directional control, touch and pocketing are muc better than any retail APD OR PA I’ve ever tried. Also, super comfortable with a full bed of Toroline Poly after a bout of golfer’s elbow a few month back.
Point is, soft could refer to frame or strings as I know they make soft layups the retail market doesn’t see.
I’ve been messing around with APD 100 pro stock, no cortex. It plays perceivably softer than my APD original and much softer than any generation PA. It’s an interesting frame.
I feel like I lose a hair of spin generation compared to the PA’s. On the other side, the directional control, touch and pocketing are muc better than any retail APD OR PA I’ve ever tried. Also, super comfortable with a full bed of Toroline Poly after a bout of golfer’s elbow a few month back.
Point is, soft could refer to frame or strings as I know they make soft layups the retail market doesn’t see.
If he's using a light spec, I doubt his racket has a low RA. Haven't seen many pros with 62 RA and 320 SW. Really low RA frames only appeal to rec players.
GodlessEndeavor
Professional
It's unclear whether he's still using an unmodified Aero VS. They apparently have made it softer, who knows if they added weight too.
Yeah, but until further info it stands what we know. I hope the racket engineers from this forum will uncover the latest truth on this topic very soon and tennis nerd will make a video about it.
GodlessEndeavor
Professional
We already have further info. They're almost certainly tweaking his racket as per the picture above. So the previous info we had doesn't really count anymore in my opinion.
I agree it would be good to have absolute certainty and more detailed info about what changes they did to his setup...
His racket isn't that "light" it's around ~330g strung and ~330 SW. Plus the Pure Aero VS is a 98 head size with a very high twistweight in stock form. It's actually a very similiar spec to what Swiatek uses, however Swiatek is less HL (like around 2-3 pts)
The average SW on the ATP is 350, this is taking into account extended frames, if you removed all the extended frames I think the SW average on the ATP would actually be closer to 335-340. I wonder if someone could compile a list of just the standard length frames and find the averages.
marceloriosfan
Rookie
reports that he recently switched to RPM Team (which is supposed to be a softer string)... maybe that is it?
I'm waiting for tennis nerd to clarify that in his next video.
Then you'll be waiting for someone here to post something for which he can rip and commercialize.
TysonMcMuffin
Rookie
Jonas covered it this morning.. source are pics from a japanese babolat dude (vamoswatanabe) who was at the wimbledon babolat event they did. Looks legit.
wingedeagle
Rookie
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
Eravauttennis
New User
Carlos Alcaraz | Tennis Warehouse
www.tennis-warehouse.com
Apparently, he is using RPM team currently.
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