Carlos Alcaraz is using a stock Pure aero vs

[yessir]

Heavy racquets are used by.....people that have been using heavy racquets all their life. Thats about it. Also I saw a video where an Atp 650 found the Pure strike tour 320g....heavy. I guess you guys , that think weight is a must , have no clue.

 

[moon shot]

If you mosey over to TWE they list unstrung as well for balance and weight.

Strung Weight:	320g / 11,3oz
Unstrung Weight:	305g/10,8oz
Balance:	32,39cm / 6 pts HL
Unstrung Balance:	31,5cm/9 pts HL
Swingweight:	321

 

[Shaolin]

Anyone know what the tension is?

 

[staryugi]

Anyone know what the tension is?

25-24, and sometimes 25-23 (kg)

 

[Shaolin]

25-24, and sometimes 25-23 (kg)

Thank you

 

[danbrenner]

Here are Carlos's unstrung specs, and they are remarkably unremarkable!

Pure Aero VS, grip 4 (4 ½) with RPM Blast 130 (don't know tension)

Weight: 305g

Balance: 317mm

Swing weight: 293

Josh

So if these are his acutal stick specs unstrung. what would be his specs strung? weight bal and sw? thanks in advance
i just ordered one so id love to know where Carlos specs are strung.

 

[longtimelurker]

325gr 318sw 32.7 balance give or take

 

[lidoazndiabloboi]

Here are Carlos's unstrung specs, and they are remarkably unremarkable!

Pure Aero VS, grip 4 (4 ½) with RPM Blast 130 (don't know tension)

Weight: 305g

Balance: 317mm

Swing weight: 293

Josh

So if these are his acutal stick specs unstrung. what would be his specs strung? weight bal and sw? thanks in advance
i just ordered one so id love to know where Carlos specs are strung.

This is an approximate spec, strung with overgrip.
W: 328g
B: 3.23 cm
SW: 325

 

[danbrenner]

This is an approximate spec, strung with overgrip.
W: 328g
B: 3.23 cm
SW: 325

awesome thanks brotha

 

[danbrenner]

This is an approximate spec, strung with overgrip.
W: 328g
B: 3.23 cm
SW: 325

so you thing as far as points head light. hes a 6?

 

[lidoazndiabloboi]

so you thing as far as points head light. hes a 6?

Yes looks like it

 

[danbrenner]

so doesn anyone also know if he uses some lead tape /?? how much and where. ? cause it would seem he beefs this up a little bit. im guessing in the handle. being that his strung bal is about 6pts.

 

[staryugi]

so doesn anyone also know if he uses some lead tape /?? how much and where. ? cause it would seem he beefs this up a little bit. im guessing in the handle. being that his strung bal is about 6pts.

when we say unstrung spec 305 gr it means that it's the stock racquet whiteout lead tape

 

[McEncock]

16g RPM blast adds 39 SW points to my Boom Pro (98 sq inch / 16x19)

It's safe to imagine that it could add 40 SW points in a 16x20 pattern

So Carlito's strung SW could be 333!

 

[lidoazndiabloboi]

16g RPM blast adds 39 SW points to my Boom Pro (98 sq inch / 16x19)

It's safe to imagine that it could add 40 SW points in a 16x20 pattern

So Carlito's strung SW could be 333!

39 seems a little too high. What method are you using for calculating SW? I gotten 34 on before, but in this case I calculated with 32.

 

[McEncock]

I own a RDC machine =)

 

[Wheelz]

16g RPM blast adds 39 SW points to my Boom Pro (98 sq inch / 16x19)

It's safe to imagine that it could add 40 SW points in a 16x20 pattern

So Carlito's strung SW could be 333!

Thank you. That’s what I’ve been saying in other thread but I was just assuming based on 1.25 weight. The 1.25 is already heavy. 16x20. It adds up. Seems like average wise a lot of the young guys fall into the 330-340 space

 

[mad dog1]

16g RPM blast adds 39 SW points to my Boom Pro (98 sq inch / 16x19)

It's safe to imagine that it could add 40 SW points in a 16x20 pattern

So Carlito's strung SW could be 333!

39 seems a little too high. What method are you using for calculating SW? I gotten 34 on before, but in this case I calculated with 32.

I have the racquet…I have the string…I have a Briffidi…I will find out exactly how much 1.30 RPM blast adds to the SW on the next string job!

 

[jmacdaununder2]

I own a RDC machine =)

Nice virtual mike drop!

 

[mad dog1]

I own a RDC machine =)

Lido does as well! =)

 

[jmacdaununder2]

 

[fox]

I'm the "guy" that gave the specs to Jonas initially. I got the specs from @Babolat Official here on the forums. Looks like Jonas double confirmed from Carlito's friend as well. Shows you that you don't need to be obsessing about pro's specs so much. I've been playing with the VS since Jan and its an amazing frame.

All TennisNerd career is based on copy paste from here so

 

[HitMoreBHs]

All TennisNerd career is based on copy paste from here so

He’s trying very hard to change this impression by taking great pains to highlight information he gets via Patreon, Insta, stringers etc. He rarely mentions TTW, but we all know he still comes here for lots of his info and topic ideas.

 

[om panda]

Interesting that Carlitos use grip 4 1/2

 

[ryohazuki222]

Interesting that Carlitos use grip 4 1/2

Finally I see someone mention it. Super interesting. Maybe he has massive hands, but you’d think something smaller given his height.

 

[ls206]

He may have big hands, but his forehand and serve technique is clean and simple without any superfluous racquet manipulation. This means he doesn’t need the same flexibility in his wrist as say Nadal or even Federer that would be gained from a smaller grip size. IMO of course

 

[Siewi]

In the same way that high weight/SW is often overrated in this forum, imagining that a light, stiff tweener with a full bed of tight poly is the way to go for every rec player is also misguided.

 

[Jouke]

Interesting that Carlitos use grip 4 1/2

Well he is a big guy, no? (At least according to the ATP website )

 

[om panda]

Hey may have big hands, but his forehand and serve technique is clean and simple without any superfluous racquet manipulation. This means he doesn’t need the same flexibility in his wrist as say Nadal or even Federer that would be gained from a smaller grip size. IMO of course

Yes, that grip size might as well tell some stories about his technique and how he swung his racket. Bigger grip lead to steadier hand but less wrist snap.

Anyway, grip size doesn't depend on height. I am 174cm but need to use 4 1/2 grip with 1 thin og.

 

[Djokovicfan]

Yes, that grip size might as well tell some stories about his technique and how he swung his racket. Bigger grip lead to steadier hand but less wrist snap.

Anyway, grip size doesn't depend on height. I am 174cm but need to use 4 1/2 grip with 1 thin og.

I use 4 1/4 with like 4 or 5 cushy overgrips. I call it the ron jeremy.

 

[om panda]

I use 4 1/4 with like 4 or 5 cushy overgrips. I call it the ron jeremy.

Thats preference, looks like you like it thick, soft, and bit bouncy. While i like it a bit firm. Both still feels nice on hand.

 

[iceman_dl6]

Yes, that grip size might as well tell some stories about his technique and how he swung his racket. Bigger grip lead to steadier hand but less wrist snap.

Anyway, grip size doesn't depend on height. I am 174cm but need to use 4 1/2 grip with 1 thin og.

Same here, 4 1/2 grip with leather and 1 og. As a former 4 3/8 user, the larger grip helps with my volleys. For Alcaraz, his 4 1/2 grip size makes sense as he is capable of playing an all-court game.

 

[KYHacker]

Larger grip has more to do with where his fingers land on the bevels than wrist snap. Smaller=more wrist snap is mostly myth. What smaller usually really equals is a slightly more western grip. How Eastern v. Semi-Western v. Western determines the mechanics not the grip size.

 

[slipgrip93]

Twistweight for the Pure Aero VS , at least the prior reported models is a bit above average at 14.6
(TWU twistweight listing)
(Fed's old k90 tw at 12.51, then RF97 v13 at 13.97; Del Potro's k61 95 tw at 12.9 ; )

So the PA vs' swingweight (unstrung?) reported at 321 if added to strung , combined with the 14.6 twistweight could lead to a decent plow combo. And the possibility of unseen weight tape under the top bumper guard, or in the handle.

 

[MRfStop]

No place or time for stupid comments here, let serious people discuss it, get out of here!

 

[MRfStop]

Am i the only one who thinks Tennisnerd is amazingly overrated, average knowledge, attention seeking to say the least... just too much out there for just basic tw board knowledge.. my opinion..

ELLO TEYNESNUHRDS!

No you're not the only one...but there are dozens of us.

 

[Turbo-87]

With all due respect, confirmed from where? I read a couple of the other threads but only saw tennisnerd and “one of his friends“. Not arguing just want to confirm before I buy one, thanks in advance

Wait, your decision is based on what he uses for a grip size and not what actually fits your own hand?

 

[slipgrip93]

Same here, 4 1/2 grip with leather and 1 og. As a former 4 3/8 user, the larger grip helps with my volleys. For Alcaraz, his 4 1/2 grip size makes sense as he is capable of playing an all-court game.

Larger grip has more to do with where his fingers land on the bevels than wrist snap. Smaller=more wrist snap is mostly myth. What smaller usually really equals is a slightly more western grip. How Eastern v. Semi-Western v. Western determines the mechanics not the grip size.

This video, interestingly, mentions Rafa' smaller grip size compared to Djokovic's larger 4 1/2 grip size:
( "Rafa's grip size" & comparing Djokovic's twistweight and swingweight )

 

[y0035215]

I have to ask a stupid question.

Alcaraz does not use a basic grip tape. The VS should then weigh around 290 g stock form unstrung, at least mine did ...!?

I find this very confusing when we talk about 305 g unstrung and there ist no grip tape.

 

[HeavyHitter]

I have to ask a stupid question.

Alcaraz does not use a basic grip tape. The VS should then weigh around 290 g stock form unstrung, at least mine did ...!?

I find this very confusing when we talk about 305 g unstrung and there ist no grip tape.

Whats a grip tape?? Unstrung spec posted is without any strings and without an overgrip. We don't know for sure if its completely stock or slightly modified. I have 4 VS frames and they were all under 305g. My friend got 2 VS frames that were 308g from the factory. There can be some variances from the factory, this happens with all brands.

 

[y0035215]

Thanks for the clarification. I was a little unclean in my wording and I probably made the wrong assumption that Alcaraz plays exclusively with overgrip without the Bab Syntec Pro
Grip. Which would also mean less weight.

 

[KYHacker]

Twistweight for the Pure Aero VS , at least the prior reported models is a bit above average at 14.6
(TWU twistweight listing)
(Fed's old k90 tw at 12.51, then RF97 v13 at 13.97; Del Potro's k61 95 tw at 12.9 ; )

So the PA vs' swingweight (unstrung?) reported at 321 if added to strung , combined with the 14.6 twistweight could lead to a decent plow combo. And the possibility of unseen weight tape under the top bumper guard, or in the handle.

There's a thread on the Iga racquet, too which has similar specs. I'm currently playing with the Iga, and mine are slightly overspec (305g unstrung) but the other specs are spot on for what she is supposed to actually be using (299-300 SW unstrung). The Iga frame has a twistweight of 14.9. 330SW and 14.9 TW make for very good plow and a lot of stability. Just from a feel perspective, the Iga frame I have has similar stability to my RF97A's but is much easier to accelerate. Comfort is a little better than the RF97A as well. I had a similar experience with the Pure Strike 16x19 that I tried. I haven't tried the Pure Aero VS, but I don't see any reason why it would be different. Definitely enough stability stock with these frames to stand up to college level pace and apparently pro-level pace if the reports here about the specs they are using are correct.

 

[Nostradamus]

WOWm is this really selling like hotcakes ?

 

[morten]

WOWm is this really selling like hotcakes ?

This guy is even more annoying than Tennisnerd..

 

[jmacdaununder2]

At least TN can hit the ball okay, albeit somewhat robotically.

 

[B-Line]

No place or time for stupid comments here, let serious people discuss it, get out of here!

Well said that high level player

 

[Adv. Edberg]

isn't most people playing with stock racquets? Nadal is for sure

 

[jsm1373]

Wait, your decision is based on what he uses for a grip size and not what actually fits your own hand?

No. I think he has the potential to be an all-time great and as a collector, want to have a new example of what he used his rookie year.

 

[MRfStop]

This guy is even more annoying than Tennisnerd..

"So this is a pro stock...its kind of like what you can buy from a tennis store...but pro stocks are basically made of magic and give you god like tennis ability. That's pretty much all I know about it"

 

[mad dog1]

I have the racquet…I have the string…I have a Briffidi…I will find out exactly how much 1.30 RPM blast adds to the SW on the next string job!

So…strung 2 piece…RPM Blast 1.30 adds 32.83 pts of SW in the PAVS measured on my Briffidi.