Carlos Alcaraz is using a stock Pure aero vs

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
He also had issues with his right elbow, maybe with cubital canal inflammation, a larger grip would help to hold the racquet more loosely, or to better dissipate vibrations from the frame. To be clear I'm totally guessing. Babs also have rubbery, dense and thick base grips, also to absorb vibrations from their stiff frames, very different compared to H, W or Y.

I wouldn't be surprised if Babolat did a real technical/scientific study with him. He's their future, and most young pros don't want to play with a Babolat, they absolutely could not lose him, from the business point of view.

That frame was made specifically for him, and maybe Rune, it's a depolarized attackers' frame, very unlike almost all Babolats ever, so I'm guessing again, that someone said "we want a Federer-like frame, but lighter" at some point several years ago, and Babolat managers said, "well, then you'll get exactly that"

Plus Carlos has an exceptionally twitchy swings, serves used to be super explosive too, in 2022 he's playing kick serves much more. L4 grip size probably has something to do with all that, is my guess.

And now to sw. My guess is that after he lost and had difficulties on grass, especially in the first rounds while it's still lush and slick, and Sinner punched through him recently even on clay, although with RS Pro balls, similar things might happen in the future. Probably not during US summer swing, Wilson US Open balls jump up, and have enough float time so that he can consistently blast them from between hip and shoulder height, but at some point in the future I suspect someone will move him around on a bad hair day, and JC Ferrero will say "Charlie we really have to go up with sw, min 335 but 340 would be better, so that you can dig yourself easier from corners, block balls back, counterpunch and more"

Players easily have a feel to punch through someone with a fly swatter, and most aren't so good at blocking and bunting it back like Kyrgios. De Minaur, Goffin, Tiafoe, Brooksby etc, are all quick, thanks to light racquets too, they run and move the ball around quickly, have quick counterpunch swings etc, but they all have too many snowflake balls that get attacked. Nishikori and Agassi, but Federer too, are examples of a lightning quick players but with heavy/high sw racquets.

My guess is that Alcaraz will join Sinner in the 340sw club very soon, if he hasn't already. This is not a comparison between me and them, sorry about that, but my VSes are at 335sw with RPM Power 1.30, and I might go up to 340sw, but not above, with counterbalancing in the handle. It's a frame made for adding a lot of lead at 12 and in the handle, lead at 12 calmed down the feel and vibrations, made it juicier and nicer feeling. I also need more weight and sw because I have a one handed backhand that is just so weak with a light racquet, same applies for bh slice.

Oh but please give us the specs?

Wow what a post! Really great insights, thank you
 

TennisLogic

Semi-Pro
Hey guys, I said I measured the specs but didn't say I was going to share it with y'all. I'm probably not going to post the specs. I was one of the first to confirm Carlos's frame specs and posted it on this forum, and I had more people doubting, calling BS, and other troll comments. So believe what you want to believe, after all, you guys seemed to know everything. :)
We’ll said
 
Nice of Carlos to sign it on court? as well:unsure::sneaky:
Seeing as you bother to post here - but don't want to reveal specs - how's about confirming your credibility regarding this matter with another picture with, say, my or someone else's user name and today's date?
At this point you could either - as others have done before you - feign/ mock a fit of rage and cease posting on the subject, or simply prove that you're legit and bask in immortal TT glory by posting another picture.
 
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staryugi

Rookie
Hey guys, I said I measured the specs but didn't say I was going to share it with y'all. I'm probably not going to post the specs. I was one of the first to confirm Carlos's frame specs and posted it on this forum, and I had more people doubting, calling BS, and other troll comments. So believe what you want to believe, after all, you guys seemed to know everything. :)
Man, it's not because there were people who were skeptical the first time that you're going to decide not to post the specs, it's childish, it was me who created this post and I believed in the first version, so post the specs or just forget about it, stop messing with people's feelings! IN FACT NO ONE GIVES A F*** ABOUT ALCARAZ, he plays for himself not for us, it was just a normal topic to discuss something unusual about pro's racquets, no need to play the bad guy! CONTEMPTIBLE !
 

muyun

New User
Hey guys, I said I measured the specs but didn't say I was going to share it with y'all. I'm probably not going to post the specs. I was one of the first to confirm Carlos's frame specs and posted it on this forum, and I had more people doubting, calling BS, and other troll comments. So believe what you want to believe, after all, you guys seemed to know everything. :)

such a shame
 

Jonesy

Legend
Hey guys, I said I measured the specs but didn't say I was going to share it with y'all. I'm probably not going to post the specs. I was one of the first to confirm Carlos's frame specs and posted it on this forum, and I had more people doubting, calling BS, and other troll comments. So believe what you want to believe, after all, you guys seemed to know everything. :)
True, people here will only believe what they want to believe. It makes no difference in the end what lies in the rabbit hole.
 
I believe Holger is using stock as well. I got a hold of a racket of his with a slight crack and it felt exactly like stock VS. No lead tape insight. And felt as light as a normal babolat.
 

aaron_h27

Hall of Fame
Hey guys, I said I measured the specs but didn't say I was going to share it with y'all. I'm probably not going to post the specs. I was one of the first to confirm Carlos's frame specs and posted it on this forum, and I had more people doubting, calling BS, and other troll comments. So believe what you want to believe, after all, you guys seemed to know everything. :)
What an a**hole move. What was the point of telling us you have his personal racket?
 

Hulger

Semi-Pro
Hey guys, I said I measured the specs but didn't say I was going to share it with y'all. I'm probably not going to post the specs. I was one of the first to confirm Carlos's frame specs and posted it on this forum, and I had more people doubting, calling BS, and other troll comments. So believe what you want to believe, after all, you guys seemed to know everything. :)
How could you have confirmed the specs before you actually got the racquet now?
Such an idiot, instant ignore
 

VAPORHEAD

Rookie
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Lambsscroll

Hall of Fame
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Come on dude, the specs you’re giving isn’t for a strung racket with over grip.
 
What’s that whooshing noise? I think it’s the sound of HeavyHitter’s nosediving credibility reaching terminal velocity despite the pilot’s apparent ability to pull up at any time; fortunately said credibility was already too small to cause much damage at impact. (Again I’m more than happy to be corrected at any time.) :sneaky:
 
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what_army

Semi-Pro
The L4 grip must be something recent (to help with his elbow issues I’m guessing). I saw multiple references that he was playing with L2 up to 2019/20.
 

mikele

Rookie
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Rune was using a leaded pure drive , 314gr ( confirm by him https://tennispredict.com/holger-rune-tennis-racquet/), so he is probably using a similar weight on the pure Vs , but of course he could have gone 10 gr lighter?, as for felix he uses the aero storm mold, not the Vs.
 

McEncock

Professional
Those signed racquets by Babolat mean nothing. Babolat take off the shelf racquets and makes the players sign dozens of them and send them to the shops to expose them. In the shop I work at, there is a signed "Rafa Aero" with a grip 3 which has nothing to do with Rafa's actual racquet.
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If you pay attention Carlos never uses a silver Bab tape on his overgrips, plus he puts the tape in a special way.
 

rios76

Rookie
Yup, 4 1/2 L4 grip. When I was holding the racquet and swinging it, it felt just right somehow.
Carlos probably wasn't a member of TW forums when he was training as a junior ;) Most juniors, even nationally ranked ones I've trained with, don't really pay attention to small details like grip size. They just play with what was given to them and adjust to it. I'm guessing Carlos just played with what felt right for him, not necessarily trying to copy Nadal or whats posted on TW forums. Maybe we've been doing it all wrong and Carlos is doing it right?!

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With a normal Babolat Syntec pro grip?
 

HeavyHitter

Rookie
Holy cow! I didn't check the boards for few days and got some hurt feelings :). First of all I was joking, I guess I know who the real trolls are, so relax. I’ve been busy so didn’t get to post the rest of the pics. If you check my previous posts I’ve contributed with plenty to this forum. What’s up with this entitled attitude anyways… I don’t need credit from a forum of nobodies, I’m here to learn and share.
I’ll post the pics tomorrow, just easier to do it on pc instead of my phone.
Measured specs - 330g 32.2cm L4 with og

So the confirmed spec I got from babolat which was unstrung is def correct. Balance could be off by .1mm but the swing weight could be matching.

The person that has it was ultra protective of the frame so I couldn’t take it for swingweight measurement but I’m guessing 325~ ish. My modded VS is 331g 32.7cm 333sw. So I’ve measured 6 VS Aeros frames so far and I can tell you the quality control is really good all 6 were within 5g or less. So I can tell you by the 6 frames that it is possible to get a stock frame at this spec but it’ll be by pure chance. No silicone in the handle or lead under the head bumper. He grips the over grip really tight so the grip didn’t feel that big. Ive transitioned from a L4 to L2 over the years, kind of makes me curious to try it out again with new tech.

cheers!

almost forgot Rpm blast 1.30mm 25k/23kg

Here you go!

 
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TennisLogic

Semi-Pro
Holy cow! I didn't check the boards for few days and got some hurt feelings. First of all I was joking, I guess I know who the real trolls are, so relax. I’ve been busy so didn’t get to post the rest of the pics. If you check my previous posts I’ve contributed with plenty to this forum. What’s up with this entitled attitude anyways… I don’t need credit from a forum of nobodies, I’m here to learn and share.
I’ll post the pics tomorrow, just easier to do it on pc instead of my phone.
Measured specs - 330g 32.2cm L4 with og

So the confirmed spec I got from babolat which was unstrung is def correct. Balance could be off by .1mm but the swing weight could be matching.

The person that has it was ultra protective of the frame so I couldn’t take it for swing measurement but I’m guessing 328 ish. My modded VS is 331g 32.7cm 333sw. So I’ve measured 6 VS Aeros frames so far and I can tell you the quality control is really good all 6 were within 5g or less. So I can tell you by the 6 frames that it is possible to get a stock frame at this spec but it’ll be pure chance. No silicone in the handle or lead under the head bumper. He grips the over grip really tight so the grip didn’t feel that big. Ive transitioned from a L4 to L2 over the years, kind of makes me curious to try it out again with new tech.

cheers!

almost forgot Rpm blast 1.30mm 25k/23kg
You’ve posted this info in the past. Don’t mind the trolls
 

Hulger

Semi-Pro
Holy cow! I didn't check the boards for few days and got some hurt feelings :). First of all I was joking, I guess I know who the real trolls are, so relax. I’ve been busy so didn’t get to post the rest of the pics. If you check my previous posts I’ve contributed with plenty to this forum. What’s up with this entitled attitude anyways… I don’t need credit from a forum of nobodies, I’m here to learn and share.
You have made such a big deal of yourself by withholding the info and teasing everybody interested in the subject by referring that they might not deserve it because you have previously encountered some (healthy) sceptisism about the indirect info you obtained from some random Babolat representative. So it actually seems like you care about the reactions received here.
Now if you state that you are just here to learn and share, please stop yourself acting like a troll and show some respect for the fellow tennis players.
But thank you for finally confirming some specs here on ”the forum of nobodies!”
 

HeavyHitter

Rookie
You have made such a big deal of yourself by withholding the info and teasing everybody interested in the subject by referring that they might not deserve it because you have previously encountered some (healthy) sceptisism about the indirect info you obtained from some random Babolat representative. So it actually seems like you care about the reactions received here.
Now if you state that you are just here to learn and share, please stop yourself acting like a troll and show some respect for the fellow tennis players.
But thank you for finally confirming some specs here on ”the forum of nobodies!”
You're welcome?? Seems like everyone's so sensitive these days. You guys were making this into a big deal, not me. The amount of entitlement and idiocracy on this forum does get annoying but I understand some people get their dopamine fix this way and will probably never change. For the rest of grown-ups, if my post was that offensive, I apologize but I wanted to see who the real trolls are :). If you've read some of the rude comments I've had to, unfortunately, you'll understand why I was having fun with it.

Cheers!
 
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