so then it goes back to the fact that we dont know his specs since he is using a pro-stock?The dimples/pimples are only on the retail models. Pro stock (babolat calls them competition) models, don’t have them. They’re current or old retail frames made to more stringent quality control standards. Often, no specs on them or slightly different graphics too. A friend used to work high up for babolat and has confirmed this to me and even gotten pro stock frames for me from them…
basically, nothing to see here folks. He’s using the new gen aero vs mold. They just don’t put pimples on the pro stocks.
Indeed, I think that is the right conclusion. "Based" on a current stock frame but certainly not the same. There are ever so slight differences on these photo's that just don't resemble my stock VS's. We have no idea of what is underneath the paint (that by the way also does not resemble the paint on my VS's, ever so slightly different in colour and gloss...).so then it goes back to the fact that we dont know his specs since he is using a pro-stock?
Not convinced, from those angles, I believe it isn’t close enough to conclude if they are dimples or not. I personally have a PAVS and I think they aren’t very raised enough for a camera to fully capture them unless it is a couple of inches away. Otherwise, highlights or shadows can take it away from the picture. I use to do a lot of photography on my sparetime. On the OP’s pic, I think I see a hint of dimples on 3oclock and below that (4:30 (between the 2 stripes)).for instance I would expect to see the raised dot pattern in one of these:
And in the previous paint
All I see are shadows and reflections of the strings in the area around the stripes in the inner hoop
Babolat competition/pro stock models come at retail specs just with tighter qc. Not lighter like head racquets or some Wilson layups. Pretty safe to assume that’s what he has when considering the spec reports that are circulating. Of course, he could have lead under the bumper but honestly does it matter?so then it goes back to the fact that we dont know his specs since he is using a pro-stock?
Agreed, honestly, I actually don’t give a ***** , as I like my PAVS for MY game and anyway, I always customize any racquet to MY liking. But, in another perspective, I hate that racquet companies are often dishonest to their customers. If Babolat admits that CA uses a prostock, I’d be 100% fine with it, it’s HIS racquet. Another example is FAA’s “Pure Aero” where it is VERY obvious he is using a 2016 Pure VS under the paint.This thread is hilarious.
This thread is exactly why they don't. This frame was barely selling and now, it will sell like crazy. Big money in "marketed perception".But, in another perspective, I hate that racquet companies are often dishonest to their customers. If Babolat admits that CA uses a prostock, I’d be 100% fine with it, it’s HIS racquet.
I have three PAVS. I found that I sometimes lost the feel of where the top of the racket was when returning serve.Following on my post above, adding the lead at the inner v throat (4 grams), made the racquet more difficult to handle and gave me some wrist discomfort, has anyone added lead at 12 only, like 4 grams? How was the racquet feeling?
geez, that is extremely bad QC. I have had rackets that differed by as much as 9 SW units but your rackets have a difference of 24 SW units. I agree though that it is highly likely that he is customizing his rackets. The premier stringing services used by the pros have customization and matching services and the top tier of ATP and WTA are using them.Here's some food for thought. I currently have 2 Pure Aero VS, both uncustomized. They are currently strung with a Tecnifibre poly. One racket is SW328, the second racket is SW304. Keep in mind these are strung measurements.
It's most likely that he does have lead at 12 on his racket, not necessarily to increase the SW very high, but instead to at least match each of his racket to one another. So some rackets will have slightly more lead, some slightly less lead. It is much easier to add 2 in. of lead tape to match up the specs, than it is to manufacture the rackets all with the same exact specs.
He is now endorsing the Pure Aero 98, which is not yet released to the consumer market. But he doesn't use the Aero VS paintjob any more, so that's probably why they have him in the main Aero section.All these questions on pro stock, dimples pimples, paint, etc, and TW is still putting Alcaraz under the regular Pure Aero section and not the VS?
maybe this was discussed before, but is there going to be more than a cosmetic difference between the “98” and the current VS for the retail market?He is now endorsing the Pure Aero 98, which is not yet released to the consumer market. But he doesn't use the Aero VS paintjob any more, so that's probably why they have him in the main Aero section.
In the January 2023 release of the Pure Aero 98 (a replacement of the Pure Aero VS), the grommets are more cylindrical-shaped, so the string does not move as much. This allows for a focus on precision for the "fast spin" player.They said it will have different materials, so it will be different
They also mentioned something about fiberglass fibers but could be a marketing moveIn the January 2023 release of the Pure Aero 98 (a replacement of the Pure Aero VS), the grommets are more cylindrical-shaped, so the string does not move as much. This allows for a focus on precision for the "fast spin" player.
Babolat's Updated Pure Aero Tennis Racket Line Introduces New Technologies, Flax (forbes.com)
I see this thread constantly pop-up in the pro player gear section and wonder to myself..This thread is hilarious.
Force = Mass x AccelerationIf Force = Mass x Velocity, if you have less mass you will need more velocity/RHS.
yep, not anymore but back in 2020 when he was 17 years old he was.All pure aero vs in stock form have DIMPLES, Alcaraz's Pure aero VS has no DIMPLES, SO the answer of that big question is simple, maybe he's using a pure aero vs with lower specs ( or not ) etc etc etc...., but guys he's not using the pure aero vs we find in stores !
With heavy racquet you use the inertia of it, not force...Force = Mass x Acceleration
What this also means is that with the same force, a lighter object will accelerate faster. Intuitively you know this, the heavier the object, the more force you need to accelerate it