Carlos Moya vs Juan Carlos Ferrero

3loudboys

Legend
Ferrero for me but the stats give Moya the edge with 20 titles to 16.

FerreroMoya
Born12/02/198027/08/1976
Height1.83 m (6 ft 0 in)1.90 m (6 ft 3 in)
Turned pro19981995
Retired2012 singles; 2017 doubles17-Nov-10
Prize money$13,992,895US$13,443,970
Career record479–262 (64.6%)575–319 (64.3%)
Career titles1620
Highest rankingNo. 1 (8 September 2003)No. 1 (15 March 1999)
Grand Slam Singles results
Australian OpenSF (2004)F (1997)
French OpenW (2003)W (1998)
WimbledonQF (2007, 2009)4R (2004)
US OpenF (2003)SF (1998)
Other tournaments
Tour FinalsF (2002)F (1998)
Olympic GamesQF (2000)QF (2004)
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
I’d go with Moya de Majorca for inventing the colossal club clay forehand that precipitated the birth of The Nadal.
 
Ferrero was better when he was a top player in 2001, 2002, 2003
I consider Ferrero to have been about as good as Thiem
He stopped being a top players in 2004 after his Australian Open semifinal when he got chicken pox, and later an injury. He never returned to the top ten, like he was never the same physically.

Moya's case is different, he was pretty much a top ten player from 1997 until 2004 iirc, having problems with injuries like around 2000 and 2001
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Ferrero was better when he was a top player in 2001, 2002, 2003
I consider Ferrero to have been about as good as Thiem
He stopped being a top players in 2004 after his Australian Open semifinal when he got chicken pox, and later an injury. He never returned to the top ten, like he was never the same physically.

Moya's case is different, he was pretty much a top ten player from 1997 until 2004 iirc, having problems with injuries like around 2000 and 2001
Please don't insult Ferrero.
 

Cashman

Hall of Fame
Ferrero for me but the stats give Moya the edge with 20 titles to 16
Only because JCF was an injury crock. Mosquito won 7 of their first 9 matches, Moya couldn’t touch him until they were both past it (2005 onwards).

The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long
 
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Jack the Hack

Hall of Fame
Ferrero for me but the stats give Moya the edge with 20 titles to 16.

FerreroMoya
Born12/02/198027/08/1976
Height1.83 m (6 ft 0 in)1.90 m (6 ft 3 in)
Turned pro19981995
Retired2012 singles; 2017 doubles17-Nov-10
Prize money$13,992,895US$13,443,970
Career record479–262 (64.6%)575–319 (64.3%)
Career titles1620
Highest rankingNo. 1 (8 September 2003)No. 1 (15 March 1999)
Grand Slam Singles results
Australian OpenSF (2004)F (1997)
French OpenW (2003)W (1998)
WimbledonQF (2007, 2009)4R (2004)
US OpenF (2003)SF (1998)
Other tournaments
Tour FinalsF (2002)F (1998)
Olympic GamesQF (2000)QF (2004)
When the numbers are this close, I think it really boils down to personal preference more. These are just our opinions afterall.

It seems that everyone in the thread is going for Ferrero, but I'll be the contrarian that leans toward Moya. Carlos was one of my favorite players in the late 1990s and I think he hit a bigger ball, at least from the forehand side. However, I feel like I'm very biased on this for personal reasons. I watched Moya play up close in person, while I only saw JCF on TV. Plus, off-court, I had an opportunity to meet Carlos and his family a few years ago and they were really nice to me, so I'm sure that has an influence on my perception.

I do think that it is interesting that Moya coaches Nadal and JCF coaches Alcaraz, Nadal's heir-apparent in Spain. That said, while Alcaraz wears Nike, plays with a Babolat, and has a slight resemblance to Nadal, I've always thought that Alcaraz plays much more like JCF than he does Nadal. Hopefully, Ferrero can steer Alcaraz away from the temptations of exotic cars and women, which sidetracked him in his mid-20s.

BTW, is it common knowledge that Sharapova had a stalker-like crush on Ferrero when she was 16? Apparently, she wrote about how she'd fallen for him in her autobiography, but it sounds like he never returned the attention.
 
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