Carlos to save Tennis for the 3rd time in 2 months?

Carlos to save Tennis for the 3rd time in 2 months?

  • Yes

    Votes: 34 66.7%
  • No

    Votes: 17 33.3%

  • Total voters
    51

xFedal

Legend
He saved Tennis from Zverev at the French Open, He saved Tennis at Wimbledon, will he now save Tennis at Olympics a 3rd time in 2 months ?


Who wins the Gold Medal match?

  • Djokovic
    33.3%

  • Alcaraz
    66.7%
1,753 votes·1 day left
 

Apun94

Hall of Fame
He saved Tennis from Zverev at the French Open, He saved Tennis at Wimbledon, will he now save Tennis at Olympics a 3rd time in 2 months ?


Who wins the Gold Medal match?

  • Djokovic
    33.3%

  • Alcaraz
    66.7%
1,753 votes·1 day left
Yes especially after the S.H.I.T that djokovic pulled yesterday of faking and crying like a little baby, and making excuses that oh my knee is injured only to play and move very well today. Cant wait for the possum clown to lose to the best player in the world
 

Pheasant

Legend
Here's another scenario. And I don't want this to happen, since I never want anybody to get injured. But I could see Djoker fighting harder than he's ever fought to squeak out the elusive gold medal in the final set while saving match points. But in the process, he injures his knee so badly, that he's out of commission for the rest of the year.
 

dking68

Legend
Here's another scenario. And I don't want this to happen, since I never want anybody to get injured. But I could see Djoker fighting harder than he's ever fought to squeak out the elusive gold medal in the final set while saving match points. But in the process, he injures his knee so badly, that he's out of commission for the rest of the year.
Who do you got for the USO?
 

Pheasant

Legend
What's weird is that Alcaraz's form in the semis hasn't been an indicator of how he'll do in the final. There are instances where he smoked his opponent in the semis, only to be stretched to the max in the final. Conversely, there have been instances where in struggled to win the deciding set, only to win the final comfortably in straight sets.

Alcaraz’s scoreline in big title semis prior to playing the final

2024 Olympics semi: steamrolled FAA with a pair of breadsticks- ?????? in the final
2024 Wimbledon semi: beat Med comfortably in 4, then won final in straights
2024 FO semi: beat Sinner in 5 sets, then won the final in 5
2024 IW semi: beat Sinner in 3 sets, then won the final in straight sets

2023 Cinci semi: beat Hurkacz in 3 sets, then lost his only big title final to Djoker in arguably the most entertaining match in years(7-5, 6-7, 6-7).
2023 Wimbledon semi: beat Med very comfortably in straight sets, then won in 5 in the final
2023 Madrid semi: beat Coric in straight easily, then won the final in 3 sets
2023 IW semi: beat Sinner in straights, then won the final in straight sets
2022 USO semi: needed 5 sets to beat Tiafoe, then won the final in 4
2022 Madrid semi: squeaked by Djoker 6-7, 7-5, 7-6, then won the final in straight sets
2022 Miami semi: beat Hurkacz in straights, then won the final in straight sets
 
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KingCarlitos

Hall of Fame
What's weird is that Alcaraz's form in the semis hasn't been an indicator of how he'll do in the final. There are instances where he smoked his opponent in the semis, only to be stretched to the max in the final. Conversely, there have ben instances where in struggled to win the deciding set, only to win the final comfortably in straight sets.

Alcaraz’s scoreline in big title semis prior to playing the final

2024 Olympics semi: steamrolled FAA with a pair of breadsticks- ?????? in the final
2024 Wimbledon semi: beat Med comfortably in 4, then won final in straights
2024 FO semi: beat Sinner in 5 sets, then won the final in 5
2024 IW semi: beat Sinner in 3 sets, then won the final in straight sets

2023 Cinci semi: beat Hurkacz in 3 sets, then lost his only big title final to Djoker in arguably the most entertaining match in years(7-5, 6-7, 6-7).
2023 Wimbledon semi: beat Med very comfortably in straight sets, then won in 5 in the final
2023 Madrid semi: beat Coric in straight easily, then won the final in 3 sets
2023 IW semi: beat Sinner in straights, then won the final in straight sets
2022 USO semi: needed 5 sets to beat Tiafoe, then won the final in 4
2022 Madrid semi: squeaked by Djoker 6-7, 7-5, 7-6, then won the final in straight sets
2022 Miami semi: beat Hurkacz in straights, then won the final in straight sets
Carlitos is just a big game merchant, always steps up
 

dking68

Legend
Man, this is a tough one. Hard courts are by far the most competitive surface these days. I might go something like this for their chances:

Sinner: 27%
Alcaraz: 22%
Djoker: 16%
Medvedev: 15%
Zverev: 12%
Rest of the field: 8%
Let’s see what Sinner does in Montreal. He needs to rack up those masters titles. For some reason he finds a way to lose/not play well in masters series events
 

dking68

Legend
Man, this is a tough one. Hard courts are by far the most competitive surface these days. I might go something like this for their chances:

Sinner: 27%
Alcaraz: 22%
Djoker: 16%
Medvedev: 15%
Zverev: 12%
Rest of the field: 8%
Boy I’m not so sure about this. I don’t think he’s a contender. I think he loses early or doesn’t play at all.
 

Apun94

Hall of Fame
Here's another scenario. And I don't want this to happen, since I never want anybody to get injured. But I could see Djoker fighting harder than he's ever fought to squeak out the elusive gold medal in the final set while saving match points. But in the process, he injures his knee so badly, that he's out of commission for the rest of the year.
Ill take that tbh
 

Apun94

Hall of Fame
What's weird is that Alcaraz's form in the semis hasn't been an indicator of how he'll do in the final. There are instances where he smoked his opponent in the semis, only to be stretched to the max in the final. Conversely, there have been instances where in struggled to win the deciding set, only to win the final comfortably in straight sets.

Alcaraz’s scoreline in big title semis prior to playing the final

2024 Olympics semi: steamrolled FAA with a pair of breadsticks- ?????? in the final
2024 Wimbledon semi: beat Med comfortably in 4, then won final in straights
2024 FO semi: beat Sinner in 5 sets, then won the final in 5
2024 IW semi: beat Sinner in 3 sets, then won the final in straight sets

2023 Cinci semi: beat Hurkacz in 3 sets, then lost his only big title final to Djoker in arguably the most entertaining match in years(7-5, 6-7, 6-7).
2023 Wimbledon semi: beat Med very comfortably in straight sets, then won in 5 in the final
2023 Madrid semi: beat Coric in straight easily, then won the final in 3 sets
2023 IW semi: beat Sinner in straights, then won the final in straight sets
2022 USO semi: needed 5 sets to beat Tiafoe, then won the final in 4
2022 Madrid semi: squeaked by Djoker 6-7, 7-5, 7-6, then won the final in straight sets
2022 Miami semi: beat Hurkacz in straights, then won the final in straight sets
Can we pls stop hyping that Cinci match of last year? Quality was sub par. It was an intense match with many seesaws but it was never a high quality match. Djokovic was playing **** poor for 2 sets and Alcarz choked in the 2nd set
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Novak is the overwhelming favourite for the final. He’ll be full of energy because he has played it safe this Olympics and not overextended himself and flamed out pulling out of the doubles like in past Olympic Games.

He has led a very careful and very cautious Olympic campaign, even going so far as exiling from the Olympics village and electing not to stay with his teammates and support them in the village. Quite an understandable and reasonable approach and one that I think has helped his campaign immensely.

I’d love to see CLUTCHcaraz win. I can’t imagine a better custodian of the Olympic Gold continuing on from King Nadal and Murray, but there is no doubt this is Novak’s final to lose. He is the overwhelming favourite here.

Both players will feel free to just go for it in this final. Regardless of winning or losing they each secure one of the biggest prizes in all of sport not just tennis.
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
The oddsmakers disagree as do TTW pollsters in the match thread. When I looked a few hours ago, 13% were picking Djokovic to win which has to an all time low for Djokovic in any match thread poll since 2011.
What are your thoughts on it? Do you think it’ll be Novak or Carlitos? It should be a fantastic match.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
What are your thoughts on it? Do you think it’ll be Novak or Carlitos? It should be a fantastic match.
I think Carlos is playing at a higher level now especially if he plays conservatively like he did in the Wimbledon final. Also Djokovic is not moving at 100% due to his knee issue - he is still only two months from surgery and vulnerable to tweaking it if he slips on the dry clay during this hot summer. He is hitting more BHs with an open stance due to a desire to protect his knee and I think is less offensive on that wing than usual. His BH volley is also affected especially against dipping shots.

The crowd might root for the old guy in his Sisyphean quest for Olympic gold and I wonder how Carlos will react to it as he is usually the golden boy that the crowd roots for. Will be forget to be conservative and go for spectacular shots to win over the crowd? Or after turning 21, is he mature enough to stay disciplined and take the efficient path to victory? Has he been a good boy resting before his big day or is he entertaining the Dutch women’s hockey team?

I think it might be a straight set win for Alcaraz if both players play to their form. Usually I support Alcaraz against everyone because he is the most entertaining player to watch on tour with a nice personality to boot, but I will be rooting for the old GOAT to prove his GOAT credentials somehow willing his way to victory.
 
This thread reminds me that it was unfair for people to think Alcaraz should have won the Olympics.
A 21-year-old should not be winning Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Gold Medal back2back2back :censored:
And he won Roland Garros the hard way by beating Sinner and Zverev, and won Wimbledon the hard way by beating Djokovic!
So unfair to expect Gold, especially when it took Djokovic almost 20 years of failure to win Gold, and Federer never won (singles) Gold...
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
This thread reminds me that it was unfair for people to think Alcaraz should have won the Olympics.
A 21-year-old should not be winning Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Gold Medal back2back2back :censored:
Especially when it took Djokovic almost 20 years to win Gold, and Federer never won (singles) Gold...
But he should be winning tourneys again. IW hopefully is the start.
 
But he should be winning tourneys again. IW hopefully is the start.
Well he won China last year, beating Sinner again :giggle:
And hardcourt is his worst surface, so can't expect 21-year-old to win titles on his worst surface consistently.
I'm happy with winning Roland Garros, Wimbledon, Indian Wells and China every year, and just cash-in at the USO and AO occasionally.
The best is yet to come anyway, as Alcaraz has clearly not mastered the art of shot-selection (which he doesn't need anyway, to win RG and Wimbledon).
 

a10best

Legend
Carlos lost his saviorship shield when he lost to Djokovic in the Olympics, AO. and that Cincy final. His mental weakness get exposed when he plays Djokovic;
All 3 should have been routine wins for him like the others when he beat Djokovic.
 
Carlos lost his saviorship shield when he lost to Djokovic in the Olympics, AO. and that Cincy final. His mental weakness get exposed when he plays Djokovic;
All 3 should have been routine wins for him like the others when he beat Djokovic.
Carlos will never be as mentally weak as 21-year-old Djokovic :giggle:
Plus I'd say Carlos is the mentally strongest 21-year-old of all-time, considering his 5-Set record and Slam Final record...
And when Carlos was 20 he beat Djokovic in the Wimbledon Final in 5-sets, probably the mentally strongest thing anyone has ever done in tennis history!
 
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