Carmel could become 1st California city to permanently ban pickleball

In SF, park and rec has told players not to use the courts before and after certain hours. The NOISE is bothering many homes which are near the courts. It’s occurring all over the city since the city is densely populated. Park and Rec will also no longer allow PBall on courts that are not painted for it. Those people had a nasty habit of not cleaning the courts after taping it over. I am all for it.
 
Spielgame said:
Why don't they design the bat to be softer and the ball made of rubber instead of plastic?
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Oh they have a research wing which has been trying to get manufacturers to make quiet paddles and balls. Apparently it is very difficult to do that and still adhere to professional standards already in place.
 
atatu said:
"Stringent requirements" that some dudes basically made up a few years ago, you're making it sound like these are standards that have been around for 100 years.
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Pickleball is big now. Paddle surface power and spin are rigorously tested for every new model. Pros have to submit their paddles for regular and random testing. Lawsuits are filed when a manufacturer's paddle is not approved. There is specialized testing equipment. Pickleball equipment testing is far more complicated than tennis equipment.

It doesn't matter how old or new it is. Careers and money are at stake.
 
The point is that they could easily change these "stringent requirements" if they wanted to, to address the noise issue. Ultimately it's subjective criteria that everyone could agree on. It's not that big of a deal. It's like when volleyball changed from Rally scoring to regular scoring. When tennis banned spaghetti stringing, things change, nothing is etched in stone tablets. Didn't pickleball just change some rule about serving ? I recall one of the guys in the pickleball section having a full on meltdown after Quang Duong beat Ben Johns, which he blamed on the rule change.
 
There seems to be only one paddle brand approved as an official tournament quiet paddle.

There doesn't seem to be a single quiet ball which is tournament approved.

The problem is that challenging to solve.
 
I know many avid pickle players, most play 4-7 times a week, but hardly any of them play in 'official' tournaments. They play round robins, mixers and casual tournaments at the centers, parks, and clubs where they play. Besides, for most people a big appeal of pickleball is the social aspect. If a company came out with paddles and balls that were quieter for 'recreational use' I think those players would go for it. I know someone who's HOA banned pickleball play due to the noise and they wondered why no one was doing anything about the noise. If the 'recreational' gear started selling well the 'official' pickleball powers that be would have no choice but to change. There are so many companies that make paddles now (probably double that of tennis) that a new company would find it hard to compete, but a company making gear that would allow for it to be played in places where it otherwise would not be allowed could compete. Or the powers that be may find a new sport will soon be introduced and cut deeply into pickleball (TYPTI).
 
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I remember hearing that they made a new rule to ban spin serves after people figured it out. These rules aren't set in stone, apparently.

Why not allow a rubber outer layer on paddles, like ping pong?
 
ey039524 said:
I remember hearing that they made a new rule to ban spin serves after people figured it out. These rules aren't set in stone, apparently.

Why not allow a rubber outer layer on paddles, like ping pong?
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Why would you ban spin serves? Plus this seems hard to police given most serves have some spin.
 
Connor35 said:
Why would you ban spin serves? Plus this seems hard to police given most serves have some spin.
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I don't know. I don't play. When I can't move, then I'll pick it up.

I just saw a new video on my YT feed about new rules for 2026 (didn't watch, don't know why YT thinks b/c I watch tennis I want to watch pickle), so apparently, pickle has no problem making up new rules.
 
Never heard of it until now. It's an improvement:

Body Strikes
• Players can use their racket or any body part (hand, foot, face, etc.) to strike the ball
• Ball strikes must be one motion, but can include multiple strikes and carries if the racket is accelerating
• If a player nets a ball, they may re-strike the ball with a body part or racket (not the string bed) one additional time to get it over the net, and they can do that an infinite number of times during a point. In doubles, after a netted ball, each player may hit the ball one additional time. Each player or team can do this one time until the ball crosses the net and then they may do it again on the next shot.
• Servers may hit the returner or returners partner with the ball, but if the ball comes off of anything but the string bed and it goes in – then the ball is live.
• Returner or returners teammate may move during the serve.
• Returners partner may not interfere with a serve that is going in.

Not a fan of multiple hits after you net the ball. No kitchen or no buckets (paddle tennis) is a good rule.
I wonder how long a foam ball will last.
 
a10best said:
Never heard of it until now. It's an improvement:

Body Strikes
• Players can use their racket or any body part (hand, foot, face, etc.) to strike the ball
• Ball strikes must be one motion, but can include multiple strikes and carries if the racket is accelerating
• If a player nets a ball, they may re-strike the ball with a body part or racket (not the string bed) one additional time to get it over the net, and they can do that an infinite number of times during a point. In doubles, after a netted ball, each player may hit the ball one additional time. Each player or team can do this one time until the ball crosses the net and then they may do it again on the next shot.
• Servers may hit the returner or returners partner with the ball, but if the ball comes off of anything but the string bed and it goes in – then the ball is live.
• Returner or returners teammate may move during the serve.
• Returners partner may not interfere with a serve that is going in.

Not a fan of multiple hits after you net the ball. No kitchen or no buckets (paddle tennis) is a good rule.
I wonder how long a foam ball will last.
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I thought it made points more exciting. They tout that this "sport" makes exciting points. Looks like it from the video.

I also like that you can't hit the net ball w your strings, but you can kick it or use the frame. Wacky.
 
ey039524 said:
I thought it made points more exciting. They tout that this "sport" makes exciting points. Looks like it from the video.

I also like that you can't hit the net ball w your strings, but you can kick it or use the frame. Wacky.
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Yep. Able to use your feet or any body part is odd when it's marketed as a racket sport.
The racket becomes an accessory.
Since I can't play paddle tennis, Padel gets my vote as the best of the pack.
 
a10best said:
Never heard of it until now. It's an improvement:

Body Strikes
• Players can use their racket or any body part (hand, foot, face, etc.) to strike the ball
• Ball strikes must be one motion, but can include multiple strikes and carries if the racket is accelerating
• If a player nets a ball, they may re-strike the ball with a body part or racket (not the string bed) one additional time to get it over the net, and they can do that an infinite number of times during a point. In doubles, after a netted ball, each player may hit the ball one additional time. Each player or team can do this one time until the ball crosses the net and then they may do it again on the next shot.
• Servers may hit the returner or returners partner with the ball, but if the ball comes off of anything but the string bed and it goes in – then the ball is live.
• Returner or returners teammate may move during the serve.
• Returners partner may not interfere with a serve that is going in.

Not a fan of multiple hits after you net the ball. No kitchen or no buckets (paddle tennis) is a good rule.
I wonder how long a foam ball will last.
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If you can use any body part to strike the ball, large 500+ lbs individuals can stand at the kitchen line and be a "wall".
 
Yes. If I get an overhead sometimes Ill have some yahoos charge the net w their arms wide open daring me to not hit them. With tpsti they can win the point if it dinks off their forehead and lands in. I think its an unnecessary gimmick
 
I stopped going to a tennis club after they split the courts 50/50 with pickleball. Given that the courts were separated only by curtains, the noise was unbearable. Goodbye!

Pickleball sounds like 3 year old kids playing in the park with a plastic ball. That sounds gets amplified 10x when you bring it indoor.
 
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