Celebrating 10 Years of the Nadal/Federer Rivalry

It has been 10 years since, in a fateful third round match at the Miami ATP Masters in 2004, Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer wrote the first page in what has become one of the most celebrated and talked about rivalries in modern tennis.

Against all odds, the young 17 year old Spaniard defeated Federer, in what would become the first of many matches, 6-3 6-3.

Full Match in YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeWyyRRtMaU

Some links:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...10-year-anniversary-at-miami-sony-open-tennis

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...rs-birthplace-of-the-federer-vs-nadal-rivalry

http://www.tennisperspective.com/20...rivalry-nadal-defeats-federer-miami-2004.html
 

LazyNinja19

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The Friends beyond the baseline!

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CDNguy87

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But only the first five years at most were anything special or exciting. It's been all downhill since the 2009 AO. Maybe even arguably since Wimby 2008, but that Aussie Open match still had a high degree of unpredictability due to Nadal never having won a HC slam going in.
 

NatF

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You could see Nadal and Federer were friendly at the 40 years of World #1 ceremony. They were chatting and laughing plenty.
 

fednad

Hall of Fame
I checked above.
"Enter" character is also counted in the 10 characters minimally needed to make a post.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
It has been 10 years since, in a fateful third round match at the Miami ATP Masters in 2004, Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer wrote the first page in what has become one of the most celebrated and talked about rivalries in modern tennis.

Against all odds, the young 17 year old Spaniard defeated Federer, in what would become the first of many matches, 6-3 6-3.

Full Match in YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeWyyRRtMaU

Some links:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...10-year-anniversary-at-miami-sony-open-tennis

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...rs-birthplace-of-the-federer-vs-nadal-rivalry

http://www.tennisperspective.com/20...rivalry-nadal-defeats-federer-miami-2004.html

Who was the umpire in their 2004 Miami match?
 

Maximagq

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Not sure about the 10 char limit but other message boards like College Confidential impose a similar limit so I think that is a message board standard.
 

Maximagq

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The way computers interpret characters is actually determined by an integer value that corresponds to a character on the ASCII table. The main ones to know are that 65 corresponds to 'a' and goes in increasing alphabetic and numeric orders up until 90 which is the char 'z'. 48 corresponds to '0' and you subtract from the character number to get the int value. For example, '10' - 48 will give you 10 as an int value.
 
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Maximagq

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think assembly level languages that give compilers instructions interpret everything in binary. The addresses to spots in memory when we use the ampersand & are interpreted as hexadecimal (0123456789ABCDEF).
 
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I suppose that if the H2H was the other way around there would be some more interest from salivating Fed fanboys and less derailing attempts by computer nerds with a feeble grasp of the basics of Computer Organization. :)
 
Yes well I am content that playing in the same period as Nadal, Federer has dominated 3 out of 4 majors, the wtf and achieved the record for weeks at nr 1. Not that I am not a Nadal fan though.
 

Maximagq

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I suppose that if the H2H was the other way around there would be some more interest from salivating Fed fanboys and less derailing attempts by computer nerds with a feeble grasp of the basics of Computer Organization. :)

"feeble grasp"? What is your exact knowledge on computer organization? Do you work in the software industry and/or are a CS major? The only reason I stated this is because one of the posters wanted to know about how the 10 char limit worked exactly. Besides, I think your thread is a good idea anyway. Two GOAT contenders deserve their place in the sun.
 
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fednad

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would 10 "enter" have same impact as 10 "\n" - two characters together?
Folks with more than feeble grasp of computer organization shall try this.
They may also mix the characters "H2H" with null character amongst other data set.
 

fednad

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"feeble grasp"? What is your exact knowledge on computer systems and how they work? Do you work in the software industry and/or are a CS major? The only reason I stated this is because one of the posters wanted to know about how the 10 char limit worked exactly. Besides, I think your thread is a good idea anyway. Two GOAT contenders deserve their place in the sun.

Forgive him.
AS you can see, he is writing from the the state hospital.
 
"feeble grasp"? What is your exact knowledge on computer organization? Do you work in the software industry and/or are a CS major? The only reason I stated this is because one of the posters wanted to know about how the 10 char limit worked exactly. Besides, I think your thread is a good idea anyway. Two GOAT contenders deserve their place in the sun.

What does computer organization have to do with a 10 character limit on application software, first of all?:)

Also, an Enter keypress is not uniformly mapped across platforms to the same character sequence. Unix systems map it to '\n', but that's just one platform. This can be a source of compatibility problems.

I was just kidding you, man. I know you were just messing around.
 
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I think it is safe to assume that nobody could have suspected this match would lead to what the rivalry later became, including what is considered as one of the best matches in the history of tennis.
 
would 10 "enter" have same impact as 10 "\n" - two characters together?
Folks with more than feeble grasp of computer organization shall try this.
They may also mix the characters "H2H" with null character amongst other data set.

Go back to your cage and stop trolling. More rolling and less trolling. :)
 
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fednad

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Go back to your case and stop trolling. More rolling and less trolling. :)

:) We can also try removing "t" from trolling and "roll" it few times. Also, it can be interspersed with "\n" (pronounced as backslash-en" - phonics is "en" as such it is the letter "n" (case notwithstanding).
 
:) We can also try removing "t" from trolling and "roll" it few times. Also, it can be interspersed with "\n" (pronounced as backslash-en" - phonics is "en" as such it is the letter "n" (case notwithstanding).

Don't forget to mash and mix the pills with your banana. :lol:
 

Maximagq

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What does computer organization have to do with a 10 character limit on application software, first of all?:)

Also, an Enter keypress is not uniformly mapped across platforms to the same character sequence. Unix systems map it to '\n', but that's just one platform. This can be a source of compatibility problems.

I was just kidding you, man. I know you were just messing around.

Okay sorry I admit going overboard trying to prove my knowledge, which isn't that much compared to a lot of other posters here like Sentinel, Cheetah, Chico. You have quite a bit of knowledge too. Do you work for a software firm? Anyway back to the tennis...
 
Okay sorry I admit going overboard trying to prove my knowledge, which isn't that much compared to a lot of other posters here like Sentinel, Cheetah, Chico. You have quite a bit of knowledge too. Do you work for a software firm? Anyway back to the tennis...

No problem, man. And no, I don't work for a software firm. ;)
 

Maximagq

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Where did you get your knowledge about computer systems? Are you like a freelance mobile developer or do you specialize in computer architecture or somewhere hardware related?
 
Where did you get your knowledge about computer systems? Are you like a freelance mobile developer or do you specialize in computer architecture or somewhere hardware related?

No, I am in the software field.

Are you planning on attending college and taking Computer Science?

Kudos on derailing this thread, by the way. Quote crafty of you. ;)
 

Maximagq

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Good for you, man. Start a thread in Odds and Ends and let's get back to the 10 Year Anniversary, yeah? :)

Sounds good. Going back to the match, Federer had beaten Davydenko the previous round and from what I recall felt kind of ill heading into the match against the 17 year old Spaniard that few had heard of. After being manhandled 3-6, 3-6, Federer remarked something along the lines "Nadal doesn't hit flat and hard. He hits with a lot of spin, which made the ball bounce high." This set the stage for the future Nadal game plan.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Good for you, man. Start a thread in Odds and Ends and let's get back to the 10 Year Anniversary, yeah? :)

From tennis x

While his fellow players know he is a tough customer on clay, they thought they would get a respite from Rafael "The Prodigy" Nadal during the U.S. spring hardcourt season. They were proven wrong Sunday night at Miami when the teenaged Nadal swept through world No. 1 Roger Federer 6-3, 6-3 in their first meeting.

"He hit some really incredible shots, and that's what youngsters do," Federer said. "I've heard a lot about him and saw some of his matches, so this is not a big surprise."

It was the continuation of an earlier problem for Federer, who survived a bad case of the shanks in a three-set opening win over Russian Nikolay Davydenko. The Swiss was hindered earlier in the week by the flu, which looks to be lingering. Through almost three months of play on the ATP tour, it was only the second loss for Federer on the year. This is the 17-year-old Nadal's first appearance at Miami.
http://www.tennis-x.com/story/2004-03-30/d.php
 

ARFED

Professional
not exactly a "rivalry"... More like a predictable one sided beatdown.

How is 10-23 a rivalry?

A better question would be "How was it possible for a guy dissapear for 1/3 of the season and finish the year as number 1? " Weak era perhaps?
 

90's Clay

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A better question would be "How was it possible for a guy dissapear for 1/3 of the season and finish the year as number 1? " Weak era perhaps?



Rafa was a long #2 despite only being good on clay for a number of years. Weak Era perhaps?

:shock::shock::shock:


Sampras was #1 for so many years because he was so great on the other surfaces.
 

ARFED

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Rafa arguably achieved more on HC in 2005 alone, than Pete achieved on clay in his whole career. Now you think about that...:)
 
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Deleted member 512391

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Rafa was a long #2 despite only being good on clay for a number of years. Weak Era perhaps?

:shock::shock::shock:


Sampras was #1 for so many years because he was so great on the other surfaces.

This is a common myth and a mistake, which has survived for some, to me unknown, reasons. Maybe because he has been uber dominant on clay, so all other results, compared to the clay ones, look average.

In his breakthrough year, which is 2005, he won five big titles, French Open, two Masters on clay and two Masters on hard (including his only indoor-hard court title). His first big final was not on clay, but at Miami 2005, where he almost beat peak Federer.

In the very next year, he reached his first Wimbledon final and continued to play finals there for the next six years (except in 2009).

He was never good "only on clay", he was a solid player on basically every surface, with the exception of the low bouncing indoor HC.
 
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Rafa arguably achieved more on HC in 2005 alone, than Pete achieved on clay in his whole career. Now you think about that...:)

I agree on this, Nadal won two Masters on HC in 2005 - Sampras has won only one clay Masters in his whole career.
 

90's Clay

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This is a common myth and a mistake, which has survived for some, to me unknown, reasons. Maybe because he has been uber dominant on clay, so all other results, compared to the clay ones, look average.

In his breakthrough year, which is 2005, he won five big titles, French Open, two Masters on clay and two Masters on hard (including his only indoor-hard court title). His first big final was not on clay, but at Miami 2005, where he almost beat peak Federer.

In the very next year, he reached his first Wimbledon final and continued to play finals there for the next six years (except in 2009).

He was never good "only on clay", he was a solid player on basically every surface, with the exception of the low bouncing indoor HC.



He couldn't even reach a hardcourt slam semis (And hard courts takes up half the year or more)
 
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Deleted member 512391

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He couldn't even reach a hardcourt slam semis (And hard courts takes up half the year or more)

Still, this doesn't prove that he was good only on clay, which is what you (incorrectly) claimed.
A player who had won multiple Masters on HC and had reached consecutive Wimbledon finals (losing only to a seven time champion) - compare this to Muster's or Guga's results on grass - is not "only good on clay" at all, at least not in mine (and in a lot of other reasonable posters') reality.
 
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