Stop acting like children when either Nadal or Federer lose. Loosen up to the fact that neither is a infallible god in any way and that they make mistakes and have character flaws just like the rest of us. Learn that the GOAT in any debate on any subject is subjective and will never, ever be answered (not in the least because we haven't seen all time.) So don't get started in petty arguments like jealous schoolgirls(or politicians) when one does better than the other. Enjoy the players for what dolay a game to entertain us with their rare abilities. Both Federer and Nadal have enshrined themselves in the tennis lore and won't always be around, so appreciate their ability while they are still here. I'm not saying you have to always be impartial, after all, you are fans. But name-calling(nadal-****s, etc.) and team mentality(love the player, not the game, and certainly hate the other "team") toss out anyone's credibility when it comes to actually giving an opinion on the game, or the players. This is not meant to insult anyone, it's just that everytime I've visited this site, there seems to be a lack of real thoughtful, logical threads(most seem to be some variation of Propping up one player's achievments or, more often, degrading other player's achievements) though there are some good threads,just lost in a sea of generally the same topic in different words. I forgot where I was going, but you get the general idea, try to be more mature and impartial, and I guarantee you will enjoy tennis tournaments in more fulfilling way. I'm not talking about everyone here either. I think the people who I'm talking about know who they are and the people this doesn't preclude to know who they are. Sorry for the rant, but I doubt it would be seen at the rants and raves section. *spoiler* Back to tennis. I thought Federer won the other day through playing with great aggression (esp. on the forehand)and good serving combined with variety on his shot selection (looked like he tried extremely hard to not hit a cross court backhand and when he hit his DTL backhand, it appeared that he looped it more than usual. He tried not to allow Nadal the luxury of playing as far back as he wants to by employing many dropshots. He mixed in just the right amount of SV and CC. mostly to losing effort, but enough to factor into some of Nadal's shot selection on returns and serves.), which seemed to keep Nadal guessing and unable to position himself correctly in enough rallies to be able to impose the usual winning forehand to backhand tactic. Federer also executed his plan very well, not making many errors and when he did make them they were aggressive, not forced errors.He also did not have the bad patches which seemed to have plagued him the last year or so(they've always seemed to have popped up during his service games). OTOH, Nadal seemed fine in the early games (He CRUSHED a cross court backhand for a winner, so I thought that the load-bearing ability of the leg was fine, his leg seemed worse in the Djokovic match), but later in the match it looked like he was having trouble with his movement. I wonder if this was due to Federer's Game plan breaking down one of Nadal's greatest strengths: his anticipation; or if Nadal's legs were simply weary from the season or previous match. That, I think is the biggest question: Was Nadal tired or did Federer's variety and tactics mess with Nadal anticipation (more important than speed, imo)? If it's the former than this win will probably not help Fed much during the French, if the latter then Fed might have a slight edge, but It will be tougher because of 5-set format and Rafa's level at the French. If it's a combination of the two then hopefully we (the fans) will be treated to a Wimbledon finals 08' type of match, but I would still give the edge to Rafa. Otherwise, I thought Nadal's shot-making was a little less than 100%, but still top class, so the movement/anticipation aspect seemed to be the turning point. But even with all this, my lasting impression of the match was how calm Federer was(more so than usual) and Nadal's usual scowl during service bounce looked to me more like befuddlement than simple intensity. Sorry for the long post. What are your thoughts on the match or my post (any aspect of it, but preferably the match.)?