Changes to grand slam rules and regulations

Centre Court

Centre Court

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here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
 
Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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I think the shot clock is a good idea. I also think that Wimbledon should have mandatory fifth set TB.

Not so sure how practical number 5 is, especially if there is rain.
 
I actually liked the US Open shot clock rules.

Basically once the umpire calls the score the 25 second shot clock begins. This means if it's a long rally and players are winded the ump has the discretion the wait a few more seconds before calling the score and thus activating the shot clock.

It's a win-win. You finally get time hogs like Rafa to serve immediately after a short point or unreturned serve, and you also give umpires the common sense discretion to let the crowd go wild if there's a big point and give the players a little time to breathe.

I would also add you have 5 seconds to serve a second serve once the ball kid grabs the ball that was fault from the first serve.
 
Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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Don`t pay players til the third round will kill the young players. Guys that tank are usually oldre players trying to pick up a check based on ranking. It is not killing you. Not paying the lower ranked players will kill them. That makes it a terrible idea, some of the others I agree with, but not that
 
I'm ok with some of the ideas.

#1: I don't agree. If somebody is visibly tanking they should be banned. Unless injuries are a part (even then they should try). Also if you just cant play the tournament, withdraw before. So fewer retirements happen and newer players come in.
#2: Agreed.
#3: Agreed. LOL. Don't want Karlovic doing that.
#4: Agreed. Unless you got treatment for a previous injury. If a new one developed then you can have an extra timeout.
#5: Mostly Agreed. More people should get a taste of each stadium and to adjust to other courts. The seating would be hard though. Each top 10 should play on Ashe once.
#6: Agreed
 
chrisb said:
Don`t pay players til the third round will kill the young players. Guys that tank are usually oldre players trying to pick up a check based on ranking. It is not killing you. Not paying the lower ranked players will kill them. That makes it a terrible idea, some of the others I agree with, but not that
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That is an idiotic idea. Sure the OP does not know the reality of the low ranked player. That money is so much needed, that is why qualifiers are a gigantic war
 
Let's say for players who are ranked outside the top 50 in rounds one and two get paid a set amount for round 1 and 2 , not half as much as now, but enough to appeal?
 
Also #5 will never happen. The top players are in the biggest stadiums because of ticket sales.
 
You would not need rule number 1 if you implemented rule number 6.

OP himself names Kyrgios and Tomic as serial number 1 offenders, and they also happen to be serial number 6 offenders.

Perhaps if we implemented rule number 7: " Kyrgios and Tomic must be arrested on sight at any tennis event and sent to Guatanamo Bay forever as tennis terrorists" we could do away with those rules?

EDIT: I do note that if you also arrested Rafa you could do away with rules 2,3 and 4.
 
Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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First round slam losers are overpaid, but lower ranked players overall are not. Perhaps halve the prize money for first round slam losers which would free up about $6 million from the 4 majors, and distribute that to the Challenger tournaments to boost their prize money. That way players who just miss entering slams get a share of the pie.
 
Funny, I thought the reason you burst your arse, tried to get through the hardships of starting out to be a pro was so you'd get paid -- y'know like how it happens in a "regular" job. But apparently according to the OP, it isn't supposed to work like that... if OP has any say in it, a heap of guys, who are pros, won't get paid. Does that happen to pros in any other sport - where one day they're pros, and the next day they're amateurs.

Wonder if professional lawyers, accountants etc work like that

Edit: Oh and if the poor guys didn't make it to the payday point you suggest, what do they pay at minimum their coach and trainer/physio with? Tell their staff to go trust some food at the supermarket to feed their families?
 
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Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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1. No. You are only considering the best players in the world that can make it past R2 of a major. This means to receive any sort of payday, you must beat at least 2 opponents, and for qualifiers this becomes 5. Practically every qualifier would receive no money and every young player would have to play for free. In fact, I'd suggest increasing prize money at the lower levels to help those out that lose there but still need a coach and/or team to help them out. Most tennis players are journeymen and tanking isn't as big of a problem as you think.

2. Yep, sounds good, but sometimes the adrenaline of the point needs a while to settle. I agree with @MasturB on this. US Open rules look good. If you want to limit their time between points, anyhow, you MUST include a shot clock. Time is weird when in an intense game.

3. lol

4. I'd say 1 MTO unless there is blood. Every time blood is visible, they are free to receive treatment without using up the MTO.

5. Definitely. Their opponents need time to scope out the court and the use of the main stage is disgusting! The matches get delayed by hours in order to put every single big name on the main court. Here's an idea- make 2 or 3 "main" courts.

6. The evidence must be conclusive, and either way, I think a ban for the next edition is too tough. Simply fine them everything they earned in the tournament thus far plus another set amount on top of that, say 15k? You know, so no one would risk tanking, as the payout after they catch you will always be -15k for the entire tournament.

Plus that lowers likelihood of tanking after R1 significantly. No one will risk a higher payday, especially if the payday is increased as it was in my point #1.
 
Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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I would add:

7. Players to bring their own towels and fetch them themselves. The ballkids are there to pick up balls and not act as personal servants for over-entitled diva-like players.
 
reaper said:
First round slam losers are overpaid, but lower ranked players overall are not. Perhaps halve the prize money for first round slam losers which would free up about $6 million from the 4 majors, and distribute that to the Challenger tournaments to boost their prize money. That way players who just miss entering slams get a share of the pie.
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Each tournament is its own business entity, so I don't think they'll give away any money into any sort of collective bargaining pool like in the sports team leagues.
 
Mainad said:
I would add:

7. Players to bring their own towels and fetch them themselves. The ballkids are there to pick up balls and not act as personal servants for over-entitled diva-like players.
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This was always the case until maybe 15 years ago.
 
1. Nope. Someone who plays with passion and yet loses will be at a huge disappointment. Better thing, I think, is to pay by sets played in earlier rounds, may be rounds 1 and 2. Three set win gets full prize, 4, 5 sets win gives reduced money proportionally. At the same time, compensate the 5, 4 set loser a bit more proportionally. 3 set loser gets nothing.

2. Agreed

3. Agreed. With condition that Rafa shouldn't try to hit it yet in an emotional or excited attempt.

4. Medical timeouts - fine. Bathroom- I guess each person is different and it's not fair to hold nature's call. May be the time limit can be strictly adhered to.

5. Agreed.

6. Evidence of tanking should get deduction of all points scored in that tournament until that point and also reducing the mandatory/stipulated tournament appearance count, so that the player will have to play an additional tournament, ban from next year's tourney, forfeit all prize money and also pay a monetary fine further. [/QUOTE]
 
Jackuar said:
1. Nope. Someone who plays with passion and yet loses will be at a huge disappointment. Better thing, I think, is to pay by sets played in earlier rounds, may be rounds 1 and 2. Three set win gets full prize, 4, 5 sets win gives reduced money proportionally. At the same time, compensate the 5, 4 set loser a bit more proportionally. 3 set loser gets nothing.

2. Agreed

3. Agreed. With condition that Rafa shouldn't try to hit it yet in an emotional or excited attempt.

4. Medical timeouts - fine. Bathroom- I guess each person is different and it's not fair to hold nature's call. May be the time limit can be strictly adhered to.

5. Agreed.

6. Evidence of tanking should get deduction of all points scored in that tournament until that point and also reducing the mandatory/stipulated tournament appearance count, so that the player will have to play an additional tournament, ban from next year's tourney, forfeit all prize money and also pay a monetary fine further.
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1. Disagree. If you make it so a 3 set loss gets nothing, non-seeds playing against seeded opponents are screwed over. They get nothing by spending their time and money coming to Flushing Meadows to play. It also makes a match like Shapo-Busta today extremely unfair. Shapo and Busta played 3 tiebreaks, all of which Busta won. Under your rules, Shapo would get nothing had they played in R1. That's bogus given the high level tennis that was being played.
 
disagree with taking prize money away. tomic the tank engine and kyrgios are the exception to the rule. most guys try their hardest.
 
TripleATeam said:
1. Disagree. If you make it so a 3 set loss gets nothing, non-seeds playing against seeded opponents are screwed over. They get nothing by spending their time and money coming to Flushing Meadows to play. It also makes a match like Shapo-Busta today extremely unfair. Shapo and Busta played 3 tiebreaks, all of which Busta won. Under your rules, Shapo would get nothing had they played in R1. That's bogus given the high level tennis that was being played.
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I meant the set based pay for earlier rounds only, rounds 1 and 2. Agreed about non-seeds losing though. Unless we have a way to prove someone tanked or misusing the system, we can't get around this scenario I guess.

What else can I think? May be more ranking points for round 1, 2 so the real ones will give their best and 's u c k e r s won't bother anyway?
 
The WTA are not going along with this unless the rules apply to the men's side only. Women only play best of three and want equal prize money.
 
Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors
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Well, if we adhere to Rule 5 then all doors will have to be adjusted; not only those on Centre Court. Hasn't Rafa suffered enough already?

A cheaper alternative is to fit Rafa with a helmet. Here's my design proposal:

Casque-moto-tennis-HELMET_678.jpg
 
MasturB said:
I actually liked the US Open shot clock rules.

Basically once the umpire calls the score the 25 second shot clock begins. This means if it's a long rally and players are winded the ump has the discretion the wait a few more seconds before calling the score and thus activating the shot clock.

It's a win-win. You finally get time hogs like Rafa to serve immediately after a short point or unreturned serve, and you also give umpires the common sense discretion to let the crowd go wild if there's a big point and give the players a little time to breathe.

I would also add you have 5 seconds to serve a second serve once the ball kid grabs the ball that was fault from the first serve.
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The time between 1st and 2nd serves is perhaps the biggest problem.

People talk about a "Fed special" when he wins a game serving in a minute or under. Compare with Nadal, who is going to waste at least 25 seconds between ever point, so that inflates a service game with short points and all first serves, won in 4 points, to an extra 75 seconds.

After each Nadal point I hit the fast forward button two times. The first is for double speed, but the next is about 5 times faster. I watch him run around like a cartoon character at 5 or 10 times the speed, hit return button and still safely get to the end of his windup. That's how slow he is.

Djokovic is not much better, and they are not the only two.
 
ban nadal haters from ttw first then idol worshippers

then we will have peace for eternity


instead of changing GS rules


that would be greater step
 
3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.


instead lower them :D
 
Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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The title should read: My ideas for changing....................

Then I wouldn't have wasted my time clicking on it. ;)
 
Centre Court said:
here are my ideas

1. Don't pay any player unless they reach 3rd round, too many players turning up for an easy pay check and retiring in round 1 instead of giving someone with a heart and passion a chance to play. Increase prize money at higher level to compensate, this separates the jokers from the dedicated ( Kyrgios and Tomic main examples ) If you are dedicated yet go out in round 1, get more dedicated because you are crap

2. Shot clocks must be adhered to
25 seconds between points as a normal rule, 30 for a rally exceeding 20 shots. Point deducted for one rule break, point deducted for next rule break, then forfeit of game for next rule break. Reset back to one point deduction if player breaks rule again etc

3. Heighten door frames in corridors adjacent to centre court of all 4 majors so Rafa doesn't bang his head again.

4. Players not allowed more than 1 medical timeout and no more than 2 bathroom breaks. Allow a longer break in between changeovers for recovery , or give a player 1 time out which lasts 5 minutes to use only once during the match.

5. top seeds must play on both main and secondary courts to provide leverage to other competitors

6. Evidence of tanking matches results in a ban from next years tournament , unless injury is causing problems
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1. You obviously haven't been following tennis for very long - significant debate in recent times about increasing prize money at bottom end to ensure a career in tennis remains a viable & financially sustainable option - stats show unless ranked in top 100 (or thereabouts) mst players only breaking even - implement your idea & would only be sustainable for top 50.

2. Fair enough.

3. ?

4. Longer breaks don't solve problem of player needing medical attention or having to use bathroom. In fact if you went down this path you'd only end up with more retirements.

5. Define top seeds, top 2, top 5? At majority of Slams top 4 seeds will typically play at least one match outside of center court. Ultimately down to tournaments discretion which will be influenced by supply & demand - not an issue, who cares.

6. Pretty sure if a player is found guilty of tanking (very hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt) they already face severe & significant punishments.
 
OP, here are a few you might like to add to your list:

1. Put a line 1 foot from the baseline beyond which players cannot stand to receive serve

2. Ban Babolat racquets

3. All players have to play right handed

4. Replay the point if the rally goes beyond 15 points

5. Ban banana shots
 
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