Cheong-Eui Kim has two forehands and serves (lefty and righty)

Jackuar

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I've wanted to see such players reach Top levels, like top 10. That'd be really cool and awesome. I'd assume that the physical toll vs benefit ratio would help with getting deeper into the draws, he could play his weaker hand in the earlier rounds and have fresher limb for crucial matches. I don't know how much of that will really work in reality.
 
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Problem is that when neutral either left or right hand will be in better position (at bottom of racquet) So there is still extra time for "switching" to the side of the hand that is on top. I think this is an inefficient way to play and doubt a player could make top 10 (or even 100) playing like this where margins are so slim. Credit to him for making it work this far though.
 

airchallenge2

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Thanks for sharing this video. Never seen anything like this before. It was interesting to think how frustrating this might be for he's opponent.
 

Alexrb

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Problem is that when neutral either left or right hand will be in better position (at bottom of racquet) So there is still extra time for "switching" to the side of the hand that is on top. I think this is an inefficient way to play and doubt a player could make top 10 (or even 100) playing like this where margins are so slim. Credit to him for making it work this far though.
Like Heninfan said he still has a two hander for when he doesn't have enough time to switch. I can throw both hands but never tried hitting lefty, wondering if it's worth messing with recreationally
 
There was a female player in the 1950's who hit forehands on both sides, I can't remember her name, I want to say she was British though, and she did quite well on the tour all things considered.

There are some players who can hit an opposite forehand when pressed out there today, like Sharapova.
 

Fedalian

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There are some players who can hit an opposite forehand when pressed out there today, like Sharapova.
Isn't that kind of like a desperation shot, like a stretching slice? She doesn't actually hit a full power forehand.

Also, your avatar is amazing. Bianca del Rio is my favorite queen.
 

ghostofMecir

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The two serves is very interesting as you would get the righty advantage on the deuce court and the lefty on the AD side. Would be really interesting to see someone who can really do this well pull that off.
 
Isn't that kind of like a desperation shot, like a stretching slice? She doesn't actually hit a full power forehand.

Also, your avatar is amazing. Bianca del Rio is my favorite queen.
Yup when Sharapova does it its usually on the run and she can't get into backhand position. I think Nadal does it as well. Sharapova is usually very sloppy when she does it, rarely does it actually help. Its not like shes a baseball switch hitter who can hit off both wings with both hands clean

and I love me some Bianca :)
 

Mack-2

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Wouldn't he have to practice double? He'll have two serves, two forehands and two backhands. I don't think it's possible to perfect all. Can't see him cracking the top 100.


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MathGeek

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If a player has time on the ball, it should be many times better than a backhand.
Yep. Gotta have a normal backhand ready for when there is not time to switch.

I hit two forehands in rec tennis, but I only bring my lhfh into the game when there is time to switch and when there is some advantage. Sometimes the advantage is more power and a better angle for sitters I want to hit CC. Sometimes the advantage is just the element of surprise. My (relatively) weak bh lulls opponents into a certain expectation. They don't notice or anticipate my switching hands then WHAM!
 
One of the very few ambidextrous players on the pro tour. Are going to see some more of this in the future? I've always wanted to see it.

^ That was a fun watch-thx. . I once knew a guy (a friend's father who was a former national handball champion) who played with "two forehands" using a cut-down, shortened racquet. The guy was an iron lung and athletic who could run all day and (with his eye/hand skills) more than held his own at the club level even in spite of his little nifty/twisty 60-70 mph serve.​

The uppity opponent in the video (Matosevic) came off like a whiny dork while he choked away the 2nd set and with it the match with his "what luck!" b.s. excuse-making... While unorthodox, skill is still skill...(see: Monica Seles, Poncho Segura's forehand, Gene Mayer, etc.) Would've like to see this same Matosevic chump going into his condescending act while being taken to the cleaners by Fabrice Santoro's "lucky" unorthodox game. Hell even no less a player than Roger Federer had his share of nerve-wracking 7-5 sets with "The Magician."​
 
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Red Rick

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Yep. Gotta have a normal backhand ready for when there is not time to switch.

I hit two forehands in rec tennis, but I only bring my lhfh into the game when there is time to switch and when there is some advantage. Sometimes the advantage is more power and a better angle for sitters I want to hit CC. Sometimes the advantage is just the element of surprise. My (relatively) weak bh lulls opponents into a certain expectation. They don't notice or anticipate my switching hands then WHAM!
Yeah, I can imagine learning to return double handed, and volley with the one hand etc. Smashes should be done with both as surely it's better than a backhand smash.

I've thought a tiny bit about learning it. My left side has all the fine motor skills and my right side has all the gross motor skills. I can crush a ball but have the touch of a stone man.
 
There was a female player in the 1950's who hit forehands on both sides, I can't remember her name, I want to say she was British though, and she did quite well on the tour all things considered.

There are some players who can hit an opposite forehand when pressed out there today, like Sharapova.
Beverly Fleitz? She was American,though.:)

Didnt one of the Jensen brothers serve with either hand?
Yes, "Dual Hand" Luke. At 1:08

 

kabob

Hall of Fame
It's a common misconception that ambidextrous means not having a dominant side and being able to use both equally. Usually, an ambidextrous person does certain tasks with a preference one hand over the other. Rafa Nadal is a perfect example of it, what with his preference for playing left-handed tennis but writes and golfs right-handed.
 

kabob

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Problem is that when neutral either left or right hand will be in better position (at bottom of racquet) So there is still extra time for "switching" to the side of the hand that is on top. I think this is an inefficient way to play and doubt a player could make top 10 (or even 100) playing like this where margins are so slim. Credit to him for making it work this far though.
You can see in the video that he also utilizes a two-handed backhand, not just a forehand on both sides.
 

vive le beau jeu !

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One of the very few ambidextrous players on the pro tour. Are going to see some more of this in the future? I've always wanted to see it.

i'm always impressed by those players... ;)
(especially when i try serving with the other hand !!!)
there was an interesting (old) thread about ambidextrous players:

Goddamn what am I watching????

AaaaaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaaa.
 

guanzishou

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One of the very few ambidextrous players on the pro tour. Are going to see some more of this in the future? I've always wanted to see it.

LOL @ Matosevic! What a loser, he kept on whining about his opponent having two forehands and kept talking and yelling to himself and bossing the ballboys for towel. Very bad attitude.
 

smalahove

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I think both his forehands were very good, and combined with the serve advantage, it is def a mental advantage as you can forget about old patterns playing against such a player.
 

kimguroo

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Looks cool but did he actually win the match in the video? :)
Looks like he lost to D. Lee and won against Matosevic.
It's fun to watch and specially match against D.Lee.
One player plays two forehands and the other player is deaf.
Obviously D.Lee is much better player. Hope he can break through 100 soon but he is a little short....
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

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Problem is that when neutral either left or right hand will be in better position (at bottom of racquet) So there is still extra time for "switching" to the side of the hand that is on top. I think this is an inefficient way to play and doubt a player could make top 10 (or even 100) playing like this where margins are so slim. Credit to him for making it work this far though.
Yeah, great call. Maybe he'd have time to slide the top hand down on clay courts. But probably better off perfecting a one handed backhand.

Brilliant skills regardless!
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
I thought OP was joking about Kim Jong-un.

How old is this guy? looks quite young and seems pretty good. I hope he makes to top 10. That would be interesting. He is a right-hander with 2 handed BH who can hit serves and FH with his left hand. Having slice serves with both right and left hands can be an advantage. Definitely an interesting player to watch.
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

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Then how did you miss seeing that he also hits with a two-handed backhand?
I didn't miss it. But you can get more power and spin out of a one hander, so it would be more similar to having another forehand. In fact in this case probably better, cos his forehand is most likely choked up.
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
I believe this is the next innovation in tennis, true ambidexterity. Imagine switching lefty to righty during a rally seamlessly and with equal power/precision. Would be insane, but I'll believe it when this guy gets ranked top 10.
 
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i'm always impressed by those players... ;)
(especially when i try serving with the other hand !!!)
there was an interesting (old) thread about ambidextrous players:
Yeah, I remember that thread. It was a really good one.

Thanks for bringing it up.

Right 1H FH
Left 1H FH
Right 2H FH
Left 2H FH
Right 1H BH
Left 1H BH
Right 2H BH
Left 2H BH
Right FH Slice
Left FH Slice
Right BH Slice
Left BH Slice
Right Serve
Left Serve

Watching it my brain melted, I wasn't even sure what a forehand and backhand was anymore.

Simon is super super super talented.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, I remember that thread. It was a really good one.

Thanks for bringing it up.

Right 1H FH
Left 1H FH
Right 2H FH
Left 2H FH
Right 1H BH
Left 1H BH
Right 2H BH
Left 2H BH
Right FH Slice
Left FH Slice
Right BH Slice
Left BH Slice
Right Serve
Left Serve

Watching it my brain melted, I wasn't even sure what a forehand and backhand was anymore.

Simon is super super super talented.
Matosevic's brain melted. His comments to himself are too funny...''Two forehands, backhand, it's all bullish*t''
 
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