Chun Hsin TSENG future as a PRO?

[borna coric]

He does not look that tall and is really skinny. He will be 17 years old in a couple of weeks and he does not look physically intimidating to me. Not sure what his diet looks like.

My 16 years old son, through proper diet and physical training 6 hours every day in the summer, looks much more muscular and stronger than this kid.

He is a good player but unless he spends time working on his body, I just don't see how he will be able to make it on the ATP tour.

If you look at Hyeon Chung, he is built like a tank. Yes, there is a 5 years gap between this kid and Chung, but I just don't see it in Tseng.

thoughts?

 

[EloQuent]

and yet, somehow he beat all the big strong kids

 

[jm1980]

Tseng was born on August 8th, 2001, exactly 20 years after Federer.

He also won the boys' title at Wimbledon exactly 20 years after Federer did in 1998.

20 Slams for Tseng confirmed

 

[oldmanfan]

Tseng was born on August 8th, 2001, exactly 20 years after Federer.

He also won the boys title at Wimbledon exactly 20 years after Federer did in 1998.

20 Slams for Tseng confirmed

I know you're joking, but wouldn't that be something?

He does not look that tall and is really skinny. He will be 17 years old in a couple of weeks and he does not look physically intimidating to me. Not sure what his diet looks like.

My 16 years old son, through proper diet and physical training 6 hours every day in the summer, looks much more muscular and stronger than this kid.

He is a good player but unless he spends time working on his body, I just don't see how he will be able to make it on the ATP tour.

If you look at Hyeon Chung, he is built like a tank. Yes, there is a 5 years gap between this kid and Chung, but I just don't see it in Tseng.

thoughts?

You're putting too much weight on.. uh... weight..

Look at Djokovic, then look at Federer, then Nadal.. By your logic, Djokovic shouldn't be beating Federer much, and by the same logic, he should have no chance against Nadal, nor anyone taller and heavier than him like Delpo/Raonic/Cilic/Anderson. Results say otherwise.

Yes Tseng is a bit on the short side, but he's still 5'9" (http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/players/overview/atpt0ap.html), taller than Diego Schwartzman (5'7", 141lbs). Diego is doing pretty well. Also, David Ferrer (5'9", 160lbs) is the same height as Tseng, so the ceiling is pretty high for someone of Tseng's height. Ferrer doesn't look much heavier than Tseng, and since he's only 16, he has plenty of time to bulk up.

 

[borna coric]

In 2005, Donald Young became the youngest year-end World No. 1 in junior rankings ever at 16 years, 5 months (one month younger than Richard Gasquet in 2002). Young won the Australian Open junior title at age 15 to become youngest-ever and first African-American man to be ranked No. 1 in the world. He was also the first American to win the Australian junior title and finish No. 1 since Andy Roddick in 2000. He advanced to the semifinals at Wimbledon and quarterfinals at the US Open in 2005. In doubles, Young won the junior US Open title (with Clayton) and reached the final at the Australian Open (with Thiemo de Bakker). In 2007, he won the Wimbledon junior title and was the first American to win since Scott Humphries in 1994. As No. 1, Young won the Kalamazoo U.S. Junior Championships in 2006, after Jesse Levine forfeited in the finals due to food poisoning.[7]

DY is 6ft and much stronger than Tseng at 17 years old. DY is currently ranked 232. I could be wrong but I don't see much of a future for Tseng in the top 20.

 

[Smurph]

give him a chance. He played young Korda very well in the AUS Jr final and Korda is sort of a giraffe.

Until these players start playing in the big leagues, it is a mystery. both junior players impressed me on Sunday.

 

[Booger]

Traditionally, it has been very difficult for asian males to make it in the pro game despite a ton of a talented juniors. He's going to have to be a top tier grinder.

He better get on Nadal's "vitamin program" wink wink.

 

[oldmanfan]

In 2005, Donald Young became the youngest year-end World No. 1 in junior rankings ever at 16 years, 5 months (one month younger than Richard Gasquet in 2002). Young won the Australian Open junior title at age 15 to become youngest-ever and first African-American man to be ranked No. 1 in the world. He was also the first American to win the Australian junior title and finish No. 1 since Andy Roddick in 2000. He advanced to the semifinals at Wimbledon and quarterfinals at the US Open in 2005. In doubles, Young won the junior US Open title (with Clayton) and reached the final at the Australian Open (with Thiemo de Bakker). In 2007, he won the Wimbledon junior title and was the first American to win since Scott Humphries in 1994. As No. 1, Young won the Kalamazoo U.S. Junior Championships in 2006, after Jesse Levine forfeited in the finals due to food poisoning.[7]

DY is 6ft and much stronger than Tseng at 17 years old. DY is currently ranked 232. I could be wrong but I don't see much of a future for Tseng in the top 20.

Keep in mind that we're all speculating bc it's fun to discuss.

With regards to DY, I think part of his lack of success is that he was too caught up in the hype surrounding him (I read some time back that he didn't focus on training/practice much, traveled with too many family/friends, just not 'focused' on the tennis in general). He looks very 'buff' now, but doesn't seem to have too much stamina. DY looks similar in physique to Nadal, but he's nowhere near Nadal's resilience on court even when we exclude their tennis-levels.
Honestly, I think DY should be a much better than his results suggest, but it looks like his work ethics is to blame, and by extension, DY is to blame. I'm not saying DY is the same level of talent as Federer, but had Federer not changed his work ethics around age 20-22, he might've been not much different than DY, as crazy as that sounds.

As for Tseng, I haven't watched enough of his play to have a real handle on his future potential. Some posters that have followed him said that his game-IQ is well beyond his years. He knows how to work the points. Your DY's pre-pro stats are good (thanks for that), but he didnt win 2/3 junior slams in the same year, with a Finals in the 3rd, with one junior slam still to be played. I think Monfils won 2 junior slams in the same year before turning pro?

I'm not saying that Tseng will reach top-4 like Ferrer did, but top-20 to top-40 is possible. Tennis as a job and as a passion, top-40 is pretty amazing. If I were in his shoes, I'd take that, and you probably would too.

 

[jaggy]

Best prediction on these forums yet, i'm off to bet my life savings on it tomorrow

 

[70後]

CH's goal, according to a Taiwan news site, is Nishikori. Maybe that isn't a too good idea with all Nish's infamous pullouts, I'm sure CH doesn't quite mean that. But he feels they play similar. They certainly do. If CH can have a Nish like level, not bad.

This is CH's mum meeting him at the airport after his return from Wimbledon.

Mom wasn't courtside. She was tending the stall back home. His parents sacrificed a lot for him, for his tennis, his training and everything, so I'm so happy for them.

 

[reaper]

Tseng was born on August 8th, 2001, exactly 20 years after Federer.

He also won the boys' title at Wimbledon exactly 20 years after Federer did in 1998.

20 Slams for Tseng confirmed

8th of August seems to be the magic birthday. Felix Auger Aliassime shares that birthday too.

 

[70後]

He does not look that tall and is really skinny. He will be 17 years old in a couple of weeks and he does not look physically intimidating to me. Not sure what his diet looks like.

My 16 years old son, through proper diet and physical training 6 hours every day in the summer, looks much more muscular and stronger than this kid.

He is a good player but unless he spends time working on his body, I just don't see how he will be able to make it on the ATP tour.

If you look at Hyeon Chung, he is built like a tank. Yes, there is a 5 years gap between this kid and Chung, but I just don't see it in Tseng.

thoughts?

3 years ago Tseng was 5'2''/5'3'', he is 17 and 5'9'' now. If he can add another inch and half, would be good. At least not smaller than Nishikori. His parents run a candied fruit stall, but Tseng's diet is supposedly quite strict, his parents did their best to make sure he had more meat in his diet, he isn't allowed to eat anything sweet or anything with sugar in it.

I'm dreading all the injuries that are coming, for him, for anybody who turns pro. Lets see if he survives all that physical damage when he goes pro next year.

Chung is built enormous and muscular. With his height, he should have a great serve. But he doesn't, he has a junkball serve. So technique is more important, imo.

 

[Forehand_Slice]

An inch shorter than his idol, and doesn't have the forehand firepower of young Nishikori.
Though he's a pretty solid ballstriker. No big serve but moves and defends quite well.
Can't see why he can't have success on the Challenger tour.

Transition to main tour will be much harder. Have to see how much bulk he can get.

 

[70後]

del-

 

[borna coric]

3 years ago Tseng was 5'2''/5'3'', he is 17 and 5'9'' now. If he can add another inch and half, would be good. At least not smaller than Nishikori. His parents run a candied fruit stall, but Tseng's diet is supposedly quite strict, his parents did their best to make sure he had more meat in his diet, he isn't allowed to eat anything sweet or anything with sugar in it.

I'm dreading all the injuries that are coming, for him, for anybody who turns pro. Lets see if he survives all that physical damage when he goes pro next year.

My wife and my kids, along with my sisters, were at Wimbledon for two weeks to watch the tournament and they also watched Tseng matches. My son was very surprised that he is a bit taller and more muscular than Tseng (my son is 16 years old with 5ft 10" in height and 160lbs in weight but his body fat percentage is 9%).

I don't know what Tseng diet is like but my son eats 3lbs of meat everyday at dinner time. Chicken on Monday/Thursday. Beef on Tuesday/Friday. Salmon on Wed/Saturday and lobster on Sunday. He also eats a lot of veggie such as Broccoli, cauliflower, carrot through out the day. His favorite drink is smoothie loaded with Avocado, strawberries, banana and berries. Because he trains 6 hours everyday, he needs about 6000 good calories intake, according to the trainer, to maintain the weigh and also build the muscle mass at the same time. Is my son going to be as good as Tseng? Absolute NOT, but there is no shame in trying

I hope Tseng can take good care of himself. Otherwise, he will just become another Noah Rubin.

 

[EloQuent]

My wife and my kids, along with my sisters, were at Wimbledon for two weeks to watch the tournament and they also watched Tseng matches. My son was very surprised that he is a bit taller and more muscular than Tseng (my son is 16 years old with 5ft 10" in height and 160lbs in weight but his body fat percentage is 9%).

I don't know what Tseng diet is like but my son eats 3lbs of meat everyday at dinner time. Chicken on Monday/Thursday. Beef on Tuesday/Friday. Salmon on Wed/Saturday and lobster on Sunday. He also eats a lot of veggie such as Broccoli, cauliflower, carrot through out the day. His favorite drink is smoothie loaded with Avocado, strawberries, banana and berries. Because he trains 6 hours everyday, he needs about 6000 good calories intake, according to the trainer, to maintain the weigh and also build the muscle mass at the same time. Is my son going to be as good as Tseng? Absolute NOT, but there is no shame in trying

I hope Tseng can take good care of himself. Otherwise, he will just become another Noah Rubin.

Tennis players don't need to be bodybuilders. Just look at Federer and Djokovic.

 

[borna coric]

Tennis players don't need to be bodybuilders. Just look at Federer and Djokovic.

You do not need to be body builders but you need to be very strong. See below. Tseng needs to take Nadal "vitamin" water or go visit Lance Armstrong's doctor. Wink Wink

 

[G4P45]

His serve is not that good. In men's tennis, it's almost impossible to win slams with average or below average serve. I want to see top men's tennis player from mainland China.

 

[jm1980]

His serve is not that good. In men's tennis, it's almost impossible to win slams with average or below average serve. I want to see top men's tennis player from mainland China.

Murray won three Slams with a terrible 2nd serve

 

[uscwang]

Last year, Wu Yibing from China won the boys singles AND doubles title at USO. He then turned pro and is 2-2 so far in 2018.
From junior level to pro tour is a big step.

 

[borna coric]

Murray won three Slams with a terrible 2nd serve

Terrible 2nd serve as compared to who? I'll take Murray's 2nd serve over any ATP players 2nd server outside of the top 10.

 

[G4P45]

Murray's fastest serve is 141mph which is far better than even the world record of women's. His second serve is not bad.

 

[borna coric]

Murray is also built like a beast. That's how he wins multiple GS.