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Unfathomable. 1 and 4 ? Did I miss Isner playing like 06 Fed??
Chung had no business returning Isner’s serve yesterday. He even struggled with the 2nd ones badly, huge kickers hit above head level barely got to mid-court to Isner. Chungs on serve was even more terrible than usual, and he was very very shaky even from the baseline which usually is his bread and butter.
Except:I think Isner had beaten just about everyone at one time or another.
Isner always hit huge serves. Isner has one of slowest movement on the tour so either he hit junk balls/blocking balls back to opponents or hit 50% chance aggressive shots for winner.
Many opponents who are successful to Isner, they have decent service games and hang tight then looking for isner’s mistakes.
When Chung plays Isner, he does not have same game strategy like other opponents beause he does not have good serves. It does not matter Chung can win 8 of 10 groundstroke points against Isner. Isner hold his service games but Chung could not have easy service games. Isner’s game plan can be more flexible than chung. Hit good serves and either hit junk balls/ blocking balls or Going for winner whether he misses it or not. If he misses those balls, it’s totally fine. Isner can just hold his service game.
Exactly it happened today. I don’t remember Isner had trouble in his service games. It was easy for him.
For chung, he was up 40-15 but still can’t close games. Early break will give him more pressure on his game. Missing many shots than usual from Isner’s blocking/junk balls.
Chung played 4 matches with Isner and won one match in this year. All 4 matches were exactly same.
When Chung won the match in this year, his service game was decent and it was very tight three set match. The match could go either way.
Chung can’t go deeper unless he improves his serve. His height is listed as 6’-2” but someone might claim he might be 6’-3” but usual serve speed of 115mph for the first serves are not enough.
Chung might be the slowest serve player ever among over 6’-1” players.
Like 50,000 other people you overrate Chung. He is your average garden variety top 10-20 player (like Tipsarevic for example). I seem to remember I trolled you heavily in the past and you (incorrectly) asserted I was "crazy" and a "psycho".
Nah, his movement is something special. Allow him to grow.Like 50,000 other people you overrate Chung. He is your average garden variety top 10-20 player (like Tipsarevic for example). I seem to remember I trolled you heavily in the past and you (incorrectly) asserted I was "crazy" and a "psycho".
Most top tier baseliners with a defensive game (Murray being your best modern example) were fully flourishing top 5-10 players by his age. He only has so much potential.Nah, his movement is something special. Allow him to grow.
Yeah, his barely-there-Most top tier baseliners with a defensive game (Murray being your best modern example) were fully flourishing top 5-10 players by his age. He only has so much potential.
I expect a drop next year in the rankings and a later resurgence, but he will never be anything besides what I described in my honest opinion.
Isner's BP conversion against Murray is really a sight to behold - 1/41 in 8 matches, could well be a record. Just GOATray things
Sure he does. That doesn't make the stat any less amazing. It would be ordinary if Murray simply almost never allowed Isner to get to BPs, but Isner has actually been good enough to force multiple BPs in every match they played, but Murray just kept raising his level every time to save 40 of them.Murray plays great against big servers. That is why he won the Wimbledon in 2016 against Raonic.
That’s what I thought and watched his old video (around 15-17). Looks like his toss was lower than now and he tossed ball way more inside than now. Probably those did not work so Neville might be experimenting with higher toss and less into court??? But unfortunately seems like it’s not working. Probably he should take next step or dramatically change his serving motion. It might take time but it will reward him more for his future.He needs to fix that toss on the serve. Lower it. Actually more like Tiafoe. Their motions are similar but Francis has a lower toss and doesn't have to pause and wait for it to drop.