Cirstea on Konta: "Next time I am in trouble I will cry too"

[tennis_pro]

You tell her.

http://www.**************.org/news/...ta-next-time-i-am-in-trouble-i-will-cry-too-/

'I am not happy", Cirstea said. 'Johanna, speaking tennis wise, she was better than me today. My problem was, and I still do not understand, why the match was stopped at 2-1. I did not hear what Ilie said, I understand you take Ilie out, perfect. Then we play another game, I win it, and then suddenly you started crying and let’s go off the court. I’ve played all over the world, they called me from gypsy to ***** to a***hole to idiot. They were doing like (mimes slitting throat) to me. I never cried and left the court, I stay there and I play.'

 

[tennisaddict]

I cannot believe a grown up woman wailing like that because someone in the crowd hurled abuse. Guess Konta is emotionally a 5 year old or a great actress.

Karma is a ***** and it was wonderful that Britain was shown the door.

 

[PittsburghDad]

Who won the match?

 

[Mainad]

Lol...just listen to yourselves! Nastase makes a foul-mouthed insult at a visiting player, upsets her, and its all somehow HER fault???

Instead of apologising like any normal team would do and being thoroughly ashamed that they actually put someone like HIM in charge of their team, embarrassing themselves in front of the entire world, they are all busy blaming Konta and Team GB for daring to get upset at their OWN CAPTAIN's appalling behaviour!!!

Do me a favour....puhhlleeasse!!!

 

[Krish872007]

The officials took the decision to stop play for 25 mins too - not even Konta's call. One player reacted better to the break than the other did, that's pretty much it

 

[PittsburghDad]

I guess some people just grew up differently. Where I come from in life, when an idiot hurls verbal abuse and profanity at a woman, you don't rush to blame the woman for her response. The court officials felt the same.

 

[sarmpas]

Meanwhile Nastase's boorish behaviour is not discussed as much.

 

[tennisaddict]

The predictable diversion here to what Nastase did.

The crying episode happens a full 2 games after Nastase was ejected. The crying started not at 1-1 but when Konta went down 1-3.

Fantastic that Britain cannot make it to World group for 25 years in Fed cup. Why don't they ask Andy Murray's help. He will fit right in with all his whining.

I am very happy for Halep and Romania.

 

[Chadillac]

I guess some people just grew up differently. Where I come from in life, when an idiot hurls verbal abuse and profanity at a woman, you don't rush to blame the woman for her response.

You run to a safe space and cry for 25mins?

Where i come from, when an idiot says something, i dont listen, because they are an idiot

 

[Poisoned Slice]

 

[PittsburghDad]

You run to a safe space and cry for 25mins?

Where i come from, when an idiot says something, i dont listen, because they are an idiot

Well thank goodness. I'm glad you're tough enough. Hold your head high.

 

[Chadillac]

Well thank goodness. I'm glad you're tough enough. Hold your head high.

Sticks and stones, no need to be tough, they are words

 

[PittsburghDad]

Sticks and stones, no need to be tough, they are words

You're quite a gentleman. Be proud.

 

[sarmpas]

Nastase's been banned http://uk.reuters.com/article/tennis-fedcup-rom-gbr-idUKL4N1HV0DI

I wonder if he'll get VIP access this year at the FO and Wimbledon.

 

[Legend of Borg]

I guess some people just grew up differently. Where I come from in life, when an idiot hurls verbal abuse and profanity at a woman, you don't rush to blame the woman for her response. The court officials felt the same.

you grew up with chivalry and "white knighting" females?

 

[PittsburghDad]

you grew up with chivalry and "white knighting" females?

What does that even mean? No. I grew up with not rushing to blame a girl for her reaction when being verbally abused by a man. Is this difficult? Honestly thought it was straightforward.

 

[Legend of Borg]

What does that even mean? No. I grew up with not rushing to blame a girl for her reaction when being verbally abused by a man. Is this difficult? Honestly thought it was straightforward.

from the way you wrote that it kinda sounded very 19th century "challenge the other man to the duel of the death" sort of chivalry crap

do you stand up for anyone that's in a disadvantaged situation in public or do you only stand up for women?

 

[PrinceMoron]

Lots of discussion here on who the GOAT is. No doubt who the old goat is.


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[PrinceMoron]

Nastase's been banned http://uk.reuters.com/article/tennis-fedcup-rom-gbr-idUKL4N1HV0DI

I wonder if he'll get VIP access this year at the FO and Wimbledon.

With his haircut or lack of he is very easy to spot. He always sits in the same seat and then hangs around the members' balcony. He will get the welcome he deserves.

He did send flowers by way of apology but needs to man up and face the Press at Wimbledon.


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[sarmpas]

With his haircut or lack of he is very easy to spot. He always sits in the same seat and then hangs around the members' balcony. He will get the welcome he deserves.

He did send flowers by way of apology but needs to man up and face the Press at Wimbledon.


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[SpinToWin]

Lol...just listen to yourselves! Nastase makes a foul-mouthed insult at a visiting player, upsets her, and its all somehow HER fault???

Some intellecutal honesty: No, it's not her fault that Nastase said those things, but her disrupting the match for 20 minutes(?) 2 games later is her fault (at the very least partly). She surely could (and one can argue that she should) have handled it better.

Instead of apologising like any normal team would do and being thoroughly ashamed that they actually put someone like HIM in charge of their team, embarrassing themselves in front of the entire world, they are all busy blaming Konta and Team GB for daring to get upset at their OWN CAPTAIN's appalling behaviour!!!

Many things can be true at once. Romania can be brain dead for recommending him to the position. Konta can have handled it poorly. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Everybody deserves some blame in all of this, cause it was handled very poorly.

Do me a favour....puhhlleeasse!!!

You're welcome

 

[Mainad]

Some intellecutal honesty: No, it's not her fault that Nastase said those things, but her disrupting the match for 20 minutes(?) 2 games later is her fault (at the very least partly). She surely could (and one can argue that she should) have handled it better.

It really depends on what he actually said to her. Maybe she was being over-sensitive but that's her privilege and, I repeat, SHE didn't disrupt the match, Nastase did. He's a past master at trickery and gamesmanship and almost certainly knew precisely what he was doing.

Many things can be true at once. Romania can be brain dead for recommending him to the position. Konta can have handled it poorly. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Everybody deserves some blame in all of this, cause it was handled very poorly.

Call me old-fashioned but I prefer to place the blame where it actually started.

You're welcome

Thank you.

 

[PittsburghDad]

from the way you wrote that it kinda sounded very 19th century "challenge the other man to the duel of the death" sort of chivalry crap

do you stand up for anyone that's in a disadvantaged situation in public or do you only stand up for women?

I'm not sure not taking issue with the reaction of a woman who's being profanely and personally yelled at in her workplace in front of 20K people, by a man who has no right to even be on the court, in an extremely high pressure situation, is "19 th century chivalry crap", but ok. I think that's just not being an a*****e.

And I guess that I never thought about every single situation in which I would stand up for somebody. Like most humans I just sort of react to right and wrong in an appropriate way and try to be decent. And I'm not "standing up for her." I'm on a MB just like you. And I'm expressing my opinion that its pretty ridiculous to lay the blame for how this played out on Johanna Konta. She didn't ask for this.

Like most 1/2 way decent guys, yes, I have a reaction to seeing any woman screamed at and called a "f****** b****." Until she cries. But this isn't the end of the world. From here on the entire world will think Ille Nastase and think about the crazy old man making a spectacle of himself. Not the tennis champion. Konta will recover. She will be cheered even louder from now on.

I just am finding it funny when people see what happenned and respond with, "OMG. How can they give her TWENTY MINUTES. GAMESMANSHIP. HOW DARE SHE?" I mean, thats kind of crazy. But whatever.

And its even funnier when people tell her to "get tough". From behind a keyboard. She's tough enough to be a world class athlete. And do the work. And live that dream.

 

[SpinToWin]

It really depends on what he actually said to her. Maybe she was being over-sensitive but that's her privilege and, I repeat, SHE didn't disrupt the match, Nastase did. He's a past master at trickery and gamesmanship and almost certainly knew precisely what he was doing.

Truth is that Cirstea does encounter disgusting stuff on the regular. She handles it rather well (perhaps because she is used to it). Konta didn't. Cirstea's criticism from that perspective is understandable. I do believe that she spoke (rather very negatively) about Nastase too though, didn't she? Some nuance goes a long way in these instances.

Call me old-fashioned but I prefer to place the blame where it actually started.

I like to place blame on the perpetrator and point out the mistakes of anyone involved. That's because I believe that people should learn from their mistakes wherever possible. I don't wish what happened to Konta to anybody, but I still believe that there is something to be learned from this.

 

[Brave New World]

Let's not bash Konta and judge how she should or shouldn't react within the pressure cooker and when someone like Nastase has hurled uncalled-for insults. Perhaps she should be stronger but there's a variety of personalities and character's out there; the sport, like life,can accommodate them all, I'm sure. She apologised, put the emotions behind her in the end etc. I'm sure she would have wanted to have handled it better in hindsight, and will in the future.

The best team won in the end because they played the better matches and have a team with greater depth. Halep deserves applause, handled the whole thing very well as far as I can see.

Nastase we can all agree on being a grade A ****. Time to step up for a public apology; sending flowers, come on man, weak attempt at reconciliation is weak.

 

[tennisaddict]

Konta should be sending flowers to Sorana as well.

 

[PrinceMoron]

Cry if I want to, cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you

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[Legend of Borg]

i don't think this was konta's fault but i have some really sour memories of her taking a 20 minute bathroom break after collapsing on court during last year's USO and then coming back fresh as spring chicken to easily sweep the match

that was some shady sh1t

 

[Fedfan34]

People's reactions are ridiculous. A player was insulted while in a foreign country playing in front of a foreign crowd insulted by the hosting country's captain in apparently very humiliating terms. That breaches conduct in ways that most players aren't even equipped to handle because they don't consider the possibility of it happening. Ump should step in and give Cirstea a break too while Konta regroups herself. Tennis is mental. Someone gets in your head it's a big deal.

 

[tennis_pro]

People's reactions are ridiculous. A player was insulted while in a foreign country playing in front of a foreign crowd insulted by the hosting country's captain in apparently very humiliating terms. That breaches conduct in ways that most players aren't even equipped to handle because they don't consider the possibility of it happening. Ump should step in and give Cirstea a break too while Konta regroups herself. Tennis is mental. Someone gets in your head it's a big deal.

This is not the problem. They played an entire game (which Cirstea won) after which Konta started crying. I guess Konta's breakdown took 10 minutes to load.

 

[Fedfan34]

This is not the problem. They played an entire game (which Cirstea won) after which Konta started crying. I guess Konta's breakdown took 10 minutes to load.

Maybe it did. Sometimes things hit you after you process them.

 

[Latetothegame]

This is not the problem. They played an entire game (which Cirstea won) after which Konta started crying. I guess Konta's breakdown took 10 minutes to load.

You did not watch the match? Because if you did, you would understand, that The match had already been interrupted before that game because of Natase's ugly Beheviour, that's where it started and was totally unfair on the player who was in a strong position.

 

[PittsburghDad]

Maybe it did. Sometimes things hit you after you process them.

yep. Especially in an unprecedented situation.

 

[PittsburghDad]

People's reactions are ridiculous. A player was insulted while in a foreign country playing in front of a foreign crowd insulted by the hosting country's captain in apparently very humiliating terms. That breaches conduct in ways that most players aren't even equipped to handle because they don't consider the possibility of it happening. Ump should step in and give Cirstea a break too while Konta regroups herself. Tennis is mental. Someone gets in your head it's a big deal.

Again. Yep. I love the comments on here that are basically, "well thats just the game", or "you face adversity in tennis". Other than Monica getting stabbed name me a situation where anything close to this has happened. A man was ON THE COURT calling a woman in the middle of her competition a "f****** b*****." How is that a tennis situation? It's not. It's intimidating, it's unsettling and its so far out of bounds its impossible to argue that shes a tennis player in that situation that needs to "toughen up." She's being screamed at.

 

[PittsburghDad]

Ahh, next time, click the users name you were talking to and click "start conversation".

I'm cool. He already responded and the answer was no, he has not played in front of the public no matter how much he seems able to give advice to people that do or the fact that you seem to think that somebody's user name is an alternate form of ironclad ID. I did get a fun and unnecessary mention of his knee injury though. So I've got that going for me.

 

[Chadillac]

Again. Yep. I love the comments on here that are basically, "well thats just the game", or "you face adversity in tennis". Other than Monica getting stabbed name me a situation where anything close to this has happened. A man was ON THE COURT calling a woman in the middle of her competition a "f****** b*****." How is that a tennis situation? It's not. It's intimidating, it's unsettling and its so far out of bounds its impossible to argue that shes a tennis player in that situation that needs to "toughen up." She's being screamed at.

Kryios vs Fed in miami (and im fed fan). It was really really bad, more offensive than a couple names.

 

[Bartelby]

People of a certain persuasion love thugs however hard they try (sometimes) to disguise it. It makes their own impotence tolerable when they see Nastase brutalise women.

 

[PittsburghDad]

Kryios vs Fed in miami (and im fed fan). It was really really bad, more offensive than a couple names.

G in Kyrgios. And you can NOT BE SERIOUS comparing that incident. You're clowning on yourself right?

 

[Steve0904]

Kryios vs Fed in miami (and im fed fan). It was really really bad, more offensive than a couple names.

Yeah, and you saw how that got to Kyrgios. He was about to break down in tears after he lost the match as well. At least Konta won this one. Not to mention that the 2 situations are not remotely comparable.

 

[Latetothegame]

GB were always going to struggle to win this tie, everyone knew that, Romaina had the better overall team, espically with home advantage on Clay,Natase was just a complete A**rse because he still lives in the era where he thinks intimidation is the way to go
I cannot tell you how disappointed I feel, for me growing up watching tennis, I loved him he was my favourite player.
the Romiana players are just trying to salvage something from themselves, Attack is the best form of defence, it did not have to be like that, they were perfectly capable of winning without all this rubbish.
But to blame Jo konta is totally out of order.

 

[rodan1957]

Lol...just listen to yourselves! Nastase makes a foul-mouthed insult at a visiting player, upsets her, and its all somehow HER fault???

Instead of apologising like any normal team would do and being thoroughly ashamed that they actually put someone like HIM in charge of their team, embarrassing themselves in front of the entire world, they are all busy blaming Konta and Team GB for daring to get upset at their OWN CAPTAIN's appalling behaviour!!!

Do me a favour....puhhlleeasse!!!

If she faked it then she should be called out on it - Fakery happens in tennis all too often and its sophisticated deception and yes it is cheating

 

[Bartelby]

So are you claiming she faked it?

If she faked it then she should be called out on it - Fakery happens in tennis all too often and its sophisticated deception and yes it is cheating

 

[Chadillac]

G in Kyrgios. And you can NOT BE SERIOUS comparing that incident. You're clowning on yourself right?

One person calling your two names vs a stadium cheering missed first serves and easy ue's for the whole match? I guess were very different, the krygios situation would bother a lot more as a player.

Have you ever played college tennis? Stuff is common.

She played two games (lost both) and then started crying, she has a history of doing these things. Plays the victim and the suckers line up.

 

[jon70]

For those who think focusing on Konta is getting away from the main issue - Nastase - what he did sounds like an emotional blowup. Uncalled for and unacceptable, but red-blooded. If Konta used it to her advantage, that's WTA-style cold-bloodedness, and very much worthy of discussion.

 

[PittsburghDad]

One person calling your two names vs a stadium cheering missed first serves and easy ue's for the whole match? I guess were very different, the krygios situation would bother a lot more as a player.

Have you ever played college tennis? Stuff is common.

She played two games (lost both) and then started crying, she has a history of doing these things. Plays the victim and the suckers line up.

Dude I pretty much think this was done at "The Kyrgios-Fed situation was so much worse." You get a standing eight count for that one. But you played college tennis??!! I apologize, I had no idea. That makes your incredibly ludicrous to 99.99% of the world opinion so much better! I stand corrected. Of course you've never spent one day in the pressure cooker of the ATP or WTA. Nor in the extra juice of a Fed Cup or Davis Cup. Or had a former tennis legend roll onto the court to call you names in an attempt to intimidate. But you played college tennis so......

 

[Bartelby]

So being a thug is just being 'red-blooded' and suffering from a thug is called being 'cold-blooded' in your inverted universe?

Nastase - what he did sounds like an emotional blowup. Uncalled for and unacceptable, but red-blooded. If Konta used it to her advantage, that's WTA-style cold-bloodedness, and very much worthy of discussion.

 

[Bartelby]

So someone is subjected to foul abuse and they are playing the victim, according to your inverted universe?

She played two games (lost both) and then started crying, she has a history of doing these things. Plays the victim and the suckers line up.

 

[Chadillac]

Dude I pretty much think this was done at "The Kyrgios-Fed situation was so much worse." You get a standing eight count for that one. But you played college tennis??!! I apologize, I had no idea. That makes your incredibly ludicrous to 99.99% of the world opinion so much better! I stand corrected. Of course you've never spent one day in the pressure cooker of the ATP or WTA. Nor in the extra juice of a Fed Cup or Davis Cup. Or had a former tennis legend roll onto the court to call you names in an attempt to intimidate. But you played college tennis so......

You have a knack for missing the point. Best of luck to your kid, they are going to need it with you around.

So someone is subjected to foul abuse and they are playing the victim, according to your inverted universe?

Suckers line up, i think you just proved my point.

 

[sarmpas]

For those who think focusing on Konta is getting away from the main issue - Nastase - what he did sounds like an emotional blowup. Uncalled for and unacceptable, but red-blooded. If Konta used it to her advantage, that's WTA-style cold-bloodedness, and very much worthy of discussion.

I like how the perpetrator is excused while Konta on the receiving end of his boorish behaviour is apparently at fault for not naturally reacting more defiantly.

 

[killerboi2]

One person calling your two names vs a stadium cheering missed first serves and easy ue's for the whole match? I guess were very different, the krygios situation would bother a lot more as a player.

Have you ever played college tennis? Stuff is common.

She played two games (lost both) and then started crying, she has a history of doing these things. Plays the victim and the suckers line up.

I agree that Kyrgios' situation in Miami would have been much harder to deal with. When one person is yelling at you it's no big deal. I'm sure a lot of us have probably been in situations where one guy was yelling/swearing at us on court for a few seconds. Happens at club level fairly often and even as a kid it didn't bother me much. Fanatic parents, coaches, etc happens all the time. A big crowd like against you on obscene levels though - still no excuse to cry or anything but that would be much, much harder to deal with

 

[PittsburghDad]

One person calling your two names vs a stadium cheering missed first serves and easy ue's for the whole match? I guess were very different, the krygios situation would bother a lot more as a player.

Have you ever played college tennis? Stuff is common.

She played two games (lost both) and then started crying, she has a history of doing these things. Plays the victim and the suckers line up.

You have a knack for missing the point. Best of luck to your kid, they are going to need it with you around.



Suckers line up, i think you just proved my point.

Stay classy. I think this thread will be plenty enough proof of where your heads' at. It happens on a MB though. You can't roll up to real people in life and go "Hey isn't this Nastase thing wild! Not nearly as crazy as Kyrgios-Fed in Miami though. Amirite or what?" Maybe you should though. The honest reactions of people laughing at you may help clear up this delusion you have. I mean that's not a legitimate comparison in among any real folk.