Clash 98: underrated racquet of 2019.

WillGinRVA

New User
I think I’m liking my 300SW 18x20 v7 Blade over my 292SW Clash 98. The Blade seems to allow me to hit lower, shallower cross court shots with my eastern forehand. It may also feel a little less vague as to how I’ve struck the ball.
 

Keoni068

Rookie
How do you guys have your racquets weighted up, and what’s your final weight? I feel like it’s a little light at stock weight and would swing better closer to 12oz.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
How do you guys have your racquets weighted up, and what’s your final weight? I feel like it’s a little light at stock weight and would swing better closer to 12oz.
Just an overgrip on mine. I do use a 1.35 or 1.30 poly though so that adds some SW vs a 17g poly.
 


Can’t wait to try this guy out today. The wife thinks it’s for when she improves enough to switch from the Clash 100 to something with more control, which can technically still be true from a certain point of view....

I’m also a racquetholic enjoying being a free agent since ending a 15 year exclusive relationship with the PS90 a little less than a year ago.


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mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
The Clash series will wither away just like the open pattern spin tech. I give your Clash 98 fling 6 months top ;-)
The open pattern spin tech was gimmicky for a couple of reasons.

1. more advanced players with solid technique don’t rely on an open pattern to generate spin
2. strings life and breakage was a real issue for more advanced players who hit harder and do generate spin

Clash tech isn’t gimmicky. It is adding comfort to racquets that were previously stiff and potentially hard on the joints. Clash FreeFlex tech has already found its way into the Blade lineup.
 
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BBender716

Semi-Pro


Can’t wait to try this guy out today. The wife thinks it’s for when she improves enough to switch from the Clash 100 to something with more control, which can technically still be true from a certain point of view....

I’m also a racquetholic enjoying being a free agent since ending a 15 year exclusive relationship with the PS90 a little less than a year ago.


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I pulled the "it's for my wife" strategy, too. Better this than the Phantom 93p for her to start her tennis with!

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DJ-

Hall of Fame
How do you guys have your racquets weighted up, and what’s your final weight? I feel like it’s a little light at stock weight and would swing better closer to 12oz.
I have tried a few different setups, but just a little lead (2gr) split between 10 and 2 o'clock works best for me, and this is now permanent. 336gr total with power pads included.
Second fave I tried was lead on the inside of the throat 1gr each side and also 1gr each at 3 and 9 o'clock, this setup also played nice and was great for doubles.
 
I pulled the "it's for my wife" strategy, too. Better this than the Phantom 93p for her to start her tennis with!

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Oh for sure, there’s at least 5 good racquets I can think of on the path between the Clash and the phantom! Better to start off with a few same spec 16x19 and 18x20 Angell TC95’s & 97’s of different length, otherwise you’ll never really know if she’s missing out on free spin and power. And it’s just blatantly irresponsible if you don’t have a Pro Kennex standing by in case she gets arm pain. /s


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djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Tried this am and still finding it difficult to leave my Yonex VCORE Pro 97 :/

Something about the thick beam and muted feel (I guess?)
Vcp97 is a great frame. Don’t leave that.
I really wanted the clash to work but just didn’t feel connected to it. The vcp97 is on my radar to try one day. I’m currently having a good time with the blade 18m and the tf40 305. Blade is slowly edging the other out but might also be fresh versus dead strings
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I really wanted the clash to work but just didn’t feel connected to it. The vcp97 is on my radar to try one day. I’m currently having a good time with the blade 18m and the tf40 305. Blade is slowly edging the other out but might also be fresh versus dead strings
For me the Vcp97 310 is still one of the best 16/19 sticks and the blade 18/20 works better than the Tf40 across the board.
 

blai212

Professional
For me the Vcp97 310 is still one of the best 16/19 sticks and the blade 18/20 works better than the Tf40 across the board.
why does nobody have love for the vcp 100? maybe i jus suck but i cant seem to consistently hit sweetspot with vcp97 and id say im 4.5 level...


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FedGR

Semi-Pro
2nd test on Thursday and 3rd test earlier today, both singles. Again, good results. On Thursday, I really liked it. Played really well against solid player, today I started playing with the 2015 Blade first, then switched to the Clash and couldn't play with it at all. But this is definitely user error so need to try it more.

Additional thoughts are that the racket has more feedback that I initially thought. The feel isn't fantastic with Yonex PTS but , to my surprise, I was able to hit some touch shots very naturally with it. Ball pocketing is there and you know what the ball is doing in the stringbed even if feel isn't ideal. Kinda hard to describe atm honestly, a bit confused.

Nice spin and pace but has anyone noticed lack of court penetration? And if yes, how did you solve it? I feel that after the bounce the ball doesn't accelerate hard and it kinda "sits" there.
 

tonylg

Hall of Fame
Nice spin and pace but has anyone noticed lack of court penetration? And if yes, how did you solve it? I feel that after the bounce the ball doesn't accelerate hard and it kinda "sits" there.
The guy I played last night said exactly the opposite. 3/4 pace kick serves coming through heavy above his shoulders and balls I thought were just average rally balls he said were pushing him around to the point he changed racquets. At net it's stupidly easy to hit penetrating volleys. He's a good player too.

What have you come from? For me, the racquet has so much power I have to be careful not to be lazy and still put a decent swing on it.
 

FedGR

Semi-Pro
The guy I played last night said exactly the opposite. 3/4 pace kick serves coming through heavy above his shoulders and balls I thought were just average rally balls he said were pushing him around to the point he changed racquets. At net it's stupidly easy to hit penetrating volleys. He's a good player too.

What have you come from? For me, the racquet has so much power I have to be careful not to be lazy and still put a decent swing on it.
It is interesting that you have exactly the opposite experience. I agree on the fact that you cannot be lazy with it otherwise everything will be 3 feet long. To be more exact, I personally felt the ball was jumping more up and "staying there" than jumping forward and taking time off my opponent. Or maybe my opponent played really really well, some times it's tough to tell.

I come from a 2015 Blade 98 18x20 and a G360 Speed MP. More tests to be conducted.
 

dawwe

New User
I'm using a 13.5oz prestige mp.

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Wow. That's a really really heavy racquet. I'm also playing with a "heavy-ish" MP Touch, static weight strung 363 g, swingweight 383 g. Balance is even to slightly head-heavy. I can't imagine what balance-point your racquet has because I don't see any real point in adding around 40 g without significantly changing the balance point. You must be monster-strong because serving with 383 g must for sure be quite demanding.
 

Dags

Hall of Fame
The cosmetics… well, it’s not a paint job for the ages. I get that Wilson have done their standardised branding thing, so all they have to play with is colour. I can only imagine the conversation with the designers went something like this:

‘New racquet guys! Pick a colour.’
‘Red.’
‘Blue.’
‘Green.’
‘Black.’
‘White.’
‘Nope, all those are gone. We need a new one.’
‘What’s this line called?’
‘Clash. What does Clash say to you?’
‘Well, orange and pink clash…’
‘Orange and pink! Let’s mix them. And make it kind of neon for good measure.’
‘No, wait, I was only saying that orange and pink clash…’

If this line of racquets is flying somewhat under the radar, some of that has to go down the simple fact that it’s pretty ugly.

The one thing about the design that does stand out is the beam construction. I’ve never seen anything like it: the best way I can describe it is that there’s an ‘inner’ beam embedded in the frame. I’ve read quite a few comments about the thickness, but personally don’t think it’s anywhere near as offensive as some are making out.


The feel… J011y is spot on when he says it doesn’t feel of anything. This isn’t terrible for me. I hit with the Pure Strike last summer wanting to really like it, but it felt hollow and tinny. The Clash doesn’t have that… it’s solid. It just lacks feedback.

I’ve read some talk about the flex, but it doesn’t feel odd to me. It might be worth noting that I’ve spent the past 10 years playing with pro stock Heads (TGK 238.1), which started off soft and are now noodles.


Comfort… I’ve had two wrist injuries, and an arm susceptible to pain. I’ve started with full poly in these which I can’t do in most racquets, and no issues at all. Comfort is top notch.


Groundies… make no mistake, this is a modern racquet, designed for players who habitually trade from the baseline. It has a high launch angle, plentiful access to spin… it’s a very good racquet for rallying. The balance means it’s *very* quick through the air, and for me this means it shines against aggressive players. Balls that would usually have me on the defensive I find easier to neutralise, and I’m quicker to turn a neutral ball into attack. Slice… ok, slice is taking a little more time to dial in. Perhaps the beam is a tad thicker than ideal after all.

One thing I have noticed… the lack of feel means I need to focus on watching the ball more. I think it’s a case of losing one sense, you have to compensate via the others. And taste and smell aren’t a lot of use on the court. Get the contact point right, and this racquet sings. Timing slightly wrong… we’re talking back fence on the rise territory.


Mid court… the biggest negative for me. Traditionally one of the strongest areas of my game, it turns out I rely on feel rather excessively when executing a half volley pickup. The number of these that I’m flubbing is unacceptable. It’s possible that this has been exasperated by the strings, but it’s most likely that I’m getting the contact wrong.


Volleys… solid. The racquet doesn’t flutter much. Love it on overheads. I’m far more of a punchy volleyer than one who goes for cute drop volleys, a style that probably suits this racquet better.


Serves… big flats. Big spin. Tis a good serving stick.


Strings… I don’t usually break strings excessively. In my TGKs, gut/poly lasts around 30 hours. I started with full poly on these to get a feel of tension, ALU at 48 and RPM at 46. Broke after 7-8 hours. TF Ice, LXN Smart and Element are lined up next… then will probably chuck in a gut hybrid just for kicks.


Wilson QC… I’ve got a pair from the same batch, with serial numbers Wxxxx526 and Wxxxx576, so there’s some hope, right?

Racquet 1: 307.3g, 304mm
Racquet 2: 308.6g, 308mm


Bottom line… it’s just plain fun to play with.
 

BBender716

Semi-Pro
Considering stringing my Clash 98 with Hyper G, Tour Bite, or Big Hitter Silver Tour.

Bought it used, strung with Gut/Poly but normally I play with full poly in lower powered frames. I'm a 3.5 and the other racquets I'm tinkering with are K7 Lime and Blade.

I play with a decent amount of spin but working on flattening out more since right now it's a tad too loopy and not enough pace.

Suggestions?

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sleepyeg

New User
Just strong my 98 with Hyper G 17 @48/46, not as plush as my DR 98 same string and tension. The clash felt like a board, will probably lower the tension next time I string it up.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Just strong my 98 with Hyper G 17 @48/46, not as plush as my DR 98 same string and tension. The clash felt like a board, will probably lower the tension next time I string it up.
I have mine weighted up to 346g, sw: 332. I strung mine originally with S7T @ 45/42, and felt ok, but not great - like it actually needed a thicker string. Restrung it with a "thicker" 1.25, Diadem Solstice Power at the same tension. We'll see how it goes today when I hit.
 

BBender716

Semi-Pro
I have mine weighted up to 346g, sw: 332. I strung mine originally with S7T @ 45/42, and felt ok, but not great - like it actually needed a thicker string. Restrung it with a "thicker" 1.25, Diadem Solstice Power at the same tension. We'll see how it goes today when I hit.
I'm considering something like TB @ 45/42 or S7T at that tension, especially given the above comment about Hyper G feeling boardy at 48/46.

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tpro2000

Rookie
I'm considering something like TB @ 45/42 or S7T at that tension, especially given the above comment about Hyper G feeling boardy at 48/46.

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Yeah I love S7T 17g, maybe 16g would have been better. It felt l, idk how to describe it, but like, thin, and almost too soft in this frame.

The Diadem I have now seems way better @ 45/42. Tons of power, spin, easy on the arm. Interest frame. Fun to hit with, not sure I could play matches with it. That's what my Angells are for

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BBender716

Semi-Pro
Yeah I love S7T 17g, maybe 16g would have been better. It felt l, idk how to describe it, but like, thin, and almost too soft in this frame.

The Diadem I have now seems way better @ 45/42. Tons of power, spin, easy on the arm. Interest frame. Fun to hit with, not sure I could play matches with it. That's what my Angells are for

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Yup my other frames are Blade v7, K7 Lime, and a TC95 lol

The thinness you describe is probably similar to how I felt firewire boost in my pure strike tour.

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Mateo

Rookie
C/P from my Thread about the Clash:

Little update, I have managed to take Wilson Clash 98 for test. Played with it today for two hours. I have eastern forehand and two handed backhand. About strong 4,5 player with dead legs .

In short, regarding weight and balance it was all fine, swingweight is ok, not hard to take swings even when you are tired. As I’m more of traditional racquet player (currently Radical IG 18/20 with small weight at 3&9) clash was really power weapon. It has that free power, that needs to be controlled. It was stringed with full poly MSV focus hex 23 kg.
You have to really get shots in sweet spot center to have good control, outside of sweet spot it gets uncontrollable and balls would fly out. For comparison Yonex DR98 has less power, less spin but much better control. Balance and weight is almost same.
In my opinion Clash is not for me. I have big swing and with the clash I have to shorten up and stay on brakes. (For players playing with semi western or western grip this could be real weapon)
But, for example between Clash and Pure Drive I would choose Clash without a doubt.

I think that Blade 16/19 would be best racquet for me with some more control, less power but still more spin and help vs Blade or radical in 18/20, only thing that is concerning me is swingweight that on the old blades that I have had was little bit to much and with added leather grip or lead tape to handle overall weight was to much to handle for example in hot summer day playing with somebody younger or in better shape.
If I play somebody with similar shape 18/20 racquet is best choice for me, but someone younger with better shape and more time on court than me, I really struggle to get penetrating ball, easier winners....
but the problem is that I can’t find Blade for testing and I have to buy than try it.



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Mateo

Rookie
The cosmetics… well, it’s not a paint job for the ages. I get that Wilson have done their standardised branding thing, so all they have to play with is colour. I can only imagine the conversation with the designers went something like this:

‘New racquet guys! Pick a colour.’
‘Red.’
‘Blue.’
‘Green.’
‘Black.’
‘White.’
‘Nope, all those are gone. We need a new one.’
‘What’s this line called?’
‘Clash. What does Clash say to you?’
‘Well, orange and pink clash…’
‘Orange and pink! Let’s mix them. And make it kind of neon for good measure.’
‘No, wait, I was only saying that orange and pink clash…’

If this line of racquets is flying somewhat under the radar, some of that has to go down the simple fact that it’s pretty ugly.

The one thing about the design that does stand out is the beam construction. I’ve never seen anything like it: the best way I can describe it is that there’s an ‘inner’ beam embedded in the frame. I’ve read quite a few comments about the thickness, but personally don’t think it’s anywhere near as offensive as some are making out.


The feel… J011y is spot on when he says it doesn’t feel of anything. This isn’t terrible for me. I hit with the Pure Strike last summer wanting to really like it, but it felt hollow and tinny. The Clash doesn’t have that… it’s solid. It just lacks feedback.

I’ve read some talk about the flex, but it doesn’t feel odd to me. It might be worth noting that I’ve spent the past 10 years playing with pro stock Heads (TGK 238.1), which started off soft and are now noodles.


Comfort… I’ve had two wrist injuries, and an arm susceptible to pain. I’ve started with full poly in these which I can’t do in most racquets, and no issues at all. Comfort is top notch.


Groundies… make no mistake, this is a modern racquet, designed for players who habitually trade from the baseline. It has a high launch angle, plentiful access to spin… it’s a very good racquet for rallying. The balance means it’s *very* quick through the air, and for me this means it shines against aggressive players. Balls that would usually have me on the defensive I find easier to neutralise, and I’m quicker to turn a neutral ball into attack. Slice… ok, slice is taking a little more time to dial in. Perhaps the beam is a tad thicker than ideal after all.

One thing I have noticed… the lack of feel means I need to focus on watching the ball more. I think it’s a case of losing one sense, you have to compensate via the others. And taste and smell aren’t a lot of use on the court. Get the contact point right, and this racquet sings. Timing slightly wrong… we’re talking back fence on the rise territory.


Mid court… the biggest negative for me. Traditionally one of the strongest areas of my game, it turns out I rely on feel rather excessively when executing a half volley pickup. The number of these that I’m flubbing is unacceptable. It’s possible that this has been exasperated by the strings, but it’s most likely that I’m getting the contact wrong.


Volleys… solid. The racquet doesn’t flutter much. Love it on overheads. I’m far more of a punchy volleyer than one who goes for cute drop volleys, a style that probably suits this racquet better.


Serves… big flats. Big spin. Tis a good serving stick.


Strings… I don’t usually break strings excessively. In my TGKs, gut/poly lasts around 30 hours. I started with full poly on these to get a feel of tension, ALU at 48 and RPM at 46. Broke after 7-8 hours. TF Ice, LXN Smart and Element are lined up next… then will probably chuck in a gut hybrid just for kicks.


Wilson QC… I’ve got a pair from the same batch, with serial numbers Wxxxx526 and Wxxxx576, so there’s some hope, right?

Racquet 1: 307.3g, 304mm
Racquet 2: 308.6g, 308mm


Bottom line… it’s just plain fun to play with.
Absolutely best description for Clash. Played a match today with it, mixed feelings, it’s really nice racquet just can’t get over those uncontrollable shots that happen to often in point play.
It felt great in baseline warm up.


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weelie

Semi-Pro
The local tester Clash 98 just did not do it for me, ...Blade v7 16x19 was wonderful had all the control and just enough power... but the 98 did not excel in anything, for me. Bought the 100 tour 2nd hand as it happened to be available on the day. Will first be restrung, first test this Saturday. Also the Clash 98 was a lot more HH than the tour, I think should not be, but it was.

But maybe it was the test racket strings. As Blade had revolve spins, great feel, accuracy, lovely slices and volleys. The Clash 98 has the Smarts on it, did well on slices, but otherwise was uncontrollable, hated it at the net. Anyway, 100 tour for now, will pick up one of the Blades if I see a used one locally.
 
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J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
The local tester Clash 98 just did not do it for me, ...Blade v7 16x19 was wonderful had all the control and just enough power... but the 98 did not excel in anything, for me. Bought the 100 tour 2nd hand as it happened to be available on the day. Will first be restrung, first test this Saturday.

But maybe it was the test racket strings. As Blade had revolve spins, great feel, accuracy, lovely slices and volleys. The Clash 98 has the Smarts on it, did well on slices, but otherwise was uncontrollable, hated it at the net. Anyway, 100 tour for now, will pick up one of the Blades if I see a used one locally.
Luxilon Smart?

J
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
The local tester Clash 98 just did not do it for me, ...Blade v7 16x19 was wonderful had all the control and just enough power... but the 98 did not excel in anything, for me. Bought the 100 tour 2nd hand as it happened to be available on the day. Will first be restrung, first test this Saturday.

But maybe it was the test racket strings. As Blade had revolve spins, great feel, accuracy, lovely slices and volleys. The Clash 98 has the Smarts on it, did well on slices, but otherwise was uncontrollable, hated it at the net. Anyway, 100 tour for now, will pick up one of the Blades if I see a used one locally.
Haven’t tried lux smart yet but all the feedback I’ve seen online hasn’t been good. I recommend trying it with a good linear responding, predictable poly.
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
I only tried Clash 98 with 4G 1.25/23kg. Loved the soft feel and plushness of it. The major issue i had and made me to back off was that the ball stayed too much on the string and as a result i was giving too much time on my opponents to regroup.... I couldn’t return balls fast and my penetration was lower. Same experience on serves... not enough penetration. Has anyone else experienced sth similar or its because of my string choice ???
 

1990's Graphite

Professional
I only tried Clash 98 with 4G 1.25/23kg. Loved the soft feel and plushness of it. The major issue i had and made me to back off was that the ball stayed too much on the string and as a result i was giving too much time on my opponents to regroup.... I couldn’t return balls fast and my penetration was lower. Same experience on serves... not enough penetration. Has anyone else experienced sth similar or its because of my string choice ???
The only thing that kept me playing with this frame more was the beam thickness but that is nothing against the stick. I feel the clash 98 absorbs pace well and if you hit out hard it does nicely, no chance for opponents to regroup lol flat serves are fast and hard more precise than the 100 versions.
 

10nisne1

New User
I only tried Clash 98 with 4G 1.25/23kg. Loved the soft feel and plushness of it. The major issue i had and made me to back off was that the ball stayed too much on the string and as a result i was giving too much time on my opponents to regroup.... I couldn’t return balls fast and my penetration was lower. Same experience on serves... not enough penetration. Has anyone else experienced sth similar or its because of my string choice ???
I had mentioned the same with the Blade v7 on one of the threads. I suspect the lower stiffness of the racket is causing a little too much pocketing or ball to dwell on the strings a bit too long. Just like it did for me with the Blade v7, the Clash 98 could possibly benefit from a stiffer set of strings or increase in string tension.
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
I had mentioned the same with the Blade v7 on one of the threads. I suspect the lower stiffness of the racket is causing a little too much pocketing or ball to dwell on the strings a bit too long. Just like it did for me with the Blade v7, the Clash 98 could possibly benefit from a stiffer set of strings or increase in string tension.
Blade V7 is an excellent racquet ONLY when you hit a clean shot. Outside the SSpot its pretty demanding, control oriented and with no free power at all. For me 2015 and 2013 version is miles better and easier to play with. I even found V7 more muted than Clash 98 and with less connected feel. The problem for me with Clash was not lack of power..... the ball took ages to get off the strings. I am waiting clash 98 users for string/tension suggestions.....?
 
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