classic rackets...any further suggestions

evw

Rookie
classic style players rackets...any further suggestions

OK, I'm in the market for some new sticks. Played the Wilson 6.1 classic for many years as most college players in the 90's the stiff frame started to kill me though. Switched to Volkl about 7 years ago and loved the Quantum 10 Tour but alas they discontinued and so I swithed to the DNX 10 Mid, 1.5 years ago and I still hate it. My connection with Volkl has now ended so I'm open to any brand.

I'm looking for a classic style and feeling racket from 90-95sq in. I also prefer something starting at over 12oz. Racket must also currently be in production and available.

So far I have tried:
Wilson K factor Tour 90
Wilson Ncode Tour 90
Wilson Blade
Wilson Kblade Tour
Wilson Kfactor 6.1
Wilson Ncode 6.1
Tecnifiber Tfight 335 16x20
Tecnifibre Tfight 320 18x20
Tecnifiber Tfeel 305
Head MG Prestige Mid, Mid+, Tour
Head MG Radical Mid+
Borris Becker BB11 Mid+
Dunlop AG200 95
Babolat Pure Storm Tour
Yonex RDS 001 97
Donnay Pro One 95
Avery M3 Control 95
Fischer MComp 95
Prince 03 Speedport Tour
Prince Diablo Tour



UPDATE: settled on the Head Prestige Mid+ and Mid+ Pro. Ordered 2 of each as I could not decide. UPDATE
 
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evw

Rookie
Thanks for the suggestions I'll check those out.

To clarify, I want something that starts at at least 12oz strung as I'll weight it to 12.5. I don't want a racket I'll have to add 1.5oz to.

Why are all the sticks now 97-98in ?
 
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nCode 6.1 or kFactor 6.1, but I'm assuming you're trying to avoid them because of your experience with the Classic 6.1?
Both 95 and over 12oz.
 

evw

Rookie
I added the Avery and Fischer but won't touch anything Dunlop aside from an original 200g or Maxply. I had three 200g's between my switch from Wilson to Volkl...man those things are crap. All went totally dead and became noodles in 6 months.
 
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anirut

Legend
IF you're looking at the PK Heritage Type C and you mean the "silver" version ...

then they're out of the market.

IF you mean the Redondo Type C (red one), then (as of now) TW has the midplus (98), which is actually around 95 sqin.

For more info on the Redondo, you can check the thread in my signature. The first post is kept updated with comparisons and interesting stuff.

Happy hunting.
 

evw

Rookie
I've never been a fan of the Prestige frames as I thought they were overly stiff.

Looks like I have a decent selection of rackets to choose from. I'll get started on the list but am still open to more suggestions.

Thanks
 

evw

Rookie
Tried some from the list and others at the local pro shop this weekend. I'll get the rest from TW.

Kfactor 90, nice weight, lacks some feel, demanding but rewarding
Yonex RDS 98, sucks, unstable and light, worst of the bunch so far
Prince Speedport Tour, not bad at all,feels good throught the ball, suprised I thought I would hate it.
Head Radical, feels great, solid and stable, BUT way to light for a players frame, would take some major customization to be playable

Have these to try:
Tecnifbre Tfeel 305
Wilson Blade
Dunlop 200G

Will order these from TW:
Avery Control
Fischer M comp
Tecnifibre 335
Pro Kennex Redondo

Will update as I go.
 
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Doc Hollidae

Hall of Fame
I've never been a fan of the Prestige frames as I thought they were overly stiff.

Looks like I have a decent selection of rackets to choose from. I'll get started on the list but am still open to more suggestions.

Thanks
Isn't the Prestige more flexible than most of the rackets you have on that list?
 

LPShanet

Banned
Tried some from the list and others at the local pro shop this weekend. I'll get the rest from TW.

Kfactor 90, nice weight, lacks some feel, demanding but rewarding
Yonex RDS 98, sucks, unstable and light, worst of the bunch so far
Prince Speedport Tour, not bad at all,feels good throught the ball, suprised I thought I would hate it.
Head Radical, feels great, solid and stable, BUT way to light for a players frame, would take some major customization to be playable

Have these to try:
Tecnifbre Tfeel 305
Wilson Blade
Dunlop 200G

Will order these from TW:
Avery Control
Fischer M comp
Tecnifibre 335
Pro Kennex Redondo

Will update as I go.
Also, as you'll soon find out, the Tfeel 305 shouldn't be on your list. Nowhere near the weight you're looking for. For reference, the Tecnifibre model numbers include the unstrung weight in grams. The only ones that are anywhere near your specs are the 320 and 335.
 

rletizia

New User
Forget the 305

Have these to try:
Tecnifbre Tfeel 305

Will update as I go.
Forget the TFeel 305. It is not comparable to any of those racquets you have listed and is way too stiff -- I have two of them and they are now for for sale as they are 1) too stiff and 2) lack the control I want. If you can find one, a TFight 325 would probably feel good to you although some think it is not quite flexible enough. I own both the 18x20 and 16x20 335 and the 18x20 325. The 18x20s should be strung with 17 string and preferably a soft/hard hybrid -- TF x1 biphase and Luxilon Timo is a nice mix. or x1 and babolat hurricaine tour 17.
 

meowmix

Hall of Fame
Not too sure how I got to the page, but a while back (this was around the time that I posted that TW's selling PC600's again), I was just clicking around on TW. Through various, links, I ended up finding the PC 600 selling for 179.95. Have never found that page again. : (
 

evw

Rookie
I'm trying everything my local shop has that could be of any interest before I order what they don't have from TW. I took the 305 as it was the only Tecnifibre they had and I've never hit with one before.
 

TripleB

Hall of Fame
Wilson Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 if you can find one. Probably my favorite ProStaff...unfortunately I sold both of mine to a buddy of mine. Probably too heavy for me to play with on a consistent basis but it'd be nice to bring it back out of retirement every once in a while.

TripleB
 

evw

Rookie
To clarify, I want a racket that is in production and readily available.

I've tried that racket, horrendous piece of... That was when Wilson first tried to replace the PS classic...what a failure. Why don't I just get one with "Rollers".
 

Anton

Legend
PC600 and iPrestige are a must try rackets out of mid racket category...and soon the MG Prestige will join the gang.

You can also try the Donnay Pro One from TW
 

TripleB

Hall of Fame
To clarify, I want a racket that is in production and readily available.
Sorry can't post the link....but you can easily find them for $50 a pair (at least for another 28 hours).

And if you were referring to the Hyper ProStaff 6.1 as a piece of.....to each his own....it seems everything else after it has been less maneuverable or offered a lot smaller sweetspot....IMO of course.

Right now I really don't think there are a lot of quality over 12 ounce racquets out there. This is the best in my opinion: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCPRINCE-GRO.html

TripleB
 
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evw

Rookie
Thanks but I've tried the PS 6.0. My arm would last about 1 hour with that thing. Way to stiff and to much power. I never liked any of the various sizes of that frame. I chose the PS Classic over that while in college as did most others.
 

JSF1

Rookie
Yes, to each their own. HPS 6.1 in my opinion is one of the best of all time. Great feedback and a perfect blend of power to control. Must have been bad strings or something when you tried it before.
 

evw

Rookie
still going

I played with the:
Dunlop 200, feels ok, I could play with it but nothing great, considering the head size and string pattern an added 1/2 once would make it work
Tecnifibre 305, great feeling frame, to much power and to light, spin potential is amazing, looking forward to trying the 335.
Blade, nothing to hate and nothing to like, bland no feel generic wilson

K90 and 200g are the best of the bunch I've tried so far.
 
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Putt4Dough

New User
You definitely got to try the Prince Original Graphite 93. I have been a big Wilson Pro Staff fan for years and eventually switched to the POG. The racquet is legendary for its feel and is easy on the arms.
 

evw

Rookie
Finally got some more rackets, gave them all a hit this evening and then put them on the scale. No conclusions about the rackets yet.

Weights strung:

Fish M Comp: 12.2/345
Avery Control: 12.4/351
Tecn 335: 12.5/352
Don Pro One: 11.8/333
 

evw

Rookie
not to excited about any of the rackets.

Found one of my old Tour 10s Mids in the closet and strung it up. Now I remember why I liked them so much. Weighted to 12.5 ounces they just hit like butter. I think my objective is to find a frame as neer to it as I can get. That means something in the 93-97 head size, 18/20 string pattern, 12-12.5 once strung weight range.

Thoughts on the rackets tried:

Fischer: feels very solid more than any of the other rackets but as a result stiff, the only rackets to start bothering my arm. Don't like the frame shape, something like an Aerodrive, doesn't feel nice in the opposite hand.

Donnay: very soft and flexible but to light considering its flex, I could play with it but don't really like it.

Avery: good all around but nothing special, could also play with it but it never gives that rewarding feeling when you strike the ball well, also seemed overly head light

Tecnifibre: nice feeling stick, feels soft but has nice pop, the frame balance is way off, feels almost head heavy and at 12.5 onces does not leave room for customization to get the balance I want. Think I'll try the 320 to see if I could work with that.

Still to try: PK Redondo, Head Microgel Prestige, Tecnifibre Tfight 320 18/20
 

Michelangelo

Professional
Tried the Fischer M Comp, feels around 63 rather than 59 as stated. Little bit better power than Donnay Pro One International from baseline but the Donnay feels more comfortable and easier to access spin (especially 2nd serve). I personally slightly favor to the Donnay.
 

evw

Rookie
tried the BB11 Mid+, great hitting and feeling stick, a little light for me but easily resolved, like the string pattern, a great improvement over the DNX10 rackets. don't like the headsize though as it feels and looks to large. Looking forward to a BB11 Mid.

Have a Prestige MG to try when the rain stops.

Ordering these as soon as available: Prestige Mid, Diablo Mid, K Blade Mid, and Tecnifibre320 18X20

Nice to see a good selection of 93s on the market.
 

HeadPrestige

Professional
Thanks but I've tried the PS 6.0. My arm would last about 1 hour with that thing. Way to stiff and to much power. I never liked any of the various sizes of that frame. I chose the PS Classic over that while in college as did most others.
while the frame has a 67 stiffness rating from TW, i have yet to meet anyone who thought the frame itself was harsh or overly stiff. I switched to the 6.0 from the flexpoint prestige MP because of arm pain, and have been more than happy.

Also, maybe it was the strings, but the 6.0 is by no means a powerful racket. My only complaint with it (and many people) is that it is vastly underpowered.
 
I'll suggest a racket that no one has mentioned yet. It even has some fiberglass in it. It's about 12 oz, not as head light as the Pro Staffs and flexible. It's a Pro Supex MP 3 Uniflex. I've been using one for a couple of months now. If you use an extreme western grip, I'd say this racket isn't for you. But, if you have a traditional semi western or continental grip, you won't mind the slightly narower profile. Give is a look. You'll be the talk of the court.
 

evw

Rookie
I don't know about that Uniflex but the Nano looks appealing. But where does one get a demo?
 

evw

Rookie
got on the court today.

Prestige MG Mid+, very lively feeling racket, I really think Head has done a great job with there new MG line of rackets, they are a massive improvement over the FPs. the grip seems to have been changed from the Head shape to a more traditional square rather than the regtangular grip I remember. less power than the BB11 and the head shape is identical to the Dunlop AG200, and smaller than the BB11, exact same size as the AG200. Going to give it some more time on the court.

Also tried the Babolat Pure Storm Tour, best Babolat since the original box frame Pure Controls, a real plyers racket from Babolat! did not like the muted feel though, would recommend to anybody that likes the Babolat feel but wants a players racket.
 

evw

Rookie
Wilson KFactor KBlade Tour 93 (1/2)
Head Microgel Prestige Mid (1/2)
Tecnifibre 320 (18X20) Mid+ (1/2)
Prince Tour Diablo Mid (1/2)

all on there way.

So far the rackets I like in order of preference are: MG Prestige Mid+, AG 200 Mid+, and K90
 

Anton

Legend
Wilson KFactor KBlade Tour 93 (1/2)
Head Microgel Prestige Mid (1/2)
Tecnifibre 320 (18X20) Mid+ (1/2)
Prince Tour Diablo Mid (1/2)

all on there way.

So far the rackets I like in order of preference are: MG Prestige Mid+, AG 200 Mid+, and K90
I think it will be between MG Prestige MP and KBlade tour for you.
 

voodoo

New User
not to excited about any of the rackets.


Thoughts on the rackets tried:


Tecnifibre: nice feeling stick, feels soft but has nice pop, the frame balance is way off, feels almost head heavy and at 12.5 onces does not leave room for customization to get the balance I want. Think I'll try the 320 to see if I could work with that.

I find my T335 quite stiff and extremely head light - they're listed 10pts light. Although I'm also using the PC600 which I can't seem to give up. These are definetely not stiff - they give awesome feel and control if you can find that sweet spot.

Good luck with your search. Maybe telling us more about your style of play, grips, doubles/singles emphasis etc may help some to narrow down your search.
 

evw

Rookie
basicaly after everything I've tried I just want my old racket. So I'm looking for something as close as possible to my Volkl Tour 10 MId. Its 93, 18x20, 12 ounces weighted to 12.5, I think the stiffness rating was like 59/60, I like the grip shape, I really like everything about it. I have none left out of 8 and no way to get new ones.

I picked up the Blade Tour, Prestige Mid, Diablo Mid, and Tecnifibre 320 18x20 from TW on Friday. I'll hit with them tomorrow and see how it goes. Just from looks though I'm not to fond of the Prestige Mid head shape and its smaller than 93 seems like a 90 and the 98 was the same size as most 95s.
 

racquet_jedi

Professional
basicaly after everything I've tried I just want my old racket. So I'm looking for something as close as possible to my Volkl Tour 10 MId. Its 93, 18x20, 12 ounces weighted to 12.5, I think the stiffness rating was like 59/60, I like the grip shape, I really like everything about it. I have none left out of 8 and no way to get new ones.

I picked up the Blade Tour, Prestige Mid, Diablo Mid, and Tecnifibre 320 18x20 from TW on Friday. I'll hit with them tomorrow and see how it goes. Just from looks though I'm not to fond of the Prestige Mid head shape and its smaller than 93 seems like a 90 and the 98 was the same size as most 95s.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCVOLKL-T10V.html

Is this it?
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Tried some from the list and others at the local pro shop this weekend. I'll get the rest from TW.

Kfactor 90, nice weight, lacks some feel, demanding but rewarding

Will order these from TW:

Pro Kennex Redondo

Will update as I go.
I don't know what strings you used with the K90 but perhaps an 18 guage would improve the feel if it was just the typical 16 Guage on your demo.

Feel on the Redondo is nicer but it's quite a bit lighter than the K90. I like how the K90 hits and don't mind giving up a little feel for the other positive aspects.
 
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