Clay French Open?!?!?

#1
I have a question but i dont know if its a dumb or not.
Most of real good clay court players are south americans and spanirds and grandslam of clay is held at France. And there arent that many real good clay court players in france,,, whatsup with that? I was always curious about that,,, If you really wanna know how to play good on this surface they all go to spain not france,, i am really curious about this
 

Phil

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#2
I have a question but i dont know if its a dumb or not.
I think you just answered that on your own.

When's the last time a Brit won Wimbledon, or an Aussie the AO?

The French excel at such skills as wine and cheese making, bread baking, surrendering, going on strike, loafing and telling everyone that can't cover their ears in time about the superiority of their culture and language-all of these are, arguably, skills, but none of them conducive for winning grand slams.
 
#3
No thats now what i mean dummy, Wimbledon in England almost all the player are playing on grass which makes them a good grass court player, traditional grass court player, and most of players there uses continental grips because of the surface which will make them moe adopt to this surface, they just dont have a good grass court player there except rusedski and henman cause brits sucks at tennis. And for US open and Austrlian open most of austrlians and Americans are really good and they feel more comfortable on this surface( Hewitt, Agassi, Roddick, Phillippousis, Blake, Fish) They never really feel more comfortable on any other surfaces than Hard or Ace bound because they grew up playing on this court.
 
#6
grosjean, clement, gasquet, escude, bennetau, the guy who beat agassi......yeah, no good at all.......? The salms are held where they are because Australia, France, England and America were the only countrys that had won the Davis Cup when the slams began....so they played them in the countries of the best players
 
#7
Hewiitfan22, yes you are dumb! *

Slam events are part of history, and that is what makes their prestige, and to reach that level of prestige, a tournament needs to exist since a long long time. Do you think that the Slams would be as prestigious if they would have changed of country each 10-15 years? Of course no, but if we follow your way of thinking the slam events would actually change of countries regularly, and for exemple, Wimbledon would not be anymore in England!

Where was the Spanish tennis 20 years ago? Nowhere, but sweden was the dominant nation on Clay in the Early 80's, so a Slam in Stockholm during the 80's? And in 15 years if the german players dominate on clay would you ask for a Slam in Berlin? DUMB, DUMB DUMB!

HAVING A SLAM EVENT IS NOT A MATTER OF HAVING GREAT PLAYERS.
 

BLiND

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#8
"The French excel at such skills as wine and cheese making, bread baking, surrendering, going on strike, loafing and telling everyone that can't cover their ears in time about the superiority of their culture and language-all of these are, arguably, skills, but none of them conducive for winning grand slams"

ROFLMAO... thats SO true... I live next-door to them, my best friend is married to one of them, and I 100% agree with this... if your american, then I applaude your analogy considering your so far away from them :)
 
#11
Trivia question of the day.
How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris from military attack?
Answer: Don't know. Its never been tried (defended that is)
 
#12
Any joke that has to be explained isn't funny. If people more widely travelled and read, they would come to appreciate "them" (that's a racist epithet if I ever heard one ). If you're American, visit Canada, there are alot of "them" speaking French and carrying on their culture. And a couple of "them" are pretty good sports men with the will to win (think hockey) . If you're a Brit, you can swim across the channel and eat some frites.
 
#13
For a minute I swear I felt I was visiting the Yahoo boards. So how does it feel to carry around thoses same fat old jokes from an internet discussion to another?

If have an idea, why don't you pack a bag and travel a little to experience first hand how americans are perceived in the world these days? You can still deal with mid life crisis and work on your tennis strokes when you come back - that is if you come back with both hands.
 
#14
I suppose what really makes us hate the French is their first having had the Gaul to criticise our declaring war on Iraq, and now turning out to have been right. What a bunch of jerks !
 
#15
Cypo, I won't touch that comment with a ten foot pole. (I now expect a rash of Eastern European posts) Too silly and narrow-minded for words. Allez Marat. Vive la russie.
 

BLiND

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#16
Cypo, I think you mean't "had the Gaul to criticise our declaring war on Iraq, after detonating a nuclear weapon in the pacific for 'test' reasons".

I was in france not a month ago, and its mostly true :)

I'm English (or British)... I have a stereotype, and its mostly true, same with Americans, French, but not everyone follows that stereotype..
 
#18
I don't know if writing that off as silly is a good idea Pound Cat- Canada is one of several nations which could have a nuclear weapon within months (according to the New York Times) - are you sure that the potential to quickly develop a weapon won't be an even more persuasive argument for bombing than claiming that despite all evidence a country has WMDs ?

Not that we'd bomb nice people who look like us and kind of speak the same language....

(yes Gaul was intentional)
 
#20
Actually, I'm going to be travelling in Germany, Switzerland and Spain in exactly thirteen days. Will also be riding a train through France.

Funny how you guys jump all over the jokes about the French, but you say nothing about the "Ugly American" comments, which are just as prejudicial and "racist". Why would that be?
 
#21
We can? We do? We don't even have any helicopters that work at the moment & there would be a huge public outcry if money was spent on nuclear weapons. The NYT comments that several countries could have nuclear weapons in months. Of course any country with the inclination could have nuclear weapons in months if they so desired (you know, the money thing) But we're not so inclined, prefering to spend our money on our free health care system. And yes, some of my best friends are American.
 
#23
Aha Pound Cat - now we've got you ! Obliviously you wouldn't be so quick to deny your intentions with regards to those stock piles of reprocessed fuel if you weren't intending to make a nuclear device. And flaunting your socialist system shows a disregard for proper capitalist thinking which clearly means you are in line with terrorists.

no one expects the Spanish inquisition !
 
#26
Suddenly we jumped to a quite different subject. Nice! Just to add my 2 cents, in the case of South America, anti-americanism is indeed strong. It's probably already part of our culture. Not unduly, though, given the support and sponsorship, by US gov't, of bloody dictatorships in Chile, Argentina and Brazil in the 70's. Anti americanism was at its lowest during the Clinton administration, who was seen, in Brazil at least, as having honest intentions regarding (some) world peace and international prosperity. But Bush difinitely threw it all down the drain. Let me make it clear that this does not reflect my personal opinion, except for Mr. "Arbusto", a disgrace to the US and the rest of the world. I really admire the fact the the most harsh criticism made to the US comes from the US. Very few countries are fortunate enough to have a Michael Moore, 60 Minutes, Paul Krugman, NYT, Washington Post...
 
#27
chad shaver said:
Funny how you guys jump all over the jokes about the French, but you say nothing about the "Ugly American" comments, which are just as prejudicial and "racist". Why would that be?
Funny how when Phil orders people to refrain from making political comments on a tennis forum you jump in and agree. Funny how when he makes politically motivated snipes about the French in another post you remain silent. Funny how you jump in when the "Ugly American" comments are posted but are happy to let the jokes about the French pass by. Funny how you mention 'racist' but the more accurate word is xenophobic and it's funny why you would raise such a point when you rebuke some prejudical comments but not others. Why would that be?
 

@wright

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#28
There are so many arguments going on in the tw boards right now, I'm about to start checking under the floor boards for the pink ooze stuff in Ghostbusters 2.
 
#29
Bob Murray,

Please tell me when I have made a prejudicial comment about another country or another group. I am "American," so I will defend my own. If you go back and check the old boards, you will notice that I have said that we, as "Americans," police our own quite nicely, thank you.

This garbage kicked up at the end of last year's US Open, where we had all manner of people coming on doing the "Americans are_____" stuff. Some guy comes on berating and attacking us for jingoism, blah blah blah. A few others and I defended, then were berated for being defensive. You can go back and read it all if you want. Just do a search for "jingoism."

If you wish to jump in and defend them or discuss the matter with Phil, or anyone else, help yourself. By the way, the term racist was quoted from another person, and I chose not to argue syntax, as people get all cranky and say, "Well, you knew what I meant!" or better yet, "Stop being so picky about my word choice!"

Going to my nephew's baseball game, now. Let me know if I missed anything, Bob.
 
#31
I suppose what really makes us hate the French is their first having had the Gaul to criticise our declaring war on Iraq, and now turning out to have been right. What a bunch of jerks !
what exactly was the us wrong about? iraq at some point in time had weapons of mass destruction. the fact that they got rid of them or hid them at some point is irrelevent. the world is a better place without saddam and sons. the french simply didnt want to sever all their financial ties with saddam so quit acting like the french are somehow more enlightened because they were against the war. :roll: :roll:
 
#34
mileslong said:
I suppose what really makes us hate the French is their first having had the Gaul to criticise our declaring war on Iraq, and now turning out to have been right. What a bunch of jerks !
what exactly was the us wrong about? iraq at some point in time had weapons of mass destruction. the fact that they got rid of them or hid them at some point is irrelevent. the world is a better place without saddam and sons. the french simply didnt want to sever all their financial ties with saddam so quit acting like the french are somehow more enlightened because they were against the war. :roll: :roll:
Um, terrorism! Yeah, that's it!
 

Phil

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#37
Funny how when Phil orders people to refrain from making political comments on a tennis forum...".
Now, Bob, I never ORDERED anyone to do anything. I can only suggest. Now get along now, Bob. Go scamper back into your little hole for the next six months or so...and that's an order
 
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