Clijsters seemingly takes aim at Raducanu: "I've won a Slam now I've made it, I get treated like a princess wherever I go"

jga111 said:
Emma played the US Open without any fear. Her shots were aggressive in the main and she won it. She deserved it.

She is now playing with mental barriers, under pressure - while her opponents are playing “Emma Raducanu” so they’ve upped their game too. It’s difficult but she will learn and get through it.

In the meantime unhinged insecure critics aggressively pointing the finger at her, when she hasn’t done anything wrong. She is merely being young and adapting, learning, never said a bad word about anyone. She is actually a breath of fresh air. And so, there it is, she is a magnet for these “critics” and lives in their head rent free.
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This is true. Just wish people were a bit kinder during Osaka's struggles.
 
Bhagi Katbamna said:
As the great philosopher Al Bundy said: "Never try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other."
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Actually it's not that difficult to understand women. There's huge male communities online who have gathered numerous scientific studies and anecdotal experiences and come to conclusions about female behavior. This is stuff that wasn't really known 20+ years ago, but due to the internet, this stuff is now known. Social media has only accelerated our understanding of female behavior.
 
Arak said:
There are a lot of players who are clearly better than Raducanu. I do think she has been treated like royalty, undeservedly. But she has always looked humble after her win. She never came across as arrogant or full of herself. She’s just not that good at tennis and she knows it.
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From some detached moral perspective, maybe, but the world of sports as we know it exists and is available for us to enjoy because of the money that’s involved, and if people think they can money off of you in some immediate temporal way or by branding themselves a certain way using a person’s likeness, demographics, etc., for long-term value gain, then they “deserve it” since nobody was forced to give it to whomever.
 
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Jokervich said:
Actually it's not that difficult to understand women. There's huge male communities online who have gathered numerous scientific studies and anecdotal experiences and come to conclusions about female behavior. This is stuff that wasn't really known 20+ years ago, but due to the internet, this stuff is now known. Social media has only accelerated our understanding of female behavior.
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True and believe me, marketing companies know this.
 
ghostofMecir said:
From some detached moral perspective, maybe, but the world of sports as we know it exists and is available for us to enjoy because of the money that’s involved, and if people think they can money off of you in some immediate temporal way or by branding themselves a certain way, then they “deserve it” since nobody was forced to give it to whomever.
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That is certainly true. Just to clarify, when I say undeservedly, it’s in relation to other one slam winners like Ostapenko, Krejcikova, or Kenin who did not receive a similar treatment.
 
Pretty ladies always treated badly by the ladies that are not pr*tty! ;) Jealousy! Emma getting the easy $$$$$$$ and these who are complaining are not get much $$ sponsorship.
 
Mainad said:
Certainly Emma does not seem to have been able to focus on her game since the US Open win. Maybe a case of too much too soon?
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I was thinking after Emma won the US Open "Keep focusing on your tennis and don't get too caught up in all the sponsors stuff, because you still have much to learn". Sucking up to sponsors while tennis results are declining was bound to lead to resentments from other players. It's better to be kind and modest, saying that you still have much to learn etc, than be seen as a Queen bee type lapping up all the sponsors while your results go downhill. It's youthful naivety.

And Kim was with Lleyton when she was younger, and Lleyton was always about the competing and the fighting more than anything else. Never was he going to get carried away with sponsors stuff. He was more likely to go to war with sponsors than suck up to them.
 
wangs78 said:
If there is any bitterness among other female players toward Emma’s rapid rise to stardom and sponsorships, part of it is that she is an egregious example of female celebrities still being valued more for their looks / charm / sexiness than their actual ability in whatever their field happens to be. I didn’t notice much if any fanfare for Kenin when she won her maiden Slam at the AO and also not after she backed up that performance by making it to the finals of RG in the same year. She’s an American national so one has to ask why was this the case. My view is that has she had Sharapova’s looks, she would have been everywhere from a media and sponsorship perspective. While I don’t blame the player for all this attention they receive (it’s not their fault they were born pretty) but I also don’t fault other players for being a bit miffed for this special treatment based on superficial looks. It’s really the media and society that is to blame for placing value on certain things, esp when we supposedly have come a long way in moving away from objectifying women. The more things change, the more things stay the same, as they say.
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Nah, it's basically biology and some things that will never truly change no matter how much the society/media/politics push it.
 
What if Radicanu knew she was was an overachiever, fluted her first slam and used that as the stepping stone to grab as much sponsorship opportunities as she can before the next flavour of the month replaces her?

Not everyone can be Kim.
 
Fedinkum said:
What if Radicanu knew she was was an overachiever, fluted her first slam and used that as the stepping stone to grab as much sponsorship opportunities as she can before the next flavour of the month replaces her?

Not everyone can be Kim.
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I think that’s exactly what has happened.

That being said, there’s promise in her style and she seems to have a good attitude about the sport. It’s not like she’s looking listless on court or playing like Tomic. She’s just struggling to adapt to the WTA Tour rigors, hasn’t had an off season, is out of shape, seems to lack mental and tactical strength.

All this is normal for a 19 yr old. Doesn’t mean she won’t amount to anything in the tennis world, doesn’t mean she is a mug, but it’s clear that she wants to take the 15 minutes of fame.
 
Kralingen said:
Dude is out here trying to tell me I’m thirsty for a WTA player and that’s why I’m making a (completely logical and well founded) point….

I just have followed tennis and seen the same script so many times, for people to act like it’s only Raducanu who has gotten sponsors and fallen off after their first Slam win is disingenuous. Plus, it’s legitimately her first year on tour - it’s not like she was building to the Slam win. Miami was her 4th WTA 1000 ever, she hasn’t even played a Tour level match on clay yet…

But no, it’s because I physically like her and I’m too horny to think straight?

:-D :-D :-D
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So do you like to move it move it? Girl is physically fit, physically fit, physically physically physically fit...
 
I don’t think Clijsters meant Emma. She said similar thing if not the same in 2010, that in general few players think they are stars and behave like but when they retire they will lose all attention.
 
Fedinkum said:
What if Radicanu knew she was was an overachiever, fluted her first slam and used that as the stepping stone to grab as much sponsorship opportunities as she can before the next flavour of the month replaces her?

Not everyone can be Kim.
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Valid question.
 
Learning after 60+ yrs to never mention an attractive woman's name around family. The reply is always a question that implies thirst
 
Clijsters attempted to come back for the US open last year but was overweight and humiliated, losing every single match she played.

Then Raducanu comes through qualifying at her first ever US Open and wins the whole thing.

This really seems like bitterness and sour grapes on Clinsters part

Who would have thought clijsters would morph into a stereotypical Karen in her retirement
 
Partly I agree but at the same time, it's not like a whole amount of time has passed since Emma won the US Open so it might be too soon to be too harsh on her.
 
I don't understand why people are throwing shade at her.

Look at her rise, she came out of the blue in 2021 and if she is going to be a consistent top player people need to give her some time to mature. I'm looking at her results and I think she's still bathing in the euphoria of winning the US Open which is understandable but with Tennis it never stops and you have to move on.
 
King No1e said:
She might be treated like a princess, but she's not exactly acting like one. You can make those criticisms of Bouchard, Tsitsipas, Zverev etc, but Raducanu is every bit as well-behaved as Barty from what I've seen.
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She's pretty cute (and gawddamn hawt as well). I watched her press conferences and didn't see anything negative from her. Young, attractive, upbeat, and energetic, but sufficiently well-behaved. Her feet are probably still on the ground.
 
isn't kim a player who supposedly underachieved for being "too nice"? lol

i doubt she has an inside look at raducanu or osaka's life and how they treat other people. perhaps she is talking about her own peers from the 2000s and early 2010s
 
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jga111 said:
Emma played the US Open without any fear. Her shots were aggressive in the main and she won it. She deserved it.

She is now playing with mental barriers, under pressure - while her opponents are playing “Emma Raducanu” so they’ve upped their game too. It’s difficult but she will learn and get through it.

In the meantime unhinged insecure critics aggressively pointing the finger at her, when she hasn’t done anything wrong. She is merely being young and adapting, learning, never said a bad word about anyone. She is actually a breath of fresh air. And so, there it is, she is a magnet for these “critics” and lives in their head rent free.
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I've never got how people are often held accountable for not living up to their past successes. No matter whether she backs it up or not she has no obligation to win more just because others expect her to. People on these boards always talk as if she owes people or herself something for not winning anything more because she apparently got herself some sponsorships. She got them because she WON something, not because she WILL WIN something.

Learn to live in the moment and credit a win for what it's worth alone.
 
Mustard said:
I was thinking after Emma won the US Open "Keep focusing on your tennis and don't get too caught up in all the sponsors stuff, because you still have much to learn". Sucking up to sponsors while tennis results are declining was bound to lead to resentments from other players. It's better to be kind and modest, saying that you still have much to learn etc, than be seen as a Queen bee type lapping up all the sponsors while your results go downhill. It's youthful naivety.
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"Sorry but I'd rather not be sponsored by you at this time. I must appear humble and modest to the plebians, lest I be seen as a Queen bee type lapping up all the sponsors. Call me when I win my next Slam."

The type of crap I read on this forum I swear...
 
Wander said:
"Sorry but I'd rather not be sponsored by you at this time. I must appear humble and modest to the plebians, lest I be seen as a Queen bee type lapping up all the sponsors. Call me when I win my next Slam."

The type of crap I read on this forum I swear...
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Agreed.
Reality: An 18-year-old Emma Raducanu - in only her second slam appearance, and needing to go through qualies - wins the US Open without dropping a single set. In the final, she handily defeats another relative newcomer, Leylah Fernandez, who had electrified the crowd on her way to the finals.
During the fortnight, many of us learn about Emma's interesting background, and in every single moment - on and off the court - she is incredibly bright, poised, articulate and gracious.
A few opportunities come her way. Still trying to adjust to being a full-time pro tennis player, she has struggled a little in the half-year since, losing a lot of three-setters, etc. She also contracted Covid and has changed coaches since the USO.

50% of TTW Version: (in their minds, she's posing nude and posting to IG while she should be practicing - perhaps, even during matches on changeovers) She was lucky at the US Open; I mean, who did she beat? And now, she keeps firing coaches and proclaiming she's the best player.
She'll never win anything again - she's a spoiled brat - she's only concerned with her endorsement deals.
 
Smells like a nothing-burger.

I wanted to see if I could get a handle on the context of those comments, so I took a quick look around and couldn't find Kim's so-called interview with the WTA. Maybe it happened, but all I'm seeing are infantile tabloid troll pages referring to her interview and asserting that Kim seemingly takes aim at Emma. Please pass the salt...

If the princess club is going to be equal opportunity in this modern era, gotta at least give honorable mention to Jack Sock. That poor guy had to buy a whole new set of hats after winning the doubles title at Wimbledon.
 
Suspect the sheer amount of money earned by players now creates some jealousy. Was unaware Sloane has won over $16M.
 
A decent version of Clijsters would CYGS the **** out of the current tour. I do agree that present day female tennis players win too much money relative to the talent they have and the money they bring to the table.

It's like a loophole that has to be patched. Can't wait for a run of the mill male player to "transition" and beat Steffi Graf records. It's ripe for the taking.
 
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