close/semi-open stance has less power than open stance for my forehand, so confused

yoyofly

New User
Hi, I got another question that my coaches cannot seem to offer clear answers. I also posted clip, please let me know where do I do wrong.

So I have been learning this 'sit and lift' way of generating power from the ground up on forehand, I kinda getting the feeling pretty well. But now this 'sit and lift' way changes my feeling of neutral/semi-open stance, I feel I get less power since I cannot use my right leg to push.

Neutral stance is maybe ok since I guess I still get some weight transfer from back to front, but on a semi-open stance, I cannot get much weight transfer, I cannot push with my right leg that much, I feel much less powered. What should I do, should I just avoid semi-open stance? or how I can generate power from semi-open? Thank you!!!
 
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badmice2

Professional
Based on your video, when you're in closed stance, you're transferring your weight to your left too early. Around the :06 mark, you will noticed you pivoted and swung your right leg around. Your back leg drive in a close stance shouldn't change a whole lot. Your goal is not to get to your left as quickly as possible and spin/pivot, but rather, finish on your left. This is the biggest mis-conception - that pivot is not really driving a hip rotation, doing it wrong results in your left foot plant to spin your whole body.
 

yoyofly

New User
Based on your video, when you're in closed stance, you're transferring your weight to your left too early. Around the :06 mark, you will noticed you pivoted and swung your right leg around. Your back leg drive in a close stance shouldn't change a whole lot. Your goal is not to get to your left as quickly as possible and spin/pivot, but rather, finish on your left. This is the biggest mis-conception - that pivot is not really driving a hip rotation, doing it wrong results in your left foot plant to spin your whole body.
Man. That make sense. I see my left foot is spinning and my right leg swings. I guess the main power source is quite different. I mean there is no way I can generate power from ‘sit and lift’ on a close stance, can I ?
 

Lack

Rookie
From what I see, on open stance you have your center of gravity on your right foot really well during the impact. However, on that neutral/semi open stance your "sit and lift" is shifting your center of gravity too early from right to left during the impact. I suggest tilting your upper body to the right throughout the finish for now. This will prevent from overrotating.
 

badmice2

Professional
Man. That make sense. I see my left foot is spinning and my right leg swings. I guess the main power source is quite different. I mean there is no way I can generate power from ‘sit and lift’ on a close stance, can I ?
The technique is the same, in a righty's case the right side push off. Unlike the open stance where you go up, you want to push "out" as if you're lunging into the shot. Your right leg swinging out is a result of a follow through, not part of the motion to create power. Hence you see a lot of players in close stance will toe drag their right foot, it's to avoid exaggerating the swing.

Its why you constant see players doing lunges in warmup. Muscle memory + proper weight transfer.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
but on a semi-open stance, I cannot get much weight transfer, I cannot push with my right leg that much, I feel much less powered
I don't understand. The title says closed stance is less power. Then the post says the semi-open is less powered?
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
There are only two shots that you were in good position to hit hard, but looks like you were just trying to put the ball back in. Seems like you have a lot of potential for higher racquet head speed.
 

ubercat

Hall of Fame
Just point the toe of the rear foot down and drag it as you move weight onto front foot. I m no chas tennis bit as I understand it. Rotate right hip fwd before arm. That gives lag. Weight transfer, bit of rotation and lag altogether should give plenty of power. If you can hit the back fence with that shot you already have more power than you can use.
 

CAREDDINGTON

Semi-Pro
You must have the technique and proper release in order to keep the ball on the court. Topspin. Open stance uses more core rotation than closed, closed is more dependent on weight transfer.
 

CAREDDINGTON

Semi-Pro
I don't understand. The title says closed stance is less power. Then the post says the semi-open is less powered?
It sounds like you are trying to hammer the ball using your arm and not the larger muscle groups(core, legs, shoulders). And, on the video you look extremely tight on the racket grip.
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
Neutral tends to be the weakest shots for usable, consistent power. In your semi open, you tend to use it more like the neutral stance and less like an open stance.
 
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