Clubs closing thread.

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Notirouswithag

Professional
My club(6 courts, 4 bubble in winter) and 2 outdoor year round are open as of now, our tennis programs are running as normal.

Town over has directed the public tennis center(12 courts, 9 outdoor, 3 indoor year round) to cancwl all fitness,general class and tennis programs,and private lessons until april 30th. Only contract times are bwing honored

Havr a feeling in myind my club will shut soon
 

sovertennis

Professional
I live in upstate SC. AS of yesterday, USTA has suspended play for two weeks (until 3/27), although some of the teams are still going to play their matches then date the results after league play is reinstated. Our captain (55+ 9.0) asked our opponents if they'd like to play tomorrow at their club but they declined. The club where I play (15 outdoor courts) is open for play and lessons. I played there today but that may be the last time for awhile--time to practice social distancing. I can play with my wife at the nearby college courts anytime, as well as ride my bike.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Where I teach 1.5hr north of NYC, all clubs but 1 still open (and the one is only a 2 ct mini-club if you could even call it that). We're taking extra precautions and taking a wait/see approach as to what happens. Most adults/juniors came to their regular courts/clincis this weekend with only a couple calling out.

All local colleges basically shut down/down, seasons canceled, international players headed home on last flights out (Poland, Austria, England, Netherlands). Kind of surreal.
 

graycrait

Hall of Fame
My local university indoor facility along with the university is closed. I have to wait for good weather and the outdoor public courts.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Our club closes tomorrow at midnight for 30 days. As is every private club.

it’s imperative to flatten the curve on this to not end up like Europe.

Lockdown is probably inevitable. This is nastier than H1N1 and more infectious than SARS. Closest comparison is Spanish Flu of 1918.

wash your hands. Stay 6 feet away. Clean surfaces like doorknobs. Work at home if you can. This is real.
 

ttbrowne

Hall of Fame
4 indoor, 10 outdoor and we're open. About a 50% drop in participation.
And here's a tidbit about hysteria...Coronavirus is 10 times more deadly than the flu.
What does “ten times more lethal” mean? — the math is simple. If 40 million Americans get the seasonal flu, a 0.1 percent fatality rate means 40,000 deaths. If 40 million Americans get the new coronavirus, a 1 percent fatality rate means 400,000 deaths.
 

vex

Hall of Fame
Schools are the biggest petry dishes in the country because this isn't affecting kids as much as older people, so the kids have no symptoms and just walk around spreading it to each other. That's why so many schools were very quick to close.

Here's the math issue with this virus:


There is expected to be 100m exposures in the US. The mortality rate could be as low as 0.5% if we take drastic measures to contain it and slow the rate of spread or 3.5% if it is allowed to overwhelm the healthcare system (and the US has fewer hospital beds, ICU beds, and ventilators per capita than Italy - let that sink in for a second...). Do the math on that and the difference between containment and not is the difference between 500k deaths and 3.5m. These drastic containment measures could save 3 million lives in the US, or close to 1% of the country's population.

Here is some CDC modeling:


They model a worst case scenario closer to 200m exposures over the course of a year with 1.7m deaths and 21m hospitalizations. There are 925k total hospital beds in the whole country, so if they all hit at once, that's over 20 patients for every single bed in the country if every patient in every hospital with other maladies is kicked out.

I'm a math person. It's easy to see that the math says slowing the spread of this and handling it over as long of a period of time as possible is absolutely critical for the health of the country.
I think u dramatically underestimated the worst case scenario. Check the latest numbers from northern Italy For what happens to the death rage when you cannot provide appropriate treatment bc ur healthcare collapses. Yesterday I saw a report of 1000 deaths against 1200 recoveries...
 

Doctah

New User
Orlando, Florida. Private CC with 15 courts. still open, business as usual. Played yesterday and courts were generally filled like a normal Saturday.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
As of now my club is open, we have 9 indoor and 8 outdoor courts, indoor and outdoor pools, turf field and a full gym. I feel like it's too big to stay open for long.

My country club is proceeding as usual with extra hand sanitizer.

Seems like NY is heading to lockdown in days.

J
I thnk we could go insane not being able to play. all of us tennis players inject ourselfs with corona and play together then we won't give it to each other
 
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it’s imperative to flatten the curve on this to not end up like Europe.
Agreed. Not everybody knows what that means, though.

To flatten the curve means to spread out the # of new infections over a longer period of time to avoid the collapse of the health care system.

If you don't do anything and those infections are compressed into a small time frame, hospitals and health care workers will be overwhelmed, supplies will be depleted, and things like heart attacks will go untreated and result in a death that would not have occurred if the health care system was fully operational.

Think of it like a bridge: it can handle normal traffic. But if everyone tried to cross at once with heavy loads and vehicles, it might collapse; it wasn't designed for that load.

Or insurance: an insurance company can easily handle a few claims here and there. But if too many claims are submitted in too short of a time period, they will collapse.
 
And here's a tidbit about hysteria...Coronavirus is 10 times more deadly than the flu.
There are credible estimates that the factor is more like 30x. We won't know for sure until the pandemic is over; even then we might not know because how do we know if someone died of CV if they were never tested? For example, I read that one country stopped reporting the deaths as CV but changed the definition to "viral pneumonia". Changing definitions will not change the disease progression; in fact, it might make it worse because people aren't as concerned about as they should be.

So for those who still say "it's just the flu", I counter with 3 questions:
- What is R0 [infectivity: on average, if I'm infected, how many people will I infect]?
- What is the CFR [Case Fatality Rate]?
- What is the incubation period [time between becoming infected and becoming symptomatic]?

Note: this is based on my layman's interpretation of the data; I'm no epidemiologist.

R0[flu] = 1.8; R0[CV] = 3.5 - 7 [still a fluid situation]
CFR[flu] = 0.1%; CFR[CV] = 2-3%
Incubation[flu] = a few days; Incubation[CV] = ? [standard quarantine is 14 days but that might not be enough]

These 3 data points combine to make CV a much nastier customer than the flu. And that's not even taking into account the inevitable mutations that will occur [some of which might make it more benign but some more virulent].

My main source:


Martenson has a PhD in toxicology, so, while not an epidemiologist, he's got a medical background. He's also intelligent enough to observe and connect the dots and non-dogmatic enough to go where the data takes him. He's been warning about CV since late January [not February]. He noticed China quarantined 11 million people in Wuhan and thought "That's not the flu."
 

Vox Rationis

Semi-Pro
Business as usual at my club (15 indoor courts). Biggest change is we have someone disinfecting/cleaning everything twice a day now. It's a little less crowded than usual but most of that is the lack of USTA matches which always made this time of year packed with people.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Business as usual at my club (15 indoor courts). Biggest change is we have someone disinfecting/cleaning everything twice a day now. It's a little less crowded than usual but most of that is the lack of USTA matches which always made this time of year packed with people.
Anyone noticed the bars are still packed liked sardine cans this weekend? Corona blarney is working its magic.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Agreed. Not everybody knows what that means, though.

To flatten the curve means to spread out the # of new infections over a longer period of time to avoid the collapse of the health care system.
If people weren't aware of that particular term I'd strongly recommend watching the news, reading the newspaper, or googling COVID-19. The spike in cases as the infection spreads exponentially has been the overwhelming problem. Death rate climbs when the the system gets overwhelmed.

US currently has 3000 cases. 15% require hospitalization (450 cases) and 5% require ventilators (150 cases). That's a big spike in hospital beds used and ICU utilization at an early stage. In a week, when it's 30,000 cases, you will have 1500 people needing ventilators. Given most ICU's run near capacity, that's a massive uptick.

And Wuhan went all draconian at 444 cases and 27 deaths. And even then they had 80,000 cases. The US is about to get totally nailed by this. just like Europe, and most of the population is still oblivious.

I thnk we could go insane not being able to play. all of us tennis players inject ourselfs with corona and play together then we won't give it to each other
Blaise Pascal said, 350 years ago, "All of humanity's problems are related to Man's inability to sit still in a quiet room."
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Which Country/City ?
Boston, LA, Toledo......................picked up breakfast at Bob Evans carryout. Every table was full, seat taken. Church across the street live streaming their service. Folks filling the grocers' parking lot an hour before the store opened. Then bum-rushing the store like Black Friday when it opened.
 
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Injured Again

Hall of Fame
Our club will be instituting a tennis-only policy. No clubhouse, no gym, no showers, no viewing areas. Only bathrooms and court access. No guests - members only and we must take everything we use with us when we leave immediately after playing, like the tennis balls. No hoppers or ball baskets, water dispensers will be removed from the courts, and furniture removed from common areas to discourage lingering.

Many clubs in our area have closed so we are trying to do our best to stay open. We feel this is a good compromise so if any of you are in a position of influence, this is an option you can present.
 

Doan

Rookie
US-Lewes, Rehoboth Beach, Delaware
Inteesting. Thought it might be one of places which hasn't declared state of emergency - but Delaware isn't one of them and has 7 cases confirmed so far. Might as well get as much money in before all the pubs/bars are ordered to close.
 
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pats300zx1

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Inteesting. Thought it might be one of places which hasn't declared state of emergency - but Delaware isn't one of them and has 7 cases confirmed so far. Might as well get as much money in before all the pubs/bars are ordered to close.
State of Emergency is declared and they have ordered schools closed for 2 weeks. What's even more scary is that they started closing liquor store in Pennsylvania :(
 

tpro2000

Rookie
We just cancelled programs for next week, still open for privates.

J
Obviously I know where you are J, is that for the whole area or just your club? Are you running private clinic groups or just private lessons? My guess is we don't make it through the week before closing. Thankful tomorrow is a pay day....
 
Moot point now. Restaurants are closed for dining in as of 9 pm tonight in Ohio. Bars closed too. Only carry out and delivery of food. https://www.10tv.com/article/gov-dewine-announces-closure-ohio-bars-dine-restaurants-2020-mar
Illinois Governor just announced closure of restaurants and bars until March 30:

 

E46luver

Professional
interesting to see which clubs close and which do not. I am getting emails from one high priced club who is staying open. All this does is confirm that club is a shameless money grubbin ho'
 

rogerroger917

Hall of Fame
Clinics and all groups activities closed. All teams. Etc... tennis avail for members. Private lessons avail.



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Notirouswithag

Professional
As others have said same for my club in northern va.

Group tennis programs(adult and jr) are postphoned until March 30th at the minimum. We can only give privates
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Obviously I know where you are J, is that for the whole area or just your club? Are you running private clinic groups or just private lessons? My guess is we don't make it through the week before closing. Thankful tomorrow is a pay day....
All academy programs and groups and high school and not for profit programs cancelled, I assume I can still do private clinics. I think NYS is going to put us on lockdown by next week.

I got almost a full week worth of hours in but next week there is going to be dust in the pay envelope lol.

J
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
All this, and federal government in DC won’t authorize telework for those of us who already telework two times a week. So they want me to get on a crowded bus and crowded subway twice a day?

Not gonna happen.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
All this, and federal government in DC won’t authorize telework for those of us who already telework two times a week. So they want me to get on a crowded bus and crowded subway twice a day?

Not gonna happen.
If you work in the private sector, it is up to the employer to decide the policy. The Fed government cannot dictate what companies in the private sector should do.
If you work in the government sector, presumably the Fed govt will allow telework given that you are already telecommuting. But who knows how the Feds think.
 

Vox Rationis

Semi-Pro
I just learned the newest club in my city has closed. But they don't really have a lot of members since they built themselves across the street from an already existing club :rolleyes: . They made all their money from hosting various tournaments (cancelled) and college matches/practices (postponed). So with no real way to make money they've closed.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
All this, and federal government in DC won’t authorize telework for those of us who already telework two times a week. So they want me to get on a crowded bus and crowded subway twice a day?

Not gonna happen.
So, I just read that today's statement from the OMB was to maximize all telework opportunities to all in the DC area ...
 

atatu

Legend
The City of Austin just announced that they are closing public pools, golf courses and recreation centers, and I assume that includes the city run tennis facilities.
 

Cloister

Rookie
State of Washington closure announcement includes gyms, fitness centers, and rec facilities. Closure email from tennis club followed shortly after. Through March 31 (for now - I fully expect it to extend longer).
 

Notirouswithag

Professional
So, I just read that today's statement from the OMB was to maximize all telework opportunities to all in the DC area ...
Pretty much.

Alot of friends including my s/o who works for theamerican college of radiology just outside of DC were told to telework until further notice

Its nice because now it takes me less than 25 minutes to get most places locally instead of 45
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Pretty much.

Alot of friends including my s/o who works for theamerican college of radiology just outside of DC were told to telework until further notice

Its nice because now it takes me less than 25 minutes to get most places locally instead of 45
Noticed traffic was lighter than usual.
 

Doan

Rookie
All this, and federal government in DC won’t authorize telework for those of us who already telework two times a week. So they want me to get on a crowded bus and crowded subway twice a day?
Not gonna happen.
Depends on the agency. Yours might just be slower to react that others. However, with the latest OMB guidelines released Sunday evening you should be good to telework. Unfortunately, there's no way for me to telework.

"The Office of Management and Budget has asked agencies in the national capital region to offer telework to all eligible employees, in light of the rapidly evolving coronavirus pandemic.
Though not a mandate or direct order, OMB’s new guidance, issued Sunday evening, uses the strongest language yet in response to COVID-19, the illness caused by the current strain of the coronavirus.

“We encourage agencies to use all existing authorities to offer telework to additional employees, to the extent their work could be telework enabled,” Russell Vought, OMB’s acting director, said Sunday night. “If employees are not eligible for telework, agency heads have the discretion to offer weather and safety leave, or the agency’s equivalent, including for employees who may not have been considered ‘at higher risk.'”
 
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