College Football 2017: The Road To Atlanta

National Champion?

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stringertom

stringertom

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Mr.Lob said:
Clemson holds on against Miami and I think you nailed it. Ohio State beats Wisconsin and the Big 10 is left out in the cold.
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Pope Urban will smite the evil Satan from Bama, a lowly fake archangel without a division or conference title. All that believe differently are heretics and will be burned at the stake!
 
r2473

r2473

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Sweet justice for OSU to win the Big 10 championship and get passed over for the playoffs for a non conference champion with one fewer loss. Hoping that's what we see

And for me, how sweet that a crappy 7-5 Iowa team would play the pivotal role ;)
 
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stringertom

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Congrats to UCF and Scott Frost...now the sole undefeated team in the BCS. What a turnaround from winless in 2015 before he left Oregon to take his first HC position. Now he's going home to Nebraska to try and rebuild the program that he led to a national title as their QB.
 
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Chadillac

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bama, osu, clemson and georgia.

If ucf cant get in, why should a big 12
 
stringertom

stringertom

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Suggesting a two-loss team is in over a conference champion one-loss team that won their h2h matchup on the road by 15...priceless!:eek:
 
Kevin T

Kevin T

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Chadillac said:
bama, osu, clemson and georgia.

If ucf cant get in, why should a big 12
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Why not USC? Beat a good Stanford team twice, conference champ (just like the Buckeyes), got waxed once (just like the Buckeyes) but at least their other loss was a nail biter on the road in torrential rain, unlike OSU getting owned on their home field. For Karma’s sake, the Bucks should get passed over like Penn St. last year. And if Florida St had the year that was expected, Bama would have a signature win and this wouldn’t be an argument. Can wait to see what happens. :)


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r2473

r2473

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Kevin T said:
Why not USC? Beat a good Stanford team twice, conference champ (just like the Buckeyes), got waxed once (just like the Buckeyes) but at least their other loss was a nail biter on the road in torrential rain, unlike OSU getting owned on their home field. For Karma’s sake, the Bucks should get passed over like Penn St. last year. And if Florida St had the year that was expected, Bama would have a signature win and this wouldn’t be an argument. Can wait to see what happens. :)


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USCs fate was sealed when they were placed 10th in the playoff rankings. No real reason why USC and Ohio State couldn't have been in each other's positions. Alabama was placed where they were with intent and purpose. It keeps them in the picture. Could have easily just put Ohio State above them last week and sent a clear message. But they didn't

What the committee seems to try to do is make Championship weekend the 1/4 final round. Problem is, they have 5 power conferences and only 4 slots. So you have to push one of the conferences out of contention before that. In this case the PAC 12.

This would be cut and dried if Ohio State didn't have such a bad season. That brings into play a team like Alabama. Which really shouldn't happen, but does all the time.

In some sense what you want is for the playoffs to be a battle of the power conferences. Each team gets one representative. That's how this was envisioned I think. And on some level, makes sense. EVEN IF those 4 conference champions aren't the 4 best teams. What needs to go is the ranking system. That should only be applicable to teams that don't make the playoffs (well, I guess you need something to seed the 4 playoff teams). Or just have a straight tie in system. Runners up in the Power 5 (and the champion left out) are tied into the next tier of bowls. After that, nobody cares, so let all other bowls basically invite who they want.

The reason why what I say won't work is because what really drives the process is money. And to some extent that is driven by ratings. That's why last year they had to take OSU over Penn State (Imagine if OSU and Penn State traded resumes last year. OSU still would have gotten in). This year, the decision is different because both OSU and Alabama drive ratings.

OSU is not a good team at all and they will get absolutely waxed by Clemson again. Alabama is at least as good as the other 3. And this is pretty common knowledge I'd say. So in this sense, it will be interesting to see which way the committee goes. I'm thinking Alabama to avoid an embarrassing blow out of OSU two years in a row, when both years OSU was questionable to be in the playoffs at all. Looks bad. But, the Big 10 is still powerful, so it's hard to not let them have a representative. The politics might push in OSU and then they just pray OSU doesn't get blown out.

The mistake would be to believe that what ESPN jabbers about as to why OSU or Alabama get in is the actual story. It's not. That's just how the selection is rationalized to the public. But the selection is made for other "behind closed doors" reasons.
 
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r2473

r2473

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r2473 said:
OK guys. Let's hear it. Who are the 4 playoff teams?

First off, the winners today will be UCF, Oklahoma, Georgia, OSU, and Clemson

1) Clemson
2) Oklahoma
3) Georgia
4) Alabama
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If you just listen to me, you could have done something else and not wasted your time watching football or selection committee's this weekend.

I could tell you how the playoffs will go, but I won't spoil it for you :D
 
Federer and Del Potro

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MSU playing Washington State in the Holiday Bowl zzzz. Won't even bother watching tbh. Was hoping for Outback, more fun to play an SEC team.

Not really impressed with the non CFB playoff slate of games.
 
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osutennis24

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jaggy said:
An ohio state u making it would have been so wrong
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So was Bama

Neither team deserved to be honest. Bama literally backed into the playoffs. Toughest opponent they played and they laid an egg

But also can't get pantsed by Iowa and expect to get in either

Wish they would get rid of the committee so we can have some defined rules. Ridiculous every single year the criteria has been different.

2014: Conf titles are important!!
2015: Conf Champs are important!
2016: Resumes matter more than Conf champs and who you beat is more important than who you lost to!
2017: We Want Bama
 
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osutennis24

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Hell, you could make an argument Wisconsin deserved it more than Bama

Wisconsin:

  • Didn't win conference
  • 1 loss to top 10 team
  • 12 wins
  • Best win against 8-4 team
  • Strength of record - #6
  • Sagarin strength of schedule - #50
Alabama:

  • Didn't win conference
  • 1 loss to top 10 team
  • 11 wins
  • Best win against 9-3 team
  • Strength of record - #4
  • Sagarin strength of schedule - #56
 
stringertom

stringertom

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r2473 said:
If you just listen to me, you could have done something else and not wasted your time watching football or selection committee's this weekend.

I could tell you how the playoffs will go, but I won't spoil it for you :D
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I want to hear, Nostra-r2! Will Clemson run 100 offensive plays and wear down the thin Bama defense, pulling off another last second nail biter? Or will Bama prevail and set up an all-SEC title game. I know OU is irrelevant because they have no D in Oklahoma.
 
Dedans Penthouse

Dedans Penthouse

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r2473 said:
USCs fate was sealed when they were placed 10th in the playoff rankings. No real reason why USC and Ohio State couldn't have been in each other's positions. Alabama was placed where they were with intent and purpose. It keeps them in the picture. Could have easily just put Ohio State above them last week and sent a clear message. But they didn't
What the committee seems to try to do is make Championship weekend the 1/4 final round. Problem is, they have 5 power conferences and only 4 slots. So you have to push one of the conferences out of contention before that. In this case the PAC 12.
This would be cut and dried if Ohio State didn't have such a bad season. That brings into play a team like Alabama. .
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Alabama (injuries aside) never came close to having 55 points shoved down their throats and by an UNRANKED team no less (let alone getting tinkled on by the Sooners).

OSU: routed twice.
'Bama: no routs (one loss on the road to #6 team)

No brainer imho.

Please selection committee, not another repeat of Clemson going full '31-0 cherub' on OSU again... :)


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Mr.Lob

Mr.Lob

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I'm picking Clemson over Bama.
Georgia over Oklahoma.

The national champs will be Clemson by 4 points.

The A.C.C Rules again!
 
Kevin T

Kevin T

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Dedans Penthouse said:
Alabama (injuries aside) never came close to having 55 points shoved down their throats and by an UNRANKED team no less (let alone getting tinkled on by the Sooners).

OSU: routed twice.
'Bama: no routs (one loss on the road to #6 team)

No brainer imho.

Please selection committee, not another repeat of Clemson going full '31-0 cherub' on OSU again... :)


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Absolutely, DP. Two close losses and I'm swayed to put OSU in, given that overall the Big 10 has been the most solid top to bottom conference this year. That Iowa loss would be like losing by 30 to Miss St. Also, Auburn is a rivalry game on a neutral field and I think the committee gives Bama the benefit of the doubt.

Looking forward to OSU vs USC. I'm with Mr Lob RE his game predictions but I think Clemson can beat GA by 10+ points. Early Vegas lines have Bama and Oklahoma as favorites.
 
stringertom

stringertom

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Kevin T said:
Absolutely, DP. Two close losses and I'm swayed to put OSU in, given that overall the Big 10 has been the most solid top to bottom conference this year. That Iowa loss would be like losing by 30 to Miss St. Also, Auburn is a rivalry game on a neutral field and I think the committee gives Bama the benefit of the doubt.

Looking forward to OSU vs USC. I'm with Mr Lob RE his game predictions but I think Clemson can beat GA by 10+ points. Early Vegas lines have Bama and Oklahoma as favorites.
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Jordan Hare is not a neutral field.
 
Kevin T

Kevin T

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stringertom said:
Jordan Hare is not a neutral field.
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Right, not in the technical sense. But Bama travels so many fans to Jordan Hare, that it's darn near split in the stands most years. Certainly as close to neutral as you could get in a rival's house. Alabama and Kentucky are the two most obvious states that are home to 2 large and successful programs but the very large majority cheers for one of the teams. I remember seeing a map of UK vs Louisville fans in the state and UK owned every county with the exception of Jefferson County (L-ville area). I'd be willing to bet that it's a similar situation for Bama/Auburn.

On a positive note, Scott Frost leaving with about as much class as possible these days. And on the other side, UCF sending him off with class. Kudos to both. Frost looks like he could still suit up and play! Dude is a beast.
 
stringertom

stringertom

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Kevin T said:
Right, not in the technical sense. But Bama travels so many fans to Jordan Hare, that it's darn near split in the stands most years. Certainly as close to neutral as you could get in a rival's house. Alabama and Kentucky are the two most obvious states that are home to 2 large and successful programs but the very large majority cheers for one of the teams. I remember seeing a map of UK vs Louisville fans in the state and UK owned every county with the exception of Jefferson County (L-ville area). I'd be willing to bet that it's a similar situation for Bama/Auburn.

On a positive note, Scott Frost leaving with about as much class as possible these days. And on the other side, UCF sending him off with class. Kudos to both. Frost looks like he could still suit up and play! Dude is a beast.
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Before Bryant Denny and Jordan Hare were expanded The Iron Bowl had been played at Birmingham's Legion Field.

Interesting factoid...Alabama resident students at Tuscaloosa are in a minority by a wide margin (this year's graduating class was a 38/62 split). Auburn's numbers are the opposite (59/41).

Frost is all class and indeed he is in playing shape enough to play QB on the scout team during practices when UCF was prepping for opponents with an option offense.
 
Kevin T

Kevin T

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Been to more than one game at the Iron Bowl. SEC championship back in the 90's and a Bama/Auburn game. The ugliness approaches a Raiders game. :) Great to watch on TV but not a fan of the seriousness and animosity between the fan bases. So many fights, it's embarrassing.

Didn't know that about Frost. I can believe it. Glad to see the Huskers bring in a coach that can put them back in the national spotlight. I always pulled for Nebraska in high school, as my team ran an option attack. It will be interesting to see if he can pull more of those Florida players to cold and windy Lincoln after making connections the last few years.

Big 10 loading up with prime coaches. SEC needs to step up their coaching game or we'll see more bad years coming their way.
 
r2473

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Kevin T said:
Absolutely, DP. Two close losses and I'm swayed to put OSU in, given that overall the Big 10 has been the most solid top to bottom conference this year. That Iowa loss would be like losing by 30 to Miss St. Also, Auburn is a rivalry game on a neutral field and I think the committee gives Bama the benefit of the doubt.
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I don't think the Iowa loss was bad at all. It was expected if you ask me ;)
 
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Chadillac

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Really fixed but they did give us good games. OSU vs USC matchup is probably why they left osu out, huge game money wise and brings back tradition of the pac10 vs the big 10.

I wanna see ucf beat auburn and bama winning the national title. That would make ucf national champs :)
 
Kevin T

Kevin T

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jaggy said:
The Nebraska football fan base could be the classiest in all of college sports.
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Agreed. That's my experience, as well. My friends in Blacksburg always speak highly of their fans after the Huskers came to Va Tech a few years ago.
 
r2473

r2473

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jaggy said:
The Nebraska football fan base could be the classiest in all of college sports.
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Kevin T said:
Agreed. That's my experience, as well. My friends in Blacksburg always speak highly of their fans after the Huskers came to Va Tech a few years ago.
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You call this a classy fan base?

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stringertom

stringertom

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An OU RB with an assault predicament? What else is new???

This time there's no video but a protective order has been issued on behalf of a woman who claims she was the victim of sexual assault by the Sooners' leading rusher Rodney Anderson.

Time for investigators and lawyers to sort out another mess.
 
stringertom

stringertom

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FSU pries Willie Taggart away from his one-year pit stop at Oregon. Six years, $30million. Jim Leavitt, DC at Oregon with Taggart, will travel back to the Sunshine State where he also was a HC at USF for more than a decade. Adding Leavitt may be even more crucial to turning around the underperforming defensive side. He made UUUGGGEEE improvements with the Ducks in the one season.
 
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