College players in US summer Futures and Challengers

Sureshot

Rookie
With more pro experience I think he wins that type of match more in a year or so. To get better returning the Isner type serve has to be done in more live match situations like last night.

Agree 100% on the WC's. At the very least Ben should get them into the rest of the US tour stops. Citi, Cinci, Winston-Salem, San Diego.
Yes, it’s Isner’s serve so I’d cut him some slack but watching the match I felt he was sometimes giving away his return position a bit too early as Isner was setting up to serve. I get that returning his serve is pretty much like a soccer goalie guessing on a PK and going but maybe that can improve the more he sees the big servers
 

armchair

New User
Shelton would be crazy dumb to stay in college. He'd just be wasting a year of professional development. Pro careers don't last forever.

I'm amazed that Izner is still playing, at age 37. Has he had any serious injuries in his career--been out for a prolonged period? Tennis is going to take more of a toll on a 6'10 body
than it is someone who is smaller, so the fact that he's stayed relatively healthy (I assume) is fairly remarkable. He's surely been helped by the fact that he runs less in a match than just about anybody, given how short most of his points are--both when he is serving (good for him) and when he is returning (not good). He's always been a one-dimensional player--but it's the best single dimension to have.
 

andfor

Legend
I believe Isner has a chronic knee issue, maybe arthritis from wear and tear. Remember he plays more TB’s than anyone on tour.
 

vandre

Hall of Fame
k so 3 days into our local futures tournament...
...u of i alum zeke clark took down uva senior/ new grad gianni ross 2 and 5. ross hit some downright brutal winners but "all day zeke" was able to hold on to seal the w in the business end of the second set.
... kweisi kenyatte was forced to retire in his first round match (really tough break...)
... hunter heck was able to pull out a win in the third set tie-breaker to advance in singles
... az's murphy cassone is into the second round after beating auburn's tyler stice in straights
...osu's tyler zink edged illini wc alex petrov 3 and 1 (the trainer seemed to be active in this match)
...duke's garrett johns defeated illini wc and hometown fav lucas horve 1 and 4
...incoming michigan recruit bjorn swenson was 1-0 in the third when his opponent, baylor's adrian boitan, had to retire
... michigan wc patrick maloney won in straights over seita watanabe

... there currently is a logjam of matches due to torrential rains yesterday and today. today's unfinished matches were moved to the atkins center (1 hour away) and as of 8:35 p.m. on day 3, not a single ball has been struck on the doubles side. it is going to be interesting...
 

vandre

Hall of Fame
***update*** as of three minutes ago, the round of 16 singles and doubles matches will be played indoors at the atkins center tomorrow...
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Hijikata is playing against the World #1 on Stadium court in a main tour event and he has on a Nike hat, a no name grey t-shirt, Lululemon shorts, Fila socks and Yones shoes. Go to a Futures or some Challengers and you'll see players in similar mis-matched kits. It shows how tough it is for some of these players trying to work their way up the rankings.
 

anirbandutta

New User
Several aspects make playing college tennis hard. Few on top of my mind are:

1) Coaches pick from a global pool of players so if makes it very competitive to get in and get a slot.
2) There is no one selection criterion. Academics combined with UTR, ITF / ATP of WTA ranking, WTN now are all part of selection criterion.
3) Right fitment goes beyond academic and sports matching. Gelling with team, understanding how coaches operate etc and also key success measures.
4) The governing body rules are confusing. It’s so easy to become academically non compliant or lose amateur status. Knowing the rules is key in planning for college tennis.

We have added several articles on how college coaches are evaluated and how they evaluate players in Tennis Wizard.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
Hijikata is playing against the World #1 on Stadium court in a main tour event and he has on a Nike hat, a no name grey t-shirt, Lululemon shorts, Fila socks and Yones shoes. Go to a Futures or some Challengers and you'll see players in similar mis-matched kits. It shows how tough it is for some of these players trying to work their way up the rankings.
I only saw game or two of this match when I had left TV on after Citi. I was impressed with how Rinky fought off 3 breakpoints on his serve early in 2nd playing world #1. Seems like he has bright future.
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
I only saw game or two of this match when I had left TV on after Citi. I was impressed with how Rinky fought off 3 breakpoints on his serve early in 2nd playing world #1. Seems like he has bright future.
Agree, don't think he'll be in mis-matched kits for long. He competes well and it will hopefully pay off.
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Hijikata is playing against the World #1 on Stadium court in a main tour event and he has on a Nike hat, a no name grey t-shirt, Lululemon shorts, Fila socks and Yones shoes. Go to a Futures or some Challengers and you'll see players in similar mis-matched kits. It shows how tough it is for some of these players trying to work their way up the rankings.
I hope you are joking about the Lululemon shorts because Lululemon apparel is quite expensive, and not many people can afford it.
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
not joking...

they can be bought for the same price as Nike, Fila or Adidas retail shorts.
 
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jmnk

Hall of Fame
bob, you're good fun on these forums, but you're making Lululemon sound like Versace here

even some of us commoners can afford Lululemon
I mean we do have to save some extra, or skimp on Starbucks here and there to afford it, or perhaps get lucky on the stock market. But I agree it is doable :)
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
bob, you're good fun on these forums, but you're making Lululemon sound like Versace here

even some of us commoners can afford Lululemon
No it is not Versace price but still expensive, a lot more than Uniqlo. I bought Uniqlo shorts and tennis shirts for $4.90 per short or per shirt. I don't think you could Lululemon short or shirt for $4.90, even when they are on sale.
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
I mean we do have to save some extra, or skimp on Starbucks here and there to afford it, or perhaps get lucky on the stock market. But I agree it is doable :)
Lot of people with Equinox gym membership wear Lululemon. That's what I noticed when I go to Equinox. The only reason I am member at Equinox is because my employer subsidize almost 80% of the membership cost and that I can cancel the membership at anytime. And I wear $4.90 Uniqlo short and shirt to Equinox gym membership ;)
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
Lot of people with Equinox gym membership wear Lululemon. That's what I noticed when I go to Equinox. The only reason I am member at Equinox is because my employer subsidize almost 80% of the membership cost and that I can cancel the membership at anytime. And I wear $4.90 Uniqlo short and shirt to Equinox gym membership ;)
I enjoy watching the Equinox exercisers from my box seat.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
let's stop making fun of bob for Lululemon being an exclusive brand

and instead i'd like to once again make fun of him for these comments directed at Juncheng Shang

Shang just won the Lexington CH, is up to 241 in the world at the age of 17

along the way in Lexington, he gave Dostanic a bagel, took down a red hot Kovacevic, and routined world #114 Gomez 4,4 in the final

so, you know, maybe some of those college coaches would want him on their team after all - might be worth a full scholarship and a pair of Lululemons from a booster

I am back home after watching the match between Juncheng Shang (aka Jerry Shang) and Derrick Chen. Jerry Shang is the current #1 ITF tennis player at the age of 16 years old. He has good ground strokes and smart player but this dude absolutely has ZERO weapons to hurt anyone. His serve is so average, when he serves, he is about 1/2 foot off the ground which is not much of a jump. He is more a defensive player. Physically, he doesn't look intimidating to me. He looks kind of skinny at 5 feet 9 inches, I think he should spend more time in the gym.

Shang reminds me of another player who won the 2018 FO Junior champ, Jason Tseng. Tseng was the #1 Junior player in the world but he is currently ranked 286th. Shang probably has reached his highest potential, IMO.

While I was there watching tennis matches, I also got to talk to several college tennis coaches and I ask them "what is the probability that you will give someone a full tennis scholarship at your school?" The answer is universally "almost never". I then asked "what is the probably that you will give Shang a full ride at your school?" The answer is almost universally "Maybe". I was very surprised by the response that they said "maybe" to the #1 ITF Junior player.
next up on the CH circuit is Chicago, where Gomez / Kova / Shelton are all in the same interesting section
 
let's stop making fun of bob for Lululemon being an exclusive brand

and instead i'd like to once again make fun of him for these comments directed at Juncheng Shang

Shang just won the Lexington CH, is up to 241 in the world at the age of 17

along the way in Lexington, he gave Dostanic a bagel, took down a red hot Kovacevic, and routined world #114 Gomez 4,4 in the final

so, you know, maybe some of those college coaches would want him on their team after all - might be worth a full scholarship and a pair of Lululemons from a booster



next up on the CH circuit is Chicago, where Gomez / Kova / Shelton are all in the same interesting section
Shang is not 17. He's "allegedly" an age cheat. Supposedly was banned from Junior USTA for it in 2018 (summer, I think). Still a good player, though.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
next up on the CH circuit is Chicago, where Gomez / Kova / Shelton are all in the same interesting section
I saw that Kova and Shelton will play each other for the 3rd time this summer in the 2nd rd provided they win their 1st rounds. Tennys Sandgren (Tenn) is back to playing Challengers-actually the Qualis of Chicago Challenger. Interesting matchups of former teammates in Chicago: Evan Zhu vs Keegan Smith UCLA in Q2s, Donstanic vs Holt USC in Q2s (did Holt graduate b4 Dostanic started?) A former MM player is in Chicago Qualis-Henry Patten of UNC-Asheville. He is up to 140 in dubs (played Wimbledon), 487 singles. I read that after the 4th week of results, Kovacevic is still in the lead for the US Open Wild card with Evan Zhu in 2nd place-the winner will be the player with best 3 results over a 5 week period. https://www.tennis-tourtalk.com/93632/kovacevic-krueger-continue-to-lead-us-open-wild-card-challenge

At the Qualis for National Open in Montreal, Diallo of Kentucky beat Duckworth ATP #59. Unfortunately he lost his 2nd rd Qualis. He was the only one of 6 Canadians in Qualis to win a round. Quite a feat for college players to get in 1000 Qualis (Draxl got in too on WC but lost). Galarneau (NC State alumni) received wC into MD
 
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Gemini

Hall of Fame
I saw that Kova and Shelton will play each other for the 3rd time this summer in the 2nd rd provided they win their 1st rounds. Tennys Sandgren (Tenn) is back to playing Challengers-actually the Qualis of Chicago Challenger. Interesting matchups of former teammates in Chicago: Evan Zhu vs Keegan Smith UCLA in Q2s, Donstanic vs Holt USC in Q2s (did Holt graduate b4 Dostanic started?) A former MM player is in Chicago Qualis-Henry Patten of UNC-Asheville. He is up to 140 in dubs (played Wimbledon), 487 singles. I read that after the 4th week of results, Kovacevic is still in the lead for the US Open Wild card with Evan Zhu in 2nd place-the winner will be the player with best 3 results over a 5 week period. https://www.tennis-tourtalk.com/93632/kovacevic-krueger-continue-to-lead-us-open-wild-card-challenge

At the Qualis for National Open in Montreal, Diallo of Kentucky beat Duckworth ATP #59. Unfortunately he lost his 2nd rd Qualis. He was the only one of 6 Canadians in Qualis to win a round. Quite a feat for college players to get in 1000 Qualis (Draxl got in too on WC but lost). Galarneau (NC State alumni) received wC into MD
@jcgatennismom -- Dostanic was a freshman when Holt was a senior so they had one year as teammates.
 
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Please give a source because there is absolutely nothing of this online.

Or stop making up lies to try and devalue a young kids hard work.
And we all know that if it's not online, then it didn't happen lol.
I don't care if you don't believe me. Just checked with my source, who said it was a 6 month ban.
Thing is, he's still a good player, even if he is 19 or 20.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
Please give a source because there is absolutely nothing of this online.

Or stop making up lies to try and devalue a young kids hard work.
I went back and forth between thinking it didn’t even deserve a reply and saying exactly what you said

frankly he looks as young as he’s reported to be

chalk up unsubstantiated claims to jealousy
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
I went back and forth between thinking it didn’t even deserve a reply and saying exactly what you said

frankly he looks as young as he’s reported to be

chalk up unsubstantiated claims to jealousy

Well, nobody knew the severity of Aaron Hernandez's criminal offense while he was at UF until many years after he left Gainesville, under Urban Meyer watch. This kid is from Communist China so you don't know if the communist doctored the birth certificate. Anything goes in China. Just saying.

Does the ITF or USTA publish the suspension of a player or is that under the "privacy" act?
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
Well, nobody knew the severity of Aaron Hernandez's criminal offense while he was at UF until many years after he left Gainesville, under Urban Meyer watch. This kid is from Communist China so you don't know if the communist doctored the birth certificate. Anything goes in China. Just saying.

Does the ITF or USTA publish the suspension of a player or is that under the "privacy" act?
by policy, they only have to tell the Pope and jrtennisparent
 

jmnk

Hall of Fame
[..] This kid is from Communist China so you don't know if the communist doctored the birth certificate. Anything goes in China. Just saying.

Does the ITF or USTA publish the suspension of a player or is that under the "privacy" act?
an honest question. If 'the communist doctored the birth certificate' - how would ITF/USTA ever find out/prove what his real age is so they could suspend him? I'm really interested in what you think the logic here is
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
In the WCs that dont make sense category, a 10.22 D3 (Denison) player from Columbus was given a WC into MD, not Qualis. Why didnt they just let him play Qualis? Put him in Qualis and bring up one Qualis player to MD. However he drew the 2 seed so his pro experience should be very short. If the TD wanted to give a d3 player a WC, James Hopper of Case Western in Cleveland would have been a much better choice. James was 97 on the alternate list (114 alternates at freeze and yet there were 10 byes in Qualis). Usually if an alternate in top 25 shows up, he gets in. However only 5 of the top 25 alts showed up. 9 of the alternates who signed in and who got to play were 50-99. Hopper was 97-guess he thought he wouldnt get in. Just a 2 hour drive from Cleveland to Columbus... Now Joey Dillon, UTR 4.0 has lost his 5th 0,0 match but garnered an open spot in MD dubs with 39 year Varun Luthra (6.81) who has the illustrious record of 1-17 in Qualis (he won a match vs a 3.61UTR). They played an OSU pari and lost 0,0. Once you win a Quali match, you can usually get in other Qualis. Joey has been featured in a Cracked Racquets podcast, in a blog, and had video of his match on twitter. I sure hope this does not inspire rec players to sign up as alternates for local Challengers. Tennis does not need a bunch of Varuns playing 17 Futures. Tennis has a bad enough rap if you followed the US Open twitter replies to "tennis is not a sport." Allowing rec players to play pro events does not help. If you are a rec player who never played college, at most play one Quali as a bucket list. Better to convince the TD to host a Pro Am where rec players can pay to hit with $needing young pros.

That rant out of the way, in spite of a weak Quali draw, the main draw is fantastic after the 1st round with #217 Rinky H playing (why didnt he play a Challenger, Clement Chidekh of Oregon (489), Kyle Edmund former #14 (2018) as well as US
 
Columbus futures
quarterfinal matchups...with current college players
Cannon Kingsley vs. Rinky Hikijata
Murphy Cassone vs. Sam Riffice
Patrick Maloney vs. Sekou Bangoura

Cancun futures
Tyler Zink has won 2 singles matches and will play #3 seed Adam Walton in the quarters

Zink and Walton are playing doubles and will play in the semis later today
Zink has won 4 consecutive doubles titles over the past 6 weeks (3 different partners ...2 of the 4 were with George Goldhoff)
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
A straight sets victory over world #104 Jordan Thompson brings Shelton into the top 250
having just clicked through the key moments of the match replay on challenger tv - Ben is tough as nails - that’s as wild as a 7-6,6-4 match gets

14-12 tiebreak

then had to win the match three times, with multiple overrules / line calls going against him in his final service game

shook it off and kept balling
 
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Columbus futures
Impressive win for Murphy Cassone
4-6,7-5,6-4 over Sam Riffice (2 . 5 hour match)
top seed Hikijata over Cannon Kingsley 3-6,6-3,6-3
impressive win for Patrick Maloney...4 and 4 over Sekou Bangoura

Justin Boulais and James Kent Trotter advanced to the doubles final with a 7-6, 6-3 win over George Goldhoff and Abraham Asaba

Cancun futures
Adam Walton continues his strong summer with a 6-4,6-4 win over Tyler Zink

Zink and Walton advanced to the doubles final with a 7-5,6-4 win over the #2 seeds
they will play the top seeds tomorrow (team from Japan)
 
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