College UTR is Strange

Koby1

New User
I'm a d3 player who hadn't played a recorded utr match untill a college tournament a week or so ago. A couple of my teammates were in the same state. For some reason the utr algorithm has me at a 8.7 when my only matches in the past year and a half are a win over a 9.1 a win over a 10.45 and a bad loss against an 11.2. I know the game score matters and I won positive amount of games against the 10 and around 40% against the 9. But it still doesnt make sense to me. There's a dude on my who lost all three matches one to the 9 I played. He has a higher UTR. Another dude on my team had a closer loss to a 10 beat an 8 and lost bad to a 10 comes out with a 9.5 utr. It just feels like utr is scamming me. My junior year I beat an 11 beat all the 9s i played and had a close loss to a mid 10 my utr turns out to be at like a 9. I feel like theres been a huge utr nerf too. My first ratings were in junior years of highschool i was a mid 8. So apparently now I'm the same level as i was like 5 years ago. But like the players im beating now are from nationally ranked d3 teams whereas in highschool i was nowhere near that level. If anyone has any insight into how this could happen let me know. Just kinda confusing. College ratings overall are just really weird
 

MattHeup

Rookie
Nobody's rating is accurate after three matches. Give it a few more and it'll start to make a little more sense, if not much. I agree that the algo could use some work.
 

TennisBro

Hall of Fame
@Koby1, if you are still around, let me tell you that I have had similar feelings to yours for the last two years. Once, you're branded and stuck in one group (range of UTRs), you'll have a tough time to move up eventhough you are better. If your situation is extreme, your really are good at it and you are desperate enough, choose to play the big guns from higher UTR more often; losing 5-7 times won't hurt much but winning a couple times may give you more than those three-four wins ouf of 5 within your current group.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
@Koby1, if you are still around, let me tell you that I have had similar feelings to yours for the last two years. Once, you're branded and stuck in one group (range of UTRs), you'll have a tough time to move up eventhough you are better. If your situation is extreme, your really are good at it and you are desperate enough, choose to play the big guns from higher UTR more often; losing 5-7 times won't hurt much but winning a couple times may give you more than those three-four wins ouf of 5 within your current group.

This is a very good point I see happening with a lot of college players. If you are playing your entire season at say the 5 spot you are banded to players at that level and even with wins your UTR is going to settle in at the top end of the range for the players in that band that you played. You may be much better but if you don't play outside that band then the algorithm (or any algorithm) will have no way to know that.

Playing outside the season (i.e. ITA summer events and money UTR events) is important in order to get some play outside that band which will help you with your UTR if that is your concern or just don't worry about it and surprise better players when they face you as they come in thinking you are a pushover.

Who cares what your UTR is once you are playing college tennis?
 

LOBALOT

Legend
Yeah but to get to a good one with full scholarship you need something to show for, right?

For sure. Prior to college that is a concern. However, if you look back at my comment it was addressed to a question to college UTRs when you are already in college (say a Sophomore in college). No one cares about UTR at that point as everyone knows it is banded. At that point coaches aren't evaluating your existing scholarship based on UTR. They are basing it off of how you perform and what line in the lineup you played at.
 
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