? "Officially turned pro" is not equal to "Signed with an agent"
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If you read the regulation is it more clear than the synopsis. You can keep prize money up to 10k more than your expenses for all tournaments. Looking at the prize money list for 2014 you have to be top 300 before you make 10k more than expenses so I don't think anyone is going to be ineligible due to winning too much prize money.
I guess the possible exception would be someone who was awarded a wild card for a grand slam.
I think a common sense resolution would be to allow the players to keep whatever they earn, however, to remain eligible, just place it in a trust fund for the 4 years, or however long they wish to play college tennis.
That way, they arent forfeiting thousands of dollars, but they also arent making hasty decisions to turn pro either.
I think a common sense resolution would be to allow the players to keep whatever they earn, however, to remain eligible, just place it in a trust fund for the 4 years, or however long they wish to play college tennis.
That way, they aren't forfeiting thousands of dollars, but they also arent making hasty decisions to turn pro either.
That would essentially make them pros. Pretty sure the unintended consequence would be an even larger influx of internationals playing college tennis.
I think you're supporting my point. Lets take Noah Rubin, or the girl that won the NCAA championship this yr, Danielle Collins. They both had to forfeit the prize money in order to remain eligible to play college. They might not get that type of payday again. Ok, Im pretty sure Rubin will get a few more MD WCs to pro events, but theyre certainly not guaranteed pro success. If and when they do turn pro, that money could help them afford the coaching and travel needed to succeed, instead of being 'wasted'.These guys are playing Futures and maybe a few Challengers. The total prize money in these events is very small and few guys play more than a round or two. Maybe others know more about the money details, but I expect the prize money they are getting does not even cover expenses (air fare and hotel and food), so I doubt anyone would be building much of trust fund.
I was told at the US Open by someone who should know that roughly speaking the 163rd best tennis player in the world, who has typical worldwide travel, coaching, training, racquets, stringing, practice partners, etc. expenses loses on a net basis about $163,000 a year. The #163 best NFL player makes about $2.3 million and has virtually no expenses, because the team provides them This guy is mostly playing Futures and Challengers, but hardly any ATP events. This source told me that to break even after typical expenses you have be about #75 in the world if you are man and higher if you are a woman. Eventually, as you rise up further in the rankings you start getting more free stuff and get some sponsors.
The fact is that pro tennis lags way behind other major sports and only those at the top make any really big money, so I doubt any future college player is making enough to cover more than his expenses.
These numbers are very relevant to anyone trying to decide whether to turn pro or go to college, where almost all expenses are covered.
The fact is that pro tennis lags way behind other major sports and only those at the top make any really big money, so I doubt any future college player is making enough to cover more than his expenses.
I think you're supporting my point. Lets take Noah Rubin, or the girl that won the NCAA championship this yr, Danielle Collins. They both had to forfeit the prize money in order to remain eligible to play college. They might not get that type of payday again. Ok, Im pretty sure Rubin will get a few more MD WCs to pro events, but theyre certainly not guaranteed pro success. If and when they do turn pro, that money could help them afford the coaching and travel needed to succeed, instead of being 'wasted'.
Actually with the one exception above I doubt any (well maybe a couple over the years) college players make more than his expenses at any pro tournament, so I think this putting money away for the future is not possible.
Just read the NCAA rule. You can keep up to 10K per yr, once you reach that cap, you can only keep an amount up to your individual expenses, not your coach or parents, etc, on a per event basis.
Once you are in college, you can only get your expenses reimbursed.
I think thats hypocritical. If you allow people to accept prize money before attending college, and still consider them eligible, why not allow them to accept it while in college??
So, I guess Rubin could have kept up to 10K of his US Open prize money since it occurred before he started college??
I do not know what he did, but I do not think he enrolled at WF until the coming 2nd semester starting in January, so maybe he did keep the $10K? I think first semester classes start at WF in mid August and the US Open was later than that.
Also, did you know that the NCAA allows Olympic athletes to accept money based on performance from National Olympic Committees, in Olympic years, and still remain eligible?? Missy Franklin was able to keep 100K from the '12 Olympics and still be considered an 'amateur'. How's that different from Rubin or Collins??
http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2012/08/why-missy-franklin-retains-her-ncaa.html?m=1
Its all hypocrisy if you ask me.
Agree that we should pay these college athletes. they just spend too much time conditioning, training and practicing and playing that takes away too much time from academics. Time = Money. so we should pay them.
That might happen for D1 football and basketball athletes. Let it happen and you can say goodbye to nonrevenue sports at the d1 level.
Giving all scholarship athletes a stipend to account for the "full cost of attendance" or at least permitting them to profit off their own likeness -- whether in real time of via a trust -- would do little to endanger the Olympic sports.
Allow revenue to flow as payment to athletes and beware of the unintended consequenses.
I do not know what he did, but I do not think he enrolled at WF until the coming 2nd semester starting in January, so maybe he did keep the $10K? I think first semester classes start at WF in mid August and the US Open was later than that.
Also, did you know that the NCAA allows Olympic athletes to accept money based on performance from National Olympic Committees, in Olympic years, and still remain eligible?? Missy Franklin was able to keep 100K from the '12 Olympics and still be considered an 'amateur'. How's that different from Rubin or Collins??
http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2012/08/why-missy-franklin-retains-her-ncaa.html?m=1
Its all hypocrisy if you ask me.
Wow. The NCAA is f*cked indeed