Compensating Balance for Fairway Leather

Yoneyama

Professional
Hi guys,

First time poster here.

I've recently started playing tennis again at 24 years after having 6 years off. I'm appreciating the technicalities more rather than just hitting a ball with whatever racquet.

I bought a Yonex Vcore DuelG 310g and have been really enjoying how it plays.

I have just now added a fairway leather grip and I really like how it feels with an over grip over the top.

However the balance/ feel of the racquet is now noticably different.

I have some lead tape too - what method can I do to figure out where and how much lead to add to get the racquet feeling similar to the original grip?

I did some experimenting for an hour yesterday with lead in the 3/9 - 12 - 10/2 - 6 positions (all seperately and all one gram strips). Some combinations improved it but it still wasn't the same as with the old grip.

Should I be expected to add a fair bit of lead?

Any ideas or methods to approach would be a great help.

Cheers
 

Yoneyama

Professional
To clarify I first added lead at 3/9 (4 1 gram strips, 2 grams per side). I added some two 1 gram strips to the 12 after and it felt better.

4 grams at 12 with nothing else felt worst than no lead.

2 grams per side at 10/2 was similar to 3/9.

2 grams at 12 and 2 grams at 6 felt pretty good.

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Still none ended up being similar to how it used to be balanced.

I really wanna keep the leather and not have to take it off... Any help would be great
 

WisconsinPlayer

Professional
Nothing will get you the exact same feel as before, since the racquet itself will be heavier. I'd just play around with different weights until you find one you like
 

Yoneyama

Professional
I think the weight itself is fine as I have played with heavier racquets including the 330g version and they have felt well balanced. It's just the balance that is throwing me off.

It feels more head light now (obviously) but what that is causing is the head to wobble when I hit the ball if that makes sense?
 

WisconsinPlayer

Professional
I think the weight itself is fine as I have played with heavier racquets including the 330g version and they have felt well balanced. It's just the balance that is throwing me off.

It feels more head light now (obviously) but what that is causing is the head to wobble when I hit the ball if that makes sense?
Well if you have a balance board, you can easily find out the amount of lead tape you need in what placement to recreate the balance you had previously. If you don't own one, I think @Irvin had a simple solution to create one
 

Yoneyama

Professional
Mm I should have mentioned I have no equipment or access to it.

Interested to hear Irvin's solution or anyone elses methods!
 

esgee48

Legend
Use the edge of a table. Place the hoop of the racquet over the edge, handle on table. Move until handle just lefts off table. Mark the table where handle is with pencil. Measure the distance from the table mark to the edge of the table. This is the balance point from the butt cap. Now determine where you want the balance to be. Since it is extremely HL, you may want to make a mark on the table where you want your new balance to be. It may be 1/2" to 3/4" further from the edge. Place racquet handle on new mark. Hang strips of lead tape on the hoop until the the handle starts to lift. It may require a lot of tape. Do not put too much at 12 cuz that will increase SW a lot. Try taping the lower part of the hoop since that will not increase SW as fast.
 

floydcouncil

Professional
Hi guys,

First time poster here.

I've recently started playing tennis again at 24 years after having 6 years off. I'm appreciating the technicalities more rather than just hitting a ball with whatever racquet.

I bought a Yonex Vcore DuelG 310g and have been really enjoying how it plays.

I have just now added a fairway leather grip and I really like how it feels with an over grip over the top.

However the balance/ feel of the racquet is now noticably different.

I have some lead tape too - what method can I do to figure out where and how much lead to add to get the racquet feeling similar to the original grip?

I did some experimenting for an hour yesterday with lead in the 3/9 - 12 - 10/2 - 6 positions (all seperately and all one gram strips). Some combinations improved it but it still wasn't the same as with the old grip.

Should I be expected to add a fair bit of lead?

Any ideas or methods to approach would be a great help.

Cheers
Does all of your experimenting affect your game? Does it change your groundstrokes? Does it improve it?

What does changing the balance actually do to your volleys/serves? STOP tinkering with your specs and play tennis!!
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Mm I should have mentioned I have no equipment or access to it.

Interested to hear Irvin's solution or anyone elses methods!
I took a 1"x4" board and glued two pieces of a paint paddle across it on one end. There is a space of about 1/4" between the two paddle sections and the outside to outside distance is 8 cm. I place a dowel in the gap between the two paddles and balance a racket on it. measure the distance from the butt cap to the edge of the paddle and add 4 cm (half the distance of 8 cm.)

EDIT: Here is a picture of a balance board I made.
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I would not try to get the balance back to what you had before I would try to get the MgR/I to what I had before.
M = mass in Kg
g = gravity or 980.5
R = is the balance point in cm from the butt
I = inertia or SW at butt.

EDIT: The actual formula I use is 980.5(M)(R) / (SW+20MR-100M). I suppose you could use M in grams and omit gravity it will be real close to the same. IMO the whole concept of MgR/I is to set up a ratio of balance to inertia for any given mass. Assume you're looking for an MgR/I value of 21. When you add mass to the butt (replacing your grip with a heavier one) you mass goes up, your balance goes down, and inertia changes only slightly. So you need to figure out what happened when you changed the grip to find out what to do next.
 
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