McEnroeisanartist
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With his win in Brisbane, Federer has won at least one title in a year for a record 15 consecutive seasons. Well done.
Congrats to Federer - 16 consecutive years winning at least one title
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merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
Yep, there's a typo in the thread title--it's definitely 15, not 16. Stands alone at 15, though, with Lendl second at 14 (Open Era only, of course). I think Vive created a detailed thread about this (titles and finals) a few years ago, he will probably bump it one of these days since it already needs to be updated from last year. 
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vive le beau jeu !
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i already bumbed/updated it !Yep, there's a typo in the thread title--it's definitely 15, not 16. Stands alone at 15, though, with Lendl second at 14. I think Vive created a detailed thread about this (titles and finals) a few years ago, he will probably bump it one of these days since it already needs to be updated from last year.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=121560
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
Well done! Sorry for missing it.
newpball
Legend
heninfan99
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I stand and toast Federer for his Federliness.
pc1
G.O.A.T.
It's not really a record. My records have Laver winning at least one tournament for 21 straight years from 1956 to 1976 and Rosewall winning 21 straight from 1953 to 1973. However I think it's the Open Era record which is fantastic. Congrats to Roger.
Pancho Gonzalez is an interesting case. He won tournaments from 1948 to 1961 when he retired as World Champion. He didn't play at all in 1962 and I checked in McCauley's book (which is not fully complete) which I see him playing only one tournament in 1963 which he lost. He could have played more but I don't see it. In 1964 however he returned full time and won the first tournament he played in, defeating the very strong Gimeno in the final. The next tournament he lost the QF to Rod Laver at his peak. But the amazing one was the next tournament he played which was the US Pro Indoor Champs in White Plains. He beat Mal Anderson, a majors winner in the first round, played Laver again and defeated Laver 1-6 6-3 6-3. Played Lew Hoad and beat him 6-8 6-4 6-3. In the finals Rosewall won the first two sets against older Gonzalez 7-5 6-3 but Gonzalez rallied to win the last three set by scores of 10-8 11-9 8-6. The amount of games played is amazing in those pre-tiebreaker days with 73 games played. Gonzalez was 36 and Rosewall was 29 at that point in late May of 1964. So Gonzalez at age 36 defeated four tremendous players in a row in that tournament, three of them called GOATs by some. Two of the GOAT candidates were at their peak in Laver and Rosewall!
Gonzalez won at least one tournament every year until 1973. He won three tournaments in 1972 when he was 44. So Gonzalez played a total of 26 years and won tournaments in 23 of them if you don't count the one year he was retired in 1962. He missed in 1947 his first year, 1963 and 1973 his last year when he was 45. Perhaps if he didn't retire in 1962 he would have won every year until 1973.
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
That's nice but not as nice as 10 consecutive winning slam AND master.
pc1
G.O.A.T.
I would expect Federer to win for the next few years at least. He keeps himself in good shape and as of now I don't see him as the underdog to anyone but Djokovic. If Nadal returns to form I would put him ahead of Federer but not now. Murray, I don't know about now.
Anyway the bottom line is that he's favored almost over anyone today. I don't see anyone coming up that can beat him for now.
smoledman
G.O.A.T.
Ouch, that hurts for Fed fans!
Candide
Hall of Fame
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
2001, Milan. The title is wrong. It's 15 consecutive years.
Russeljones
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pc1
G.O.A.T.
I guess he was a touch/power player. The man had an enormous amount of power in reserve but he was primarily a touch player with a very smooth stroking style. His footwork was exemplary and comparable to anyone that has ever played. He was known for his great disguise on his strokes and some players would actually be moving in the wrong direction in anticipation of his groundstrokes! He had very possibly the greatest serve of all time with perhaps the greatest overall service game of all time.
He was a great volleyer with a tremendous overall range at the net. Ellsworth Vines believed Gonzalez had exceptionally long arms even for his size of 6 feet 3 and 1/2 inches so he had great range at the net. Gonzalez wasn't a power volleyer in the mode of an Edberg, Newcombe or Laver but was more of a touch volleyer who angled his volleys away.
Here's a link to a post I did on him a few months ago.
It's post 70.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=497232&page=4
You can check post 79 for his tour victories also.
Here's a few links on Gonzalez on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd0gJzm_EQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wo9v33t6xI
The second video has a little match play of Gonzalez against Newcombe, Rosewall and Ashe.
I guess if one word described Gonzalez's game I think it would be smoothness.
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THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Fascinating. McEnroeisanartist tried to paint yet another false absolute about Federer, and it was debunked--again.
He certainly has longevity--that is the luxury of being a strong player who has the mindset of sticking around (as opposed to being like Todd Martin, who hung in for many years, but...).
He certainly has longevity--that is the luxury of being a strong player who has the mindset of sticking around (as opposed to being like Todd Martin, who hung in for many years, but...).
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Povl Carstensen
Legend
No, both are good.
thanks The Green Mile
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
A lot of similarities with Federer then. Very interesting. I suppose this style of play made his incredible longevity possible. Thank you for the comprehensive answer!
PS: re:
What a story! You have to be touched by the tennis gods to fulfil your potential with such a background.
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Russeljones
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This is why I thought Victor Estrella Burgos was the tennis story of 2014.
pc1
G.O.A.T.
Yes he is similar to Federer in that way. Perhaps if he played today he would play like Federer. Arguably the most gifted player that ever lived.
He won about 17 Pro and Classic Majors plus 7 World Championship Tours. The World Championship Tour is more important than several majors because in theory another player can win all three regular Pro Majors but if Gonzalez won the World Pro Tour he is clearly the World Champion. In this way you could easily argue Pancho Gonzalez won the equivalent of over 30 majors!
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