Consecutive points won on 1st serve

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  1. krosero

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    You cannot be serious man. Do you know when the streak ended, presuming it ended?
     
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    Actually, it was 33, Craig O'Shannessy made mistake in ATP's Brain game. He won 19 from 19 in first set, and went all the way until first point of his 6th serve game of second set, when he made UE. For an hour and a half he won every point on first serve
     
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    Great, thanks for checking.

    BTW Djokovic made his first serve successfully on the first 19 points that he served against Dimitrov in the semis.
     
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    2014 Newport R1 : Karlovic just won 32 consecutive points on 1st serve against Ginepri, from the start of the match (24/24 in first) 'til his 4th service game in second set

    I watched the match, so it is confirmed
     
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    Brilliant, again, keep 'em coming.

    Two others I found a while back:

    20 by Lendl against McEnroe in a 1989 AO quarterfinal

    14 at least by Lendl against Agassi to close RR match at 1988 Masters (all 14 in last set)
     
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    I was counting Ivo today too- Newport vs Ginepri, he was like 33 from 33 1st serves won and than he was like 34/37 out of nowhere was facing BP hold his serve, but he lost 3 1st serves out of nowhere in 1 service game:D

    You should add Ivo to your list No.3 i think bellow Sampras and KYrgios
     
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    I'm sorry again, 36 for Kyrgios is the true number, please put him at top with Sampras :D

    23 from 23 for Kyle Edmund vs Blaz Kavcic in Astana 2 Challenger, he didn't lose point on first serve in entire match
     
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    Sampras clearly is the king. Surprised Edberg wasn't in the list though.
     
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    Zivojinovic had 18 straight to begin his Davis Cup SF vs Becker in '88

    I have at least 16 by Sampras to end his QF vs Philippoussis at '98 Wimbledon(watched what was on youtube)
     
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    2014 Washington R2 :

    19 from Querrey at the start of the match against Russell
    16 from Karlovic at the start of the match against Paire
     
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    came across this stat on Sampras-Calleri '00 USO. looks like there may have been a long streak by one or both players.

     
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    From "Pastime", January 9, 1889: "Playing in a 'mixed handicap' at Cannes last week, William Renshaw met in the final a lady to whom he gave forty in fifty. Playing with great steadiness, he won without allowing his opponent to gain a stroke. Fifty successive strokes must surely be a record 'break'."
     
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    Federer won 20 straight vs Roddick in the '09 W final.
     
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  16. krosero

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    When did that streak end (presuming it ended)?
     
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  17. Moose Malloy

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    ^it was in the 3rd set. not sure when it ended. He was 22/23 that set.
     
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    27 for Pierre-Hugues Herbert (24/24 in first two sets) against Adrien Bossel in final round of qualifying for Metz 2014, since start of the match until 4th game of third set

    Bossel saved first 14 break points!
     
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    17 for Johan Brunstrom at the start of the match against Troicki in qualies for Shenzhen 2014
     
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    19 out of 19 in entire match for Nils Langer against Mico Santiago in qualies of 2014 Sacramento Challenger
     
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    22 out of 22 in entire match for Nicolas Jarry against Toni Androic in 1st round of 2014 Cali Challenger
     
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    New record!!

    Tokyo 2014 1/4 : Milos Raonic served 38/39 in entire match against Istomin. 22/22 in first and 37 in a row since start of the match, until last game
     
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  23. krosero

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    Great work. Here's a news item:

    The way Raonic was dealing, it was unlikely he would be broken when he served for the match. Until that point, he was a perfect 34-for-34 when his first serve went in. The only real suspense centered around whether the Canadian would be able to shake hands with that perfect slate intact.

    He very nearly did. A 227 km/h ace. a 219 km/h delivery and a winning forehand. A 225 km/h ace. He was 37-for-37, and he was at match point.

    After just missing an ace to close it out Raonic had a momentary lapse of sanity and went for a 210 km/h second serve, which landed halfway up the net.

    Istomin had one more chance to break the streak. He took a 229 km/h delivery – one of Raonic's fastest of the match – got it in play, and hit a forehand winner.

    But it was only a momentary reprieve. One more big serve, and Raonic was through.​
    https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/e...makes-the-semi-finals-in-tokyo-055920467.html

    You'd have to doubt that Raonic himself knew he was surpassing Sampras, in that last game -- but nevertheless a "statistically dramatic" moment there, for us stats nerds. :)
     
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  24. Moose Malloy

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    Curren won 15 straight vs Harmon at '83 Wimbledon.
     
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    At the time only these performances, that we know of, were better:

    27 by Borg to close his 1979 Wimbledon semifinal against Connors
    21 by Tanner against Lendl at the 1983 Wimbledon
    20 by Borg against Gerulaitis at the 1981 Wimbledon
    19 by McEnroe against Lendl at the 1983 Wimbledon
    18 by Ashe against McEnroe in the 1978 Masters final
    17 by Rosewall against Smith in a 1974 Wimbledon semifinal
    17 by McEnroe against Borg at the 1980 USO
    16 by Newcombe to open the 1971 Wimbledon final against Smith

    Lot of good serving at '83 Wimb.
     
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  26. Moose Malloy

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    17 for Becker to start his match with Pernfors at '86 RG
     
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    25 straight by Federer in yesterday's Wimb semi over Murray, including 19/19 in second set
     
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    Tomic won at least 20 straight vs isner in Davis cup(won first 20 first serve points of the 4th set)
     
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    37 from 37 last night for Nikoloz Basilashvili against Ivo Karlovic in Memphis R2 :)
     
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  31. krosero

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    So then this ties the highest we've tracked (37 by Raonic), if I've got it right.

    Federer won 11/12 to open the AO final last month, including his first 11.
     
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    Yeah, Ivo was just hopeless on Nikoloz' s first serve so he joins the top
     
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    These streaks are often as much about poor returning as great serving.

    Really impressive are Borg's streaks against Connors. And Becker against Pernfors on clay.
     
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    Jerzy Janowicz didn't drop a point on his first serve in today's Bergamo Challenger final against Quentin Halys, 31 from 31!
     
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  36. Moose Malloy

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    @krosero
    I came across a rather remarkable streak: Tanner won 33 straight on 1st serve vs Vilas in the 77 AO final. He dropped his first point on first serve when he was serving for the match. He finished 36/37 for the match.
     
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    That really is astounding. Hard to compare against others from the time period because we have so little data. If I'm not mistaken the only two streaks we've listed from before Tanner/Vilas are:


    17 by Rosewall against Smith in a 1974 Wimbledon semifinal

    16 by Newcombe to open the 1971 Wimbledon final against Smith

    I didn't take my own stats for Tanner-Vilas but I noted that Tanner won his first 14 service points of the third set, ending a run of 19 straight service points overall.
     
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  38. krosero

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    Just to be clear, the Rosewall-Smith and Newk-Smith streaks are not the only 1st-serve data that we HAVE, prior to Tanner/Vilas. We have 1st-serve data for a number of matches before Tanner/Vilas, just not nearly as much as we have afterward.

    Before Tanner/Vilas, I think we've tracked first-serve success and streaks in:

    Wimb finals of 1969-72, 74-76
    USO finals of 1969-70, 73, 75-76

    Plus some other GS semis here and there.

    Moose can tell me if any of the matches he did from before Tanner/Vilas have longer streaks on 1st serve than the 17 by Rosewall and 16 by Newk, but I think those are the highest.

    So our sample before Tanner/Vilas is not huge but in what we have, Tanner's streak kills it.
     
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  39. Moose Malloy

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    Cilic won all his pts on 1st serve vs Isner today - 30/30. Queens 1st round.
     
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