Construct the ideal ATP Tour

[Mayonnaise]

For me, this would be the ideal ATP Calendar, with points for each of the main event being as such:

Slow Hardcourt Season:
January: Miami Masters - Medium-slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
February: Indian Wells Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
March: Australian Open - Slow Hardcourt - 3000 points

Claycourt Season:
April: Madrid Masters - Medium Clay - 1000 points
May: Monte Carlo Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
May: Rome Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
June: French Open - Slow Clay - 3000 points

Grasscourt Season:
June: Halle Open - Fast Grass - 500 points
July: Queen's Club Championships - Medium-fast Grass - 1000 points
July: Wimbledon - Medium-fast Grass - 3000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Canada Masters - Medium-fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
August: Cincinnati Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
September: US Open - Fast Hardcourt - 3000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
October: Basel Masters - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 1000 points
November: World Tour Finals - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 2000 points


As you can see, you can even invent new Masters tournaments, switch places, or even make Grasscourt Season start in January if you like. Heck, you could even give the French Open 5000 points and the US Open 1500 points. Basically, you can do anything. The floor is yours! Give me your ideal ATP tour! 8)

 

[irishnadalfan1983]

For me, this would be the ideal ATP Calendar, with points for each of the main event being as such:

Slow Hardcourt Season:
January: Miami Masters - Medium-slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
February: Indian Wells Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
March: Australian Open - Slow Hardcourt - 3000 points

Claycourt Season:
April: Madrid Masters - Medium Clay - 1000 points
May: Monte Carlo Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
May: Rome Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
June: French Open - Slow Clay - 3000 points

Grasscourt Season:
June: Halle Open - Fast Grass - 500 points
July: Queen's Club Championships - Medium-fast Grass - 1000 points
July: Wimbledon - Medium-fast Grass - 3000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Canada Masters - Medium-fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
August: Cincinnati Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
September: US Open - Fast Hardcourt - 3000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
October: Basel Masters - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 1000 points
November: World Tour Finals - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 2000 points


As you can see, you can even invent new Masters tournaments, switch places, or even make Grasscourt Season start in January if you like. Heck, you could even give the French Open 5000 points and the US Open 1500 points. Basically, you can do anything. The floor is yours! Give me your ideal ATP tour! 8)

This looks nice and balanced.

 

[zam88]

Well first of all you award Federer with all 4 slams before you even start... so we won't even need to play those, just take them off the table.

Then every other event is converted into 100% indoor so that there is never cancellations or effects from weather.

Third all clay is required to be blue

There will be 9 masters tournaments.. 2 on a surface exactly like the one on the big tournament played after it except just one before the WTF

2 hard court masters before the AO

2 clay masters before the FO

2 grass masters before the Wim

2 hard court masters before the USO

1 hard court master before the WTF

All 500 and 250 tournaments won't be required to be indoor and can basically do whatever they want.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Well first of all you award Federer with all 4 slams before you even start... so we won't even need to play those, just take them off the table.

Then every other event is converted into 100% indoor so that there is never cancellations or effects from weather.

Third all clay is required to be blue

There will be 9 masters tournaments.. 2 on a surface exactly like the one on the big tournament played after it except just one before the WTF

2 hard court masters before the AO

2 clay masters before the FO

2 grass masters before the Wim

2 hard court masters before the USO

1 hard court master before the WTF

All 500 and 250 tournaments won't be required to be indoor and can basically do whatever they want.

 

[LazyNinja19]

The whole opening post was great (kudos for that), until i read "Basel Masters" :lol:
Really? :lol:

 

[heftylefty]

Mayonnaise, The format is nice. But a couple of logistical glitches:
I don’t see the Australian Open moving because it’s during their national and summer holiday season. Also Indian Wells would be too cold in the evening in February. So no night play. That could cause a problem for a co-ed event.

I think they should add a Master event in either New Zealand or Australia prior to the Australian Open. When make one other Master event optional.

 

[coloskier]

Would love to see some of the clay schedule removed and add indoor carpet to replace it.

 

[Mayonnaise]

The whole opening post was great (kudos for that), until i read "Basel Masters" :lol:
Really? :lol:

Why not? It would be a fitting tribute to the greatest Tennis player ever. Rod Laver has a Slam stadium named after him, Federer will settle for a Masters stadium named after him #humble

 

[Mayonnaise]

Mayonnaise, The format is nice. But a couple of logistical glitches:
I don’t see the Australian Open moving because it’s during their national and summer holiday season. Also Indian Wells would be too cold in the evening in February. So no night play. That could cause a problem for a co-ed event.

I think they should add a Master event in either New Zealand or Australia prior to the Australian Open. When make one other Master event optional.

Ah, I didn't really think of all that. Good points. Anyway, mine looks fun, even if it's not practical

 

[OrangePower]

For me, this would be the ideal ATP Calendar, with points for each of the main event being as such:

Slow Hardcourt Season:
January: Miami Masters - Medium-slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
February: Indian Wells Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
March: Australian Open - Slow Hardcourt - 3000 points

Claycourt Season:
April: Madrid Masters - Medium Clay - 1000 points
May: Monte Carlo Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
May: Rome Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
June: French Open - Slow Clay - 3000 points

Grasscourt Season:
June: Halle Open - Fast Grass - 500 points
July: Queen's Club Championships - Medium-fast Grass - 1000 points
July: Wimbledon - Medium-fast Grass - 3000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Canada Masters - Medium-fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
August: Cincinnati Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
September: US Open - Fast Hardcourt - 3000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
October: Basel Masters - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 1000 points
November: World Tour Finals - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 2000 points


As you can see, you can even invent new Masters tournaments, switch places, or even make Grasscourt Season start in January if you like. Heck, you could even give the French Open 5000 points and the US Open 1500 points. Basically, you can do anything. The floor is yours! Give me your ideal ATP tour! 8)

I like where you're going with this. My take:

Slow Hardcourt Season:
January: Miami Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 750 points
February: Doha Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 750 points
March: Shanghai Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 750 points
March: Australian Open - Slow Hardcourt - 2000 points

Claycourt Season:
April: Monte Carlo Masters - Clay - 750 points
April: Madrid Masters - Clay - 750 points
May: Rome Masters - Clay - 750 points
May: French Open - Clay - 2000 points

Grasscourt Season:
June: Halle Masters - Grass - 750 points
June: Queen's Masters - Grass - 750 points
July: Eastbourne Masters - Grass - 750 points
July: Wimbledon - Grass - 2000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Canada Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 750 points
September: Cincinnati Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 750 points
September: Indian Wells Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 750 points
October: US Open - Fast Hardcourt - 2000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
November: Paris Masters - Indoor - 750 points
November: World Tour Finals - Indoor - 1500 points

What can I say I like the symmetry!

 

[Mayonnaise]

I like where you're going with this. My take:

Slow Hardcourt Season:
January: Miami Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 750 points
February: Doha Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 750 points
March: Shanghai Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 750 points
March: Australian Open - Slow Hardcourt - 2000 points

Claycourt Season:
April: Monte Carlo Masters - Clay - 750 points
April: Madrid Masters - Clay - 750 points
May: Rome Masters - Clay - 750 points
May: French Open - Clay - 2000 points

Grasscourt Season:
June: Halle Masters - Grass - 750 points
June: Queen's Masters - Grass - 750 points
July: Eastbourne Masters - Grass - 750 points
July: Wimbledon - Grass - 2000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Canada Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 750 points
September: Cincinnati Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 750 points
September: Indian Wells Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 750 points
October: US Open - Fast Hardcourt - 2000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
November: Paris Masters - Indoor - 750 points
November: World Tour Finals - Indoor - 1500 points

What can I say I like the symmetry!

13 Masters tournaments is overkill. You'll have dead bodies on the court by the time US Open rolls around.

 

[Cup8489]

Slow Hardcourt Season:
December: Doha Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
January: Shanghai Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
January: Australian Open - Slow Hardcourt - 2000 points

Claycourt Season:
March: Monte Carlo Masters - Clay - 1000 points
April: Madrid Masters - Clay - 1000 points
April: French Open - Clay - 2000 points

Grasscourt Season:
June: Halle Masters - Grass - 1000 points
July: Queen's Masters - Grass - 1000 points
July: Wimbledon - Grass - 2000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Canada Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
September: Cincinnati Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
September: US Open - Fast Hardcourt - 2000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
October: Paris Masters - Indoor - 1000 points
October: World Tour Finals - Indoor - 1500 points


My take on this topic ^^^

 

[eldanger25]

I have mixed feelings about a longer grass court season. On the one hand, I'd like to see a grass court Masters event or two, and more time spent on grass courts generally on the tour. On the other hand, I think the extra week b/w RG and SW19 starting next year is going to marginally devalue the Channel Slam concept, which is prestigious largely because of the sudden-ness of the switch between slow clay and fast grass majors. More distance between the two slams just harms some of the impressiveness of that Channel Slam feat.

Maybe the solution is to structure the grass court season the same way as the slow hard court season is structured - start with the major, and then comes the MS events. You could do something like:

January to March - unchanged, AO warmups to AO, tour splits up in February (I like the nod to history of the short United States and European HC/indoor season in February, as well as the Golden Swing), reconnects in the US for the IW/Miami swing.

April - early Jun - unchanged, I'm good with the current CC season setup.

June - July - SW19 warmups to Wimbledon, then Masters events on grass (maybe Newport and Halle, and let Queens be a 500 and stay as traditional SW19 warmup).

late July - early September - fast hardcourt season, keep as is

October - November - Asian swing plus indoor season - keep as is. Rotate the YEC among indoor venues around the world.

 

[HipRotation]

You're going to have to knock down a few people's houses if you want to make Queen's club a "masters" event because if you didn't know it's a tiny place in the middle of a residential area with only one real showcourt

 

[Logic]

Slow Hardcourt Season:

February: Australian Open - Medium-Slow Hardcourt - 4000 points
March: Indian Wells Masters - Medium-Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
March: Miami Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points

Claycourt Season:

April: Hamburg Masters - Medium-Slow Clay - 1000 points
April: Rome Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
May: French Open - Slow Clay - 4000 points

Grasscourt Season:

June: Queen's Masters - Medium Grass - 1000 points
June: Halle Masters - Medium-Fast Grass - 1000 points
July: Wimbledon - Medium-Fast Grass - 4000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Cincinnati Masters - Medium-Fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
August: Canada Masters - Medium Hardcourt - 1000 points
September: US Open - Medium Hardcourt - 4000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
November: Paris Masters - Fast Indoor - 1000 points
November: World Tour Finals - Fast Indoor - 2500 points

I think this is a reasonable balance of all surfaces/conditions (although "Fast" does lose out a bit).

I have weighted majors very heavily to prevent situations where the player with the most majors isn't clearly the number one (as I think he should be).

 

[MasturB]

Amazing people would get rid of Monte Carlo before Madrid.

Madrid is a useless tournament and plays not as close to the French as Monte Carlo does.

 

[Logic]

Amazing people would get rid of Monte Carlo before Madrid.

Madrid is a useless tournament and plays not as close to the French as Monte Carlo does.

Yes, but you're allowed to change surface conditions in this hypothetical.

So it would seem fair to keep a big tournament in Madrid (capital of big and historically important European nation) over Monte Carlo (a town in a small principality).

 

[MasturB]

Yes, but you're allowed to change surface conditions in this hypothetical.

So it would seem fair to keep a big tournament in Madrid (capital of big and historically important European nation) over Monte Carlo (a town in a small principality).

The event itself is almost 120 years old (Monte Carlo).

That'd be like telling the purists to get rid of Cincinnati.

Besides, Monte Carlo is a much more beautiful tournament than Madrid with much rich history.

Before Rafa, Germany had much more tennis history than Spain but lost their Master's 1000.

 

[Logic]

The event itself is almost 120 years old (Monte Carlo).

That'd be like telling the purists to get rid of Cincinnati.

Besides, Monte Carlo is a much more beautiful tournament than Madrid with much rich history.

Before Rafa, Germany had much more tennis history than Spain but lost their Master's 1000.

Fair enough, but something has to go to make room for some grass Masters - I mean, if we're going to go down the purists' line: 3/4 majors used to be played on grass.

Good point in bold - I'll change Madrid to Hamburg in my list.

 

[ibbi]

Jan
Jan
Jan - Japan Open. Indoor Slow Hardcourt. 500 points.
Jan - Shanghai Rolex Masters. Indoor Fast Hardcourt. 1000 points.
Feb
Feb - Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships. Outdoor Slow Hardcourt. 500 points
Feb - Heineken Open (Auckland). Outdoor Slow Hardcourt. 1000 points.
Feb
Mar - Australian Open
Mar - Outdoor Slow Hardcourt. 2500 points.
Mar
Mar
Apr - Mutua Madrid Open. Outdoor Medium Claycourt. 1000 points.
Apr
Apr - Monte Carlo Open. Outdoor Slow Claycourt. 500 points.
Apr - Internazionali BNL d'Italia (Rome). Slow Claycourt. 1000 points.
May
May - Roland Garros
May - Outdoor Slow Claycourt. 2500 points.
May
Jun
Jun - Topshelf Open ('s-Hertogenbosch) - Outdoor Medium Grasscourt. 500 points
Jun
Jun - Gerry Weber Open (Halle) - Outdoor Fast Grasscourt. 1000 points.
Jul
Jul - Aegon Championships (Queens) - Outdoor Fast Grasscourt. 1000 points
Jul
Jul - Wimbledon
Aug - Outdoor Fast Grasscourt - 2500 points.
Aug
Aug
Aug - BNP Paribas Open (Indian Wells). Indoor Medium Carpetcourt. 500 points.
Sep - Rogers Cup (PICK ONE CITY!). Indoor Fast Carpetcourt. 1000 points.
Sep
Sep - Western & Southern Open (Cincinnati). Indoor Fast Carpetcourt. 1000 points.
Sep
Oct - US Open
Oct - Indoor Fast Carpetcourt. 2500 points.
Oct
Oct - SA Tennis Open (Johannesburg) - Outdoor Fast Hardcourt. 500 points.
Nov - Copa Claro (Buenos Aires) - Outdoor Fast Hardcourt. 1000 points.
Nov
Nov
Nov - World Tour Finals (Miami). Rotate surface every year. 2000 points.
Dec
Dec
Dec
Dec

 

[Chico]

For me, this would be the ideal ATP Calendar, with points for each of the main event being as such:

Slow Hardcourt Season:
January: Miami Masters - Medium-slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
February: Indian Wells Masters - Slow Hardcourt - 1000 points
March: Australian Open - Slow Hardcourt - 3000 points

Claycourt Season:
April: Madrid Masters - Medium Clay - 1000 points
May: Monte Carlo Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
May: Rome Masters - Slow Clay - 1000 points
June: French Open - Slow Clay - 3000 points

Grasscourt Season:
June: Halle Open - Fast Grass - 500 points
July: Queen's Club Championships - Medium-fast Grass - 1000 points
July: Wimbledon - Medium-fast Grass - 3000 points

Fast Hardcourt Season:
August: Canada Masters - Medium-fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
August: Cincinnati Masters - Fast Hardcourt - 1000 points
September: US Open - Fast Hardcourt - 3000 points

Indoor Hardcourt Season:
October: Basel Masters - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 1000 points
November: World Tour Finals - Very Fast Indoor Hardcourt - 2000 points


As you can see, you can even invent new Masters tournaments, switch places, or even make Grasscourt Season start in January if you like. Heck, you could even give the French Open 5000 points and the US Open 1500 points. Basically, you can do anything. The floor is yours! Give me your ideal ATP tour! 8)

Terrible.
1 Why are slams 3000?
2. Why is there "Basel Masters"?
3. Miami in January? IW in February - does not work.

The ideal ATP tour:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tournaments/Event-Calendar.aspx

 

[Chico]

Jan
Jan
Jan - Japan Open. Indoor Slow Hardcourt. 500 points.
Jan - Shanghai Rolex Masters. Indoor Fast Hardcourt. 1000 points.
Feb
Feb - Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships. Outdoor Slow Hardcourt. 500 points
Feb - Heineken Open (Auckland). Outdoor Slow Hardcourt. 1000 points.
Feb
Mar - Australian Open
Mar - Outdoor Slow Hardcourt. 2500 points.
Mar
Mar
Apr - Mutua Madrid Open. Outdoor Medium Claycourt. 1000 points.
Apr
Apr - Monte Carlo Open. Outdoor Slow Claycourt. 500 points.
Apr - Internazionali BNL d'Italia (Rome). Slow Claycourt. 1000 points.
May
May - Roland Garros
May - Outdoor Slow Claycourt. 2500 points.
May
Jun
Jun - Topshelf Open ('s-Hertogenbosch) - Outdoor Medium Grasscourt. 500 points
Jun
Jun - Gerry Weber Open (Halle) - Outdoor Fast Grasscourt. 1000 points.
Jul
Jul - Aegon Championships (Queens) - Outdoor Fast Grasscourt. 1000 points
Jul
Jul - Wimbledon
Aug - Outdoor Fast Grasscourt - 2500 points.
Aug
Aug
Aug - BNP Paribas Open (Indian Wells). Indoor Medium Carpetcourt. 500 points.
Sep - Rogers Cup (PICK ONE CITY!). Indoor Fast Carpetcourt. 1000 points.
Sep
Sep - Western & Southern Open (Cincinnati). Indoor Fast Carpetcourt. 1000 points.
Sep
Oct - US Open
Oct - Indoor Fast Carpetcourt. 2500 points.
Oct
Oct - SA Tennis Open (Johannesburg) - Outdoor Fast Hardcourt. 500 points.
Nov - Copa Claro (Buenos Aires) - Outdoor Fast Hardcourt. 1000 points.
Nov
Nov
Nov - World Tour Finals (Miami). Rotate surface every year. 2000 points.
Dec
Dec
Dec
Dec

Indian Wells in August? Do you want to kill some of the players? Do you guys have any clue about the climate or you are just pulling stuff out?

 

[Mayonnaise]

Terrible.

That's a complete falsehood.

1 Why are slams 3000?

Because I want them to be.

2. Why is there "Basel Masters"?

Because I want there to be.

3. Miami in January? IW in February - does not work.

Yes, it will.

The ideal ATP tour:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tournaments/Event-Calendar.aspx

Thanks for your valuable contribution

 

[OrangePower]

13 Masters tournaments is overkill. You'll have dead bodies on the court by the time US Open rolls around.

Not really; the 13 masters I have are mostly tournaments that all the top players already play anyway, so it would not be adding much to their schedule.

In addition to the existing 9 masters, I 'promoted' Doha (already popular amongst the top players), Queens (popular for some, except for those that instead play at...), Halle (... already played by those not at Queens), and Eastbourne.

So in reality only 2 more than already being played. And those 2 being grass tournaments, which are less grueling.

Also, one of the grass tournaments (most logically Eastbourne) can be made optional like Monte Carlo.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Not really; the 13 masters I have are mostly tournaments that all the top players already play anyway, so it would not be adding much to their schedule.

In addition to the existing 9 masters, I 'promoted' Doha (already popular amongst the top players), Queens (popular for some, except for those that instead play at...), Halle (... already played by those not at Queens), and Eastbourne.

So in reality only 2 more than already being played. And those 2 being grass tournaments, which are less grueling.

Also, one of the grass tournaments (most logically Eastbourne) can be made optional like Monte Carlo.

Fair enough.

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

LOL at Basel = 1000 points and Bercy no more here

 

[Mayonnaise]

LOL at Basel = 1000 points and Bercy no more here

It's my tour. If you don't like it, post yours. Some of you don't seem to understand the thread.

 

[HipRotation]

LOL at Basel = 1000 points and Bercy no more here

I can imagine people would like Basel and Halle to be 1000 to help boost Federer's ranking, but it would probably mean he wouldn't win them any more

LOL indeed

 

[Mayonnaise]

I can imagine people would like Basel and Halle to be 1000 to help boost Federer's ranking, but it would probably mean he wouldn't win them any more

LOL indeed

If you've actually read my OP, you'll see I have Halle as a 500 and Queen's as a 1000. And even if Basel became a 1000, Federer's Basel titles would remain 500 wins. So it won't benefit Federer in any way.

Now, will you stop trolling and contribute?

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

It's my tour. If you don't like it, post yours. Some of you don't seem to understand the thread.

What's the point of everyone posting his tour and no one commenting ?

My tour is the actual one, except replace grass by fast indoor hard court.

 

[Mayonnaise]

What's the point of everyone posting his tour and no one commenting ?

My tour is the actual one, except replace grass by fast indoor hard court.

I've already given my reason for Basel being elevated to 1000. It's a tribute to Federer and Wawrinka who hold 18 Slams between them. Switzerland deserves a Masters 1000.

 

[Chico]

I've already given my reason for Basel being elevated to 1000. It's a tribute to Federer and Wawrinka who hold 18 Slams between them. Switzerland deserves a Masters 1000.

Djokovic and Seles hold 16 slams between them plus Ivanovic 1 that is 17. Belgrade also deserves a Masters 1000. Please change your tour accordingly.

 

[Chico]

What's the point of everyone posting his tour and no one commenting ?

My tour is the actual one, except replace grass by fast indoor hard court.

There is no point, he is just trolling.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Djokovic and Seles hold 16 slams between them plus Ivanovic 1 that is 17. Belgrade also deserves a Masters 1000. Please change your tour accordingly.

Federer + Wawrinka + Hingis > Djokovic + Seles + Ivanovic

 

[Mayonnaise]

There is no point, he is just trolling.

I'm trolling? I made a thread that a lot of people are posting in, and the Joke-brigade is here trying desperately to derail it :lol: You are trolling.

 

[NaBUru38]

My proposal is:

o- There should be a Masters in Germany, and a grass Masters. So Halle is added right after Roland Garros, while ATP 250 Queen's is held right before Wimbledon.
o- Japan should have a Masters instead of Shanghai.
o- Chile and Argentina should have ATP 250 tournaments right before the ATP 500 Rio de Janeiro
o- Marseille should be held in September, to avoid the clash with Rio de Janeiro
o- The Finals should rotate between United States, Mexico, Brazil, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy and Spain. And it should alternate between carpet and clay.

- o -

Full calendar:

Jan1: Perth / Brisbane (250 hard)
Jan2: Sydney / Auckland (250 hard)
Jan3-4: Australian (GS hard)

(Feb1: Davis Cup R1)
Feb2: Rotterdam (500 clay)
Feb3: Chile / Argentina (250 clay)
Feb4: Rio de Janeiro (500 clay)

Mar1: Mexico / Dubai (500 hard)
Mar2: Indian Wells (Masters hard)
Mar3: Miami (Masters hard)
(Mar4: Davis Cup QF)

Apr1: Houston (250 clay)
Apr2: Monte Carlo (Masters clay)
Apr3: Munich / Portugal (250 clay)
Apr4: Barcelona (500 clay)

May1: Madrid (Masters clay)
May2: Roma (Masters clay)
May3: Düsseldorf / Nice (250 clay)
May4-5: Roland Garros (GS clay)

Jun1: Halle (Masters grass)
JUn2: Queen's (500 grass)
Jun3-4: Wimbledon (GS grass)
Jul1: Stuttgart / Bastad (250 clay)
Jul2: Hamburg (500 clay)

Jul3: Atlanta (250 hard)
JUl4: Washington (500 hard)
Aug1: Canada (Masters hard)
Aug2: Cincinnati (Masters hard)

Aug3: North Carolina (250 hard)
Aug4 - Sep1: US Open (GS hard)
(Sep2: Davis Cup SF)

Sep3: Marseille (250 hard)
Sep4: Malaysia (250 hard)
Sep5: Beijing / Shanghai (500 hard)
Oct1: Tokyo (Masters hard)

Oct2: Stockholm / Vienna (250 hard)
Oct3: Valencia / Basel (500 hard)
Oct4: Paris (Masters hard)

Nov2: Finals
(Nov3: Davis Cup final)

 

[NaBUru38]

I meant ATP 500 Queen's.

 

[coolboarder]

I posted this calendar in other thread so this is my ideal calendar with more grass court tournaments throughout the year. It's not possible to change the Slams calendar as it is but ATP could always add and subtract events. They could always change the calendar with one twist in my ideal calendar, three Masters events in March/April with three events in a row with three different surfaces.

Week---Location/Tournament name---------Surface
Early Hard Court Season
1--------Brisbane, Doha ---------------------Hard, Hard
2--------Auckland, Sydney ------------------Hard
3--------Australian Open --------------------Hard
4--------Australian Open --------------------Hard
Surface Choice Season
5--------Montpelier, Van del Mar, *Perth --Hard, Clay, Hard, *Grass (Zagreb is scrapped)
6--------Rotterdam (500), Memphis, Sao Paulo, *Chennai- Indoor Hard (500), Hard, Clay, *Grass (move Chennai from week 1 to this week for a grass?) No need to scrap any event, this is good. If I had to scrap one, it would be Memphis.
7--------Rio (500), Delray Beach, *Dubai-- Clay (500), Hard, *Grass (500) Might be not a good location, Mexico grass 500 perhaps? (Move Dubai from week 8) (Marsellie is scrapped)
8-------- Acapulco, Buernos Aires------------Hard, Clay (No grass held this week) (If Dubai is unfit to hold a grass, hold a 500 there this week)
End of Surface Choice Season
9 ------- Week off (Davis Cup)
Start of Specialized Surface Masters Season
10-11 -- Masters Indian Wells (96 draw)-----Hard masters
12-13--- Masters Miami (96 draw) -----------*Grass masters (If Miami is interested)
14-15 -- *Masters Monte Carlo *(96 draw)---Clay masters (Houston is moved to week 31) (Casablanca is scrapped due to the weakest 250 field in the year)
End of Specialized Surface Masters Season
Start of Clay Court Season
16------ Barcelona (500), Bucharest ---------Clay (500), Clay
17------ Munich, Oeiras, *Casablanca---------Clay, Clay, Clay
18------ Masters, Madrid-----------------------Clay
19------ Masters, Rome -----------------------Clay
20------ Dusseldorf, Nice ----------------------Clay
21------ Roland Garros ------------------------Clay
22------ Roland Garros ------------------------Clay
End of Clay Court Season
Start of Grass Court season
23------ ’s-Hertogenbosch, Stuttgart----------Grass, Grass
24------ *Masters Queen's --------------------Grass masters
25------ Nottingham ---------------------------Grass
26------ Wimbledon ----------------------------Grass
27------ Wimbledon ----------------------------Grass
28------ Newport, *Kitzbuhel-------------------Grass, *Clay (Newport would not change their post-Wimbledon plans) (Move Kitzbuhel from week 31)
End of Grass Court Season
Start of Surface Choice Season
29------ *Halle (500), Bogota, Umag----------*Grass (500), Hard, Clay (Move Halle from week 24 unless Halle wanted a Masters then put Queen's here)
30------ Hamburg (500), Atlanta, Gstaad -----Clay (500), Hard, Clay or Grass (if Gstaad wants to host a grass 250 rather than a clay)
31------ Washington DC (500), *Houston -----Hard (500), Clay (make up from April schedule held in week 14, and might be too hot for this week)
End of Surface Choice Season
Start of Hard Court Season
32------ Masters, Canada -----------------------Hard masters
33------ Masters, Cincinnati --------------------Hard masters
34------ Winston Salmen -----------------------Hard
35------ US Open -------------------------------Hard
36------ US Open -------------------------------Hard
37------ week off (Davis Cup play)
38------ Metz, Tel Avia -------------------------Hard, Hard
39------ Kuala Kumpur, Shenzhen ------------Hard, Hard
40------ Beijing (500), Tokyo (500) -----------Hard (500), Hard (500)
41------ Masters Shanghai----------------------Hard masters
42------ Moscow, Stockholm, Vienna --------- All indoor Hard, Hard, Hard
43------ Bassel (500), Valencia (500) -------- Indoor Hard (500), Hard (500)
End of Hard Court Season
End of Regular Tennis Calendar
44------ Scrap Masters Paris Week off instead (Davis Cup semifinals?)
45------ World Tours Final --------------------- Surface choice
46------ Davis Cup finals?

 

[MasturB]

I see absolutely no reason in having any clay tournaments following Wimbledon. Newport is only there after Wimby because of the HoF.

After grass it should switch to summer HC.

 

[coolboarder]

I see absolutely no reason in having any clay tournaments following Wimbledon. Newport is only there after Wimby because of the HoF.

After grass it should switch to summer HC.

I agree with you, unfortunately, the ATP does not care, all they see is $$$. To convince them, make them European Hard Court events rather than the clay. The clay courter will mourn to this day with the lost ranking points opportunity with no clay events in July. They might protest any changes.

 

[ibbi]

Indian Wells in August? Do you want to kill some of the players? Do you guys have any clue about the climate or you are just pulling stuff out?

It's indoors, so no, nobody would die...

I did think of the climates, yes. Madrid, Monte Carlo and Rome would be a little on the cool side, but whatever... They can go back to playing in trousers for that period if it's too cold for them As for the rest... No problems.