Contest? Guessing the SW of the new K Pro staff.

[mtommer]

Anybody want to have a contest to guess the swingweight of the new K Pro Staff? We'll use whatever figure is posted by TW in their specs section, regardless of what others measure from actual frames they may have in hand, OR, if it comes out first in print OFFICALLY (I'm thinking along the lines of the catalogue) by Wilson before TW gets these racquets/specs up.

Here's the silly fun prize: For all who participate, you owe the winner, ooooh, what....say....at least three sentences of flowery grandiose complements about how they are king of the court and you are not worthy of being in their presence - no matter who they are!!!

Now,
1. Numbers are first come, first serve. Obviously, there can't be that many "good" numbers to pick so that will limit the number of people. This sucks, especially for late comers but at least you can still spectate and reading the declarations of the losers could be interesting.

2. This is meant to be fun - a change of pace around here if you will. If you post a guess and lose, please post your declaration and do so in a fun creative way (and no subtle insults), even if the guy winning insulted you on a thread a day ago or you think they're an impertinent troll. Suck up the ego.

Since I'm the OP, I get to go first (hey, I did start it )
My guess: 343

*and if you think this is stupid, fine, here's a simple solution - don't post. No takers? Won't bug me in the least and the thread will die away.

 

[lilxjohnyy]

352 is mine

 

[strahan918]

The swingweight of the mighty club will be 339

 

[nCode747]

345 .

 

[pudelko]

349.5766576908978564563

 

[drakulie]

359 will be my guess

 

[dhustla15]

I'd say 354

 

[Nanshiki]

OVER NINE THOUSAND!


....eh

 

[strahan918]

OVER NINE THOUSAND!


....eh

LOL. 10char

 

[Blank]

my guess is 340

 

[counter_puncher]

341 (10 char).
btw, you have to make sure there is no editing...

 

[NLBwell]

333 for my guess.

 

[counter_puncher]

^^damn i need to edit to remove the 10 char part but oh well...

 

[StealthGnome]

347 .

 

[jetlee2k]

359 will be my guess

woooww.. here we have a winner.. What a great guess.. right on the money.. 359..

I used tennis warehouse Swing weight calculator.. I did it 3 times .. so here is the number..

Weight: 378g
Balance Point: 32.8cm
Distance from handle to end hang string: 64.5cm
Time for 10 swings: 13.5second

Swing weight 359g

RIGHT ON..

You are a TRUE MASTER DRAKULIE

 

[Blank]

woooww.. here we have a winner.. What a great guess.. right on the money.. 359..

I used tennis warehouse Swing weight calculator.. I did it 3 times .. so here is the number..

Weight: 378g
Balance Point: 32.8cm
Distance from handle to end hang string: 64.5cm
Time for 10 swings: 13.5second

Swing weight 359g

RIGHT ON..

You are a TRUE MASTER DRAKULIE

according to the OP, this is not official :lol:

 

[BreakPoint]

woooww.. here we have a winner.. What a great guess.. right on the money.. 359..

I used tennis warehouse Swing weight calculator.. I did it 3 times .. so here is the number..

Weight: 378g
Balance Point: 32.8cm
Distance from handle to end hang string: 64.5cm
Time for 10 swings: 13.5second

Swing weight 359g

RIGHT ON..

You are a TRUE MASTER DRAKULIE

But I thought the stock strung weight was about 366g (12.9 oz.)?

Did you add an overgrip and a dampener before weighing it?

 

[BreakPoint]

Anyway, my swingweight guess for a stock frame is 355.

 

[jetlee2k]

But I thought the stock strung weight was about 366g (12.9 oz.)?

Did you add an overgrip and a dampener before weighing it?

You are correct.. 378g is total weight.. kps88, string, overgrip and dampener.. The 359g swing weight is based on my actual racquet not from the frame itself.

 

[Bud]

My Guess

Swingweight = 346

 

[sixone90]

I'm guessing the SW would be 360

 

[gerli]

I think SW = 362

 

[drakulie]

woooww.. here we have a winner.. What a great guess.. right on the money.. 359..

I used tennis warehouse Swing weight calculator.. I did it 3 times .. so here is the number..

Weight: 378g
Balance Point: 32.8cm
Distance from handle to end hang string: 64.5cm
Time for 10 swings: 13.5second

Swing weight 359g

RIGHT ON..

You are a TRUE MASTER DRAKULIE

Thank you, Thank you! I always knew I had it in me.

Anyway, thanks so much for taking the time to post everything you have (photos, reviews, specs, etc). really appreciate your efforts.

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

well I was the first on the boards to make an educated guess on 11-7-2008 7:05pm

anyone ?
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=2847012&postcount=523

my guess might break 360, I would like it to be 355

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

Thank you, Thank you! I always knew I had it in me.

Anyway, thanks so much for taking the time to post everything you have (photos, reviews, specs, etc). really appreciate your efforts.

drakulie with all due respect that is not stock it could range with overgrip or not, difference in type of string and gauge, dampener etc......

Heck I could make this KPS88 SW under 330 in that case,


though jetlees experiment is nice it can be off very easily

most accurate way to find out is to take three random stock unstrung KPS88 and put them on a babolat RDC machine,

 

[drakulie]

^^ I agree. However (and please don't take this the wrong way), I could care less what the SW of a frame is without the strings.

Anyway, as it is>>> I'll definitely hit with this frame, but don't think I'll be using one. if you recall, my only drawback of the PT630 was the "head heavy" issue. I like frames that are much more head light. BTW, was hitting with it last night (PT630). Such a sweet frame!! Probably hit the hardest FH I have ever hit. It even sounded different. YIKES!

We'll see.

 

[Pushmaster]

I'm guessing the SW would be 360

That would be my guess too. Not a problem though because I've been training with an old Head XRC which has a swingweight of 390, so the KPS 88 should feel like an oversize granny stick in comparison.

 

[Pushmaster]

333 for my guess.

There's no way it could be that low, that's even lower than the K90 which is 12 points HL unstrung (supposedly anyway). The KPS is only 9 points HL unstrung and is heavier. It would have to be at least 350 according to my estimation.

 

[Pushmaster]

^^ I agree. However (and please don't take this the wrong way), I could care less what the SW of a frame is without the strings.

Anyway, as it is>>> I'll definitely hit with this frame, but don't think I'll be using one. if you recall, my only drawback of the PT630 was the "head heavy" issue. I like frames that are much more head light. BTW, was hitting with it last night (PT630). Such a sweet frame!! Probably hit the hardest FH I have ever hit. It even sounded different. YIKES!

We'll see.

I never liked the the PT630, it felt sluggish and just plain awkward to swing. I didn't care for the muted feel either, got rid of it in a hurry.

 

[sureshs]

woooww.. here we have a winner.. What a great guess.. right on the money.. 359..

I used tennis warehouse Swing weight calculator.. I did it 3 times .. so here is the number..

Weight: 378g
Balance Point: 32.8cm
Distance from handle to end hang string: 64.5cm
Time for 10 swings: 13.5second

Swing weight 359g

RIGHT ON..

You are a TRUE MASTER DRAKULIE

Just a note: Unit of SW is not g.

Anyways, was this strung or unstrung.

 

[pham4313]

swingweight range 338-345 i wish

 

[sureshs]

Sounds like unstrung. Add 10 - 20 points at least and you might be looking at a strung SW of 380!!! travelerajm's life's goal has been achieved!

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

^^ I agree. However (and please don't take this the wrong way), I could care less what the SW of a frame is without the strings.

Anyway, as it is>>> I'll definitely hit with this frame, but don't think I'll be using one. if you recall, my only drawback of the PT630 was the "head heavy" issue. I like frames that are much more head light. BTW, was hitting with it last night (PT630). Such a sweet frame!! Probably hit the hardest FH I have ever hit. It even sounded different. YIKES!

We'll see.

the sound is a THUMP, similar to PC600

anyway, as for unstrung SW, you should care because it will give you an idea of your base frame. I too like very HL frames with low SW so before I buy a few I put up a dozen or so on our local RDC mahine and pick/match the lowest ones of the bunch. Believe me there is a difference. TW has this service for a fee and it is worth every penny. Not sure how much variance in tolerance there is going to be with this KPS88 but with other frames the difference in tolerance is very noticble even without an RDC machine.

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

Sounds like unstrung. Add 10 - 20 points at least and you might be looking at a strung SW of 380!!! travelerajm's life's goal has been achieved!

it is strung Jetlee would not have been able to do his experiment unstrung ( it will not hang)

Weight: 378g
Balance Point: 32.8cm
Distance from handle to end hang string: 64.5cm
Time for 10 swings: 13.5second

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

You are correct.. 378g is total weight.. kps88, string, overgrip and dampener.. The 359g swing weight is based on my actual racquet not from the frame itself.

care to tell us string type gauge tension which machine all these will affect SW:shock:

update: never mind I jsut saw your review

 

[Pushmaster]

Jet measured it at 359 in his review thread, I was only off by 1 (360).

 

[sureshs]

OK based on Jetlee summary and review:

weight = 13.3 oz strung
SW = 359 strung
balance = estimated 6 pts HL strung based on feel

Actually, SW is not too bad considering the weight and balance.

jetlee, balance is the easiest thing to find out. Please do it. Hold the stick on the forefingers of both hands on either side of the center and slide them till they meet. That point is the balance. Measure distance from the butt. Or just place it on the side of a table till it tilts.

 

[mtommer]

List so far...¹

Nanshiki = over NINE THOUSAND....eh?²
gerli = 362
SixOne90 = 360
drakulie = 359
Breakpoint = 355
dhustla15 = 354
lilxjohnyy = 352
Pudelko = 349.57
Stealth Gnome = 347
Bud = 346
nCode 747 = 345
mtommer = 343
Counter Puncher = 341
Blank = 340
strahan918 = 339
NLBwell = 333


¹ when numbers appear on this list they are considered locked in.
² smiley indicates number may be changed but only to one not yet picked.

 

[mtommer]

Nanshiki and Pudelko, if you do want to actually post a number state and I'll change it.

 

[pudelko]

My number is the one I want. I just put that many decimal points because of the 10 character requirement If you want you can shorten it to 1 or 2 decimal points

 

[mtommer]

So, from the TW video, can we all agree that 346 is the number that should be used?

 

[kobe3pointer]

Swingweight = 346

Nice guess... :/

 

[ronalditop]

Sw = 346 .

 

[psp2]

KPS88

>4 3/8 grip
>strung with NXT16 @ 55# on a Babolat Star 5.
>no overgrip, no dampener.

SW: 336 (recently calibrated Babolat RDC)

 

[Fedace]

If they make more userfriendly 12 Oz model of this frame, the swingweight should be around 328 or so. Which is perfect, pretty much. still leaves room for customization for those that wants higher SW.
As it is right now, only the ATP tour level guys can use it. that is a HUGE market, i guess.... What a waste..

 

[aimr75]

headquarters at Wilson QC emailed me, its all of the above
________
MONTANA MEDICAL MARIJUANA

 

[AlpineCadet]

headquarters at Wilson QC emailed me, its all of the above

Congratulations, I think you've just won the contest! :shock:

 

[Bud]

Bingo!

Swingweight = 346

Schwing!

Nailed it!

:lol: