Convince me on buying a new paddle.

[optic yellow]

Everyone in my PB group is now playing with Joola Perseus Gen 3

When I read reviews of this paddle it sounds like Babolat Pure Drive of pickleball. Lots of power and spin, not so good control. I would equate it also to the hollow body spring face game improvement irons that have proliferated throughout golf.

 

[ByeByePoly]

Everyone in my PB group is now playing with Joola Perseus Gen 3

says more about your group than the paddle … jk …

The gen 3 core crush faster because of the plastic core diving board movement inside. Hopefully none in your group hit the ball hard. Chris Olson (Pickleball Studio) just talked to JOOLA about what the difference is between Gen 3 and the S new releases. The cores were thick enough in the Gen 3 that they were produced with some core crushing/corruption right out of the box because of the heat involved in production. Variations in how much, and variations in players on how fast the paddle failing level of core failure will show up.

Just hit soft serves and returns and dink a lot … you should be fine.

 

[lucky44]

Where can you buy Joola Gen3 not approved ones?

 

[bobleenov1963]

Where can you buy Joola Gen3 not approved ones?

Plenty of them on E-b-a-y

 

[ByeByePoly]

Everyone in my PB group is now playing with Joola Perseus Gen 3

Played against a guy today using the Mod 15. He already had a scary overhead, but Mod 15 was beyond any chance of reaction time even if at the baseline. He also has a big forehand drive, but that was playable. We won both games, both very close … I was using my $90 Vatic Prism Flash. Three $250+ paddles and my $90 paddle. Wiffle doubles is a strange little game … 5 mph drop can matter just as much as 60 mph overhead.

 

[bobleenov1963]

Played against a guy today using the Mod 15. He already had a scary overhead, but Mod 15 was beyond any chance of reaction time even if at the baseline. He also has a big forehand drive, but that was playable. We won both games, both very close … I was using my $90 Vatic Prism Flash. Three $250+ paddles and my $90 paddle. Wiffle doubles is a strange little game … 5 mph drop can matter just as much as 60 mph overhead.

Put the Perseus3 into the hand of a 5.0 player, and his DUPR will increase by 0.5. Perseus3 is perfectly suited for young tennis players transition over to PB. In other words, it becomes a weapon.

 

[ByeByePoly]

Put the Perseus3 into the hand of a 5.0 player, and his DUPR will increase by 0.5. Perseus3 is perfectly suited for young tennis players transition over to PB. In other words, it becomes a weapon.

Blanket statement much?

5.0 doubles players (and pros) come in many flavors … some hit primarily 3rd shot drops and very few drives. Some are right side specialist. Power paddles don’t help with drops. A power paddle doesn’t help anyone dink better.

****io is moving fast to the top of pro PPA doubles … doesn’t play with JOOLA … plays against them.

Chill the shill

 

[vex]

Where can you buy Joola Gen3 not approved ones?

The Bay of E is the only place you’ll find them because they were recalled and refunded. But no clue why you would do this. Any decent players are going to rip you relentlessly and eventually kick you out if you show up with that paddle. I suppose you could use it to nuke balls at Grandma and Grandpa who don’t know any better.

 

[vex]

Put the Perseus3 into the hand of a 5.0 player, and his DUPR will increase by 0.5.

this is hilariously wrong. It helps 3 shots: overheads, off balance drives and BH counterpunches. Really only the last one gives a 5.0 much of a significant advantage.

The idea that it changes people’s drive is just objectively wrong. Almost all 5.0s are strong enough to nuke a drive with TS that would hit the baseline. Mathematically that’s as hard as you can hit the ball and keep it in. So they already are able to nuke it just fine. Where it helps slightly is on drives is when you are off platform and trying to still hit hard without ur ideal footwork. It helps provide some power there. You can argue, “well I’ll hit it so hard that I’ll bodybag people before they can evade my shot going wildly long”… that might work briefly but people will quickly adjust and matrix out of your drives more often. That strategy ain’t getting you from 5.0->5.5.

It doesn’t help you at all on serves, drops, dinks, lobs, blocks or resets. In fact it might hurt you a bit on reset consistency.

 

[bobleenov1963]

this is hilariously wrong. It helps 3 shots: overheads, off balance drives and BH counterpunches. Really only the last one gives a 5.0 much of a significant advantage.

The idea that it changes people’s drive is just objectively wrong. Almost all 5.0s are strong enough to nuke a drive with TS that would hit the baseline. Mathematically that’s as hard as you can hit the ball and keep it in. So they already are able to nuke it just fine. Where it helps slightly is on drives is when you are off platform and trying to still hit hard without ur ideal footwork. It helps provide some power there. You can argue, “well I’ll hit it so hard that I’ll bodybag people before they can evade my shot going wildly long”… that might work briefly but people will quickly adjust and matrix out of your drives more often. That strategy ain’t getting you from 5.0->5.5.

It doesn’t help you at all on serves, drops, dinks, lobs, blocks or resets. In fact it might hurt you a bit on reset consistency.

I play with someone who is a 5.0, and he regularly loses 11-1 to another 5.5 player. He borrows my Perseus 3 paddle and the last ten matches he played against the same 5.5 player, the scores are 11-13, 10-12, 12-10, 13-15, 12-14., and so on. The 5.0 player was 3-10 in those ten very close matches. Prior to that, he was 0-15 against the 5.5 player.

If the paddle isn't that good, why does it get banned?

 

[vex]

I play with someone who is a 5.0, and he regularly loses 11-1 to another 5.5 player. He borrows my Perseus 3 paddle and the last ten matches he played against the same 5.5 player, the scores are 11-13, 10-12, 12-10, 13-15, 12-14., and so on. The 5.0 player was 3-10 in those ten very close matches. Prior to that, he was 0-15 against the 5.5 player.

If the paddle isn't that good, why does it get banned?

So these were singles matches?

 

[bobleenov1963]

So these were singles matches?

Yes, single matches.

 

[vex]

Yes, single matches.

We’re talking about different things then. In singles it will have more of an effect bc off balance drives are a huge part of singles and it helps that shot in particular

 

[bobleenov1963]

We’re talking about different things then. In singles it will have more of an effect bc off balance drives are a huge part of singles and it helps that shot in particular

Perseus 3 has massive advantages in singles because of open-stance and off balance drives when the opponent is in the transition zone before the kitchen. It also increases the serve by about 4 to 5 miles. That also makes a big difference in PB singles. It definitely increases your level by .5, or maybe higher.

Not so much in PB doubles.

 

[MasturB]

You guys are gonna hate me, but I ordered two Babolat paddles.

The STRKR and the MNSTR (so weird their marketing for pickleball is to remove vowels out of the names).

I just ordered two of them since they're both aesthetically close to my Sith themed Pure Strike VS racquet. I only play casually, so I thought i'd order both and test them out and send back the one I don't like. I know Babs isn't that popular of a brand in Pickleball. But Brand loyalty FTW. lol

I convinced a few of my regular tennis hitting partners to do a weekly Saturday or every other Saturday beer and pickleball session. We did it once before Hurricane Helene and we had a blast. My new paddles won't get here until Monday, so I'm excited to try them out next week.

 

[vex]

You guys are gonna hate me, but I ordered two Babolat paddles.

The STRKR and the MNSTR (so weird their marketing for pickleball is to remove vowels out of the names).

I just ordered two of them since they're both aesthetically close to my Sith themed Pure Strike VS racquet. I only play casually, so I thought i'd order both and test them out and send back the one I don't like. I know Babs isn't that popular of a brand in Pickleball. But Brand loyalty FTW. lol

I convinced a few of my regular tennis hitting partners to do a weekly Saturday or every other Saturday beer and pickleball session. We did it once before Hurricane Helene and we had a blast. My new paddles won't get here until Monday, so I'm excited to try them out next week.

You’re gonna have so much fun

 

[MasturB]

You’re gonna have so much fun

I've been using this Wilson Pro that I bought in like 2019. Granted I only play once or twice a month when I can't find tennis hits. But long overdue. Plus it's nice to have an extra paddle in the car incase any of my tennis friends want to give it a try.

 

[bobleenov1963]

I did a blasphemous thing this past Thursday and Friday.

I took my Uniqlo hat that was personally signed by Djokovic when I was at the US Open in 2015, and brought it to the PPA tour. That same hat was signed by Federico Staksrud, Ben Johns, Christian Alshon, Connor Garnett, Quang Duong, Anna Leigh Waters, Catherine Parenteau, Chao Yi Wang, Brooke Buckner, Anna Bright, Kate Fahey. In other words, pretty much all PB players are in the top 5, in addition to Djokovic .