Coric > blacked out racquet

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Won challenger in Switzerland with a new blacked out Head frame (can see the Head bumper in 2nd pic)
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Guess we can rule out radical/extreme with both having different colored bumpers assuming head wouldn’t black those out. Safe money on a gravity of some sort? Need more pics to get a better view of that head shape!
 
hy_0878 said:
Guess we can rule out radical/extreme with both having different colored bumpers assuming head wouldn’t black those out. Safe money on a gravity of some sort? Need more pics to get a better view of that head shape!
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Its 18x20 by the looks so Speed Pro, or Gravity by the beam i guess
 
What was Wilson’s slogan back then? Win more or something like that. Honestly I haven’t used a Wilson frame in 10 years but this is a big decline that they are going
 
AndrewUtz said:
what is your opinion on the 301 layups? I wonder why he went with this as opposed to the newer speed mold.
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I did not like the 301. But just like many wanted to try the PT346.1 during ND years at #1, now the 301 is getting popularity…
 
dr325i said:
How do you measure that - because they lost a challenger player and Tsitsipas or by their market share. Because, they still hold the #1 spot in racquet sports globally
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Yes, they still hold the #1 spot, but they are admittedly losing dominance, and their first-mover advantage is dwindling. Also, calling Coric a "challenger player" when he's won at the Masters level is a bit disrespectful of his talent.
 
dr325i said:
How do you measure that - because they lost a challenger player and Tsitsipas or by their market share. Because, they still hold the #1 spot in racquet sports globally
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Perhaps I exaggerated the term ‘big decline’ but losing some key Wilson players that endorsing their frames is not a good look marketing wise (I get that some aren’t selling frames as others top Wilson users) And there’s no doubt they are for sure still #1 globally
 
dr325i said:
How do you measure that - because they lost a challenger player and Tsitsipas or by their market share. Because, they still hold the #1 spot in racquet sports globally
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i had the blue zverev edition that i gave to my friend as his first racquet and he barely plays. may try to get it back…

edit: quoted the wrong post. Sorry.
 
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David Le said:
Perhaps I exaggerated the term ‘big decline’ but losing some key Wilson players that endorsing their frames is not a good look marketing wise (I get that some aren’t selling frames as others top Wilson users) And there’s no doubt they are for sure still #1 globally
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It is lesson to learn for Wilson. I think Tsitsipas would still play with his Blade unless Medjedovic had beat him playing literally on one leg. It was magical kick that triggered the change. It seems like Wilson does not have something that is currently in demand - combination of forgiveness, spin and power in 98' head and thin beam package. Blade is too soft to be as powerful as PA98 and has average spin potential. Stef could theoretically adopt RF01 Pro, if he wanted to stick with W, but he chose easier racket to play.
 
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Lavs said:
It is lesson to learn for Wilson. I think Tsitsipas would still play with his Blade unless Medjedovic had beat him playing literally on one leg. It was magical kick that triggered the change. It seems like Wilson does not have something that is currently in demand - combination of forgiveness, spin and power. Blade is too soft to be as powerful as PA98 and has average spin potential. Stef could theoretically adopt RF01 Pro, if he wanted to stick with W, but he chose easier racket to play.
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What about a Blade 16x19 strung with RPM Blast?
 
FootFault18 said:
What about a Blade 16x19 strung with RPM Blast?
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It might be the choice, but he tried what he thought have more power and crispness... and it clicked straight away. Which is amazing.
I won't be surprised if Coric has a similar effect. Actually he had some already, winning the challenger in Lugano.
Definitely W needs to think about it and make some adjustments.
 
Lavs said:
It might be the choice, but he tried what he thought have more power and crispness... and it clicked straight away. Which is amazing.
I won't be surprised if Coric has a similar effect. Actually he had some already, winning the challenger in Lugano.
Definitely W needs to think about it and make some adjustments.
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I think Wilson can make a model based on the Pure Aero 98.
Wilson has a large history making models based in toher brands:
H22 - Head Ti / Liquidmetal Radical
H19 - Head Prestige
H25 - Head Liquidmetal Instinct
P25 - Prince O3 White
I think nothing stop Wilson to make a B23, for example

And Coric is playing with something similar to is old P25, that he used before changing to the Blade model.
 
FootFault18 said:
I think Wilson can make a model based on the Pure Aero 98.
Wilson has a large history making models based in toher brands:
H22 - Head Ti / Liquidmetal Radical
H19 - Head Prestige
H25 - Head Liquidmetal Instinct
P25 - Prince O3 White
I think nothing stop Wilson to make a B23, for example

And Coric is playing with something similar to is old P25, that he used before changing to the Blade model.
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For as long as I have been in tennis, I now realized the H and P stands for the first letter of the brand they are coding. So what’s the number behind each letter though?
 
David Le said:
For as long as I have been in tennis, I now realized the H and P stands for the first letter of the brand they are coding. So what’s the number behind each letter though?
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Yes. I realized it few years ago. Looks like a fast way to identify the models without feel a little bit blatant
 
David Le said:
For as long as I have been in tennis, I now realized the H and P stands for the first letter of the brand they are coding. So what’s the number behind each letter though?
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I think the number is the beam width in millimeters. But I don't know if it is completely true.
 
FootFault18 said:
I think Wilson can make a model based on the Pure Aero 98.
Wilson has a large history making models based in toher brands:
H22 - Head Ti / Liquidmetal Radical
H19 - Head Prestige
H25 - Head Liquidmetal Instinct
P25 - Prince O3 White
I think nothing stop Wilson to make a B23, for example

And Coric is playing with something similar to is old P25, that he used before changing to the Blade model.
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This is classical way for W for last few decades to bring something new to the market. After Pro Staff line, they unfortunately started to produce their flagships just by copying something else (you pointed this list out) :)
 
Lavs said:
It is lesson to learn for Wilson. I think Tsitsipas would still play with his Blade unless Medjedovic had beat him playing literally on one leg. It was magical kick that triggered the change. It seems like Wilson does not have something that is currently in demand - combination of forgiveness, spin and power in 98' head and thin beam package. Blade is too soft to be as powerful as PA98 and has average spin potential. Stef could theoretically adopt RF01 Pro, if he wanted to stick with W, but he chose easier racket to play.
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The RF pro does not play like the PA98, but you're right the RF would be the best Wilson could do in their current lineup
 
There seems to be some similarities (at a high level) with the speed touch mp mould and the gravity tour 98. Anyone played with both and know if they have similar playability?
 
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kesselrun said:
There seems to be some similarities (at a high level) with the speed touch mp mould and the gravity tour 98. Anyone played with both and know if they have similar playability?
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i’ve played both. bean on gravity feels smaller, maybe the radius is just more curved. I play really well with the speed mp. Gravity i played only a few mins with but i played well. the headshape threw me off a little bit. from my memory its a similar string spacing. Speed mp feels more crisp to me. but fair warning i only hit the gt98 for a couple mins.
 
dgoran said:
Not a pro by any stretch but to me the new Speed MP (Legend) feels miles better than Speed MP Touch.
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Speed MP G360+ feels better than both (imo). The legend and auxetic 2.0 are too clunky and lack in maneuverability compared to the g360+ as well imo.
 
FootFault18 said:
I think Wilson can make a model based on the Pure Aero 98.
Wilson has a large history making models based in toher brands:
H22 - Head Ti / Liquidmetal Radical
H19 - Head Prestige
H25 - Head Liquidmetal Instinct
P25 - Prince O3 White
I think nothing stop Wilson to make a B23, for example

And Coric is playing with something similar to is old P25, that he used before changing to the Blade model.
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It would honestly be really funny if Wilson just straight up put out an PA98/Pure Storm clone, but I think the fact that you can see a faint Cortex outline in some of the photos is making me lean towards it just being a Babolat.
 
dgoran said:
Not a pro by any stretch but to me the new Speed MP (Legend) feels miles better than Speed MP Touch.
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I’ve been testing the speed mp legend recently, pleasantly surprised by this racquet. Coming from a background of control frames, speed mp is surprisingly stable at such a low weight. Also don’t need a dampener with it, I think it feels great. I just need some more testing time with it to see if I can get familiar with the extra power given the racquets I’m transitioning from. This is what has me interested if there is a middle ground like the 301 mould or something like a gravity tour 98 - but my answer could be just getting familiar with the current speed mp.
 
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TennisD said:
It would honestly be really funny if Wilson just straight up put out an PA98/Pure Storm clone, but I think the fact that you can see a faint Cortex outline in some of the photos is making me lean towards it just being a Babolat.
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Wilson kind of did. It was called the Kobra Tour and Tsonga used it before switching to Babolat Aero ProDrive with cortex
https://imgur.com/a/Ifx7jgv
https://imgur.com/a/nrSOjz4
 
week before he was also try pure aero 98 from my friend (didn't like it), however he did like a lot the 100 version and bought 6 of them from us
 
kesselrun said:
I’ve been testing the speed mp legend recently, pleasantly surprised by this racquet. Coming from a background of control frames, speed mp is surprisingly stable at such a low weight. Also don’t need a dampener with it, I think it feels great. I just need some more testing time with it to see if I can get familiar with the extra power given the racquets I’m transitioning from. This is what has me interested if there is a middle ground like the 301 mould or something like a gravity tour 98 - but my answer could be just getting familiar with the current speed mp.
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What's your string setup? I put lynx tour at 45 lbs on mine and it feels like a guitar string without a dampener. Plays great though; tons of easy depth and spin.
 
lidoazndiabloboi said:
Time for Wilson to bring back the Kobra.

Wilson Kobra 100
Wilson Kobra Tour 100
Wilson Kobra Pro 98

Realistically, they need a better name than Kobra. To me, that does not sell well.
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This is what they should’ve done with the Shift. Kobra mold but with Shift tech. Add in the 16x20 for the 98 and you’d have a competitor with the likes of other 98 spin oriented frames
 
talynen said:
What's your string setup? I put lynx tour at 45 lbs on mine and it feels like a guitar string without a dampener. Plays great though; tons of easy depth and spin.
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Currently head lynx and it’s extremely plush. Great all round string, underrated, but I might try a 1.30 string next just to see if I can get a slight bit more control. Given it’s a speed mp I should just go head hawk touch in 1.30……but I’m not going to go anywhere close to 60 pounds lol - might try it at 50. I used head hawk touch 1.25 in an ezone 98 recently and liked it, but in saying that I didn’t like the ezone - found the speed to be far more stable and forgiving.
 
kesselrun said:
Currently head lynx and it’s extremely plush. Great all round string, underrated, but I might try a 1.30 string next just to see if I can get a slight bit more control. Given it’s a speed mp I should just go head hawk touch in 1.30……but I’m not going to go anywhere close to 60 pounds lol - might try it at 50. I used head hawk touch 1.25 in an ezone 98 recently and liked it, but in saying that I didn’t like the ezone - found the speed to be far more stable and forgiving.
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Interesting! Thanks for the reply
 
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