Could Rune be next for Ivanisevic?

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middleballs

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This is of course pure speculation at this point, but I just listened to the interview with Goran Ivanisevic on The Tennis Podcast where he said he’d be looking for a new player to coach come September.

Rune still seems to be in a pretty bad place and like many others I’m deeply skeptical of Mouratoglou. If the Dane doesn’t get the results he wants and needs, the Frenchman will
most likely be sacked (again). At the same time, Goran said he’d be interested to coach a young player next time and also, in another segment of the pod, briefly mentioned Rune as a player with big potential who hasn’t been able to work it all out yet.

If you combine age, potential and current place in the rankings, I’d say Rune is pretty much the most interesting chowing on tour for a high profile coach at this moment (also given that many other top players has their teams set at this point.

What do you think?
 
I think Rune should go for Ivanisevic if there is no cultural barrier or communication issues, if it fits then Goran will be the best coach on the market right now, a guy who was coaching Djokovic until days back is a superb catch for an upcoming 20 year old.
 
Goran has to know that a volatile personality like himself is not going to be a great fit for a volatile situation like the Rune entourage. He will quit or be fired in six months. I also don’t think Mouratoglou will be fired anytime soon since this is his second tenure and the mom is not traveling everywhere anymore.

I think young up-and coming stars with potential like Medjedovic, Prizmic, Mensik, Fils might be of more interest.
 
socallefty said:
Goran has to know that a volatile personality like himself is not going to be a great fit for a volatile situation like the Rune entourage. He will quit or be fired in six months. I also don’t think Mouratoglou will be fired anytime soon since this is his second tenure and the mom is not traveling everywhere anymore.

I think young up-and coming stars with potential like Medjedovic, Prizmic, Mensik, Fils might be of more interest.
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You’ve got some valid points there for sure. Given Rune’s dubious recent history with coaches, his camp would obviously need to convince Goran that the he’d get the time he need to do what he finds necessary.

As for the other player options, that is of course entirely possible. Rune has shown actual capabilities though, not least when he took his Masters title by defeating Novak in the final. That’s actual proof of talent which must been taken into consideration.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
He has great natural potential to serve. But played in college level where never had to take accuracy on serve to high extent.

Goran can possibly make him into the next servebot probably better than raonic because he is far more athletic.
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I guess. But no slams will be won. Sinner would be more unstoppable than he already is if he hires Goran. Better career than Carlos on grass and hard courts for sure if his serve improves if he hires Goran
 
dking68 said:
I guess. But no slams will be won. Sinner would be more unstoppable than he already is if he hires Goran. Better career than Carlos on grass and hard courts for sure if his serve improves if he hires Goran
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You don't know that
Stop being so arrogant all the time
 
nolefam_2024 said:
You don't know that
Stop being so arrogant all the time
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His hold percentage is 94% and his return is 32%. He would be unstoppable. Plus he’s saving break points 75% of the time, he’s the clutchest player on tour. Either way he’s ending number one this year
 
dking68 said:
His hold percentage is 94% and his return is 32%. He would be unstoppable. Plus he’s saving break points 75% of the time. Either way he’s ending number one this year
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Ok
Hope he breaks his hip then

Possible right? Then hold percentage may go down to 50%?

Everything is possible. Stop shoving sinner down others throat when we are not talking about him.

Ivanesevic can coach Shelton
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Ok
Hope he breaks his hip then

Possible right? Then hold percentage may go down to 50%?

Everything is possible. Stop shoving sinner down others throat when we are not talking about him.

Ivanesevic can coach Shelton
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What would Shelton win though? Seriously?

He already isn’t slam winning level. Goran would be more inclined to coach Sinner
 
Then don't watch anything else other than sinner.

Let others watch it.

Go on ignore list man. You are NO good similar to neutralfan now
 
Why would goran waste his time with that nutjob child mommy’s boy? He just got done not sleeping for 4 years due to catering to obsessive crazy man OCD Djoker.


If you’re gonna coach go coach sinner or Carlos. Both guys could use a coaching change if they want to dominate year round. Sinner needs to work on his variety which goran can show him and Carlos needs to work on his serve which Carlos can at least help him with along with precision. Go coach someone with a future. Not someone who’s future is challenger events
 
middleballs said:
Rune still seems to be in a pretty bad place and like many others I’m deeply skeptical of Mouratoglou.
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Let's see what unfolds in the clay season. Rune has 1800 clay points to defend and will be under considerable pressure to go deep in every clay event.

Goran as a coach seems extremely unlikely. Culturally it's not a fit, and their style of play is very dissimilar. Two radically different types of guys, not a promising pairing. An analogous bad pairing was Agassi coaching Novak. Two different cultures and personalities, so it lasted a brief time.
 
I'm a Dane and my wife is Serbian. Balkan people have little understanding for a spoiled little kid from the rich north.

I think Rune is on the right track. He has been without his mom for some time and he's using his box less. I don't think all is great between him and Mouratoglou. They didn't look at each others in the last match in Miami.

All Rune needs is stability, self confidence and more humility. He also needs to stop comparing his results to the other young players. He has the game.

I also think Rune looks more mentally balanced now than he did a year ago.
 
Impetus said:
I'm a Dane and my wife is Serbian. Balkan people have little understanding for a spoiled little kid from the rich north.
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Exactly, this is why I say it's a terrible fit. Rune is a spoiled brat from a rich family and he's still very immature, Goran came from a bit of wealth (Dad a professor, mom an engineer), but eastern European level wealth, which can't compare to northern European opportunity and wealth. Just a completely different culture, expectations and just about everything else. It's exactly why Djokovic training with Agassi in the Las Vegas desert lasted exactly 3 weeks. American culture significantly different from Serb/Croat culture. Danish culture very different from Croatian culture too.
 
BeatlesFan said:
Exactly, this is why I say it's a terrible fit. Rune is a spoiled brat from a rich family and he's still very immature, Goran came from a bit of wealth (Dad a professor, mom an engineer), but eastern European level wealth, which can't compare to northern European opportunity and wealth. Just a completely different culture, expectations and just about everything else. It's exactly why Djokovic training with Agassi in the Las Vegas desert lasted exactly 3 weeks. American culture significantly different from Serb/Croat culture. Danish culture very different from Croatian culture too.
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Danish kids are soft. We see it time and time again, when our soccer players go to English clubs and meet working class kids or go to Italy and experience a much harder tone. Many of our young players simply abondon their dream and come back and are broken for years.

We set very few boundries to kids and when they are 18-20 years old they move out on their own and then they start to develop the skills of independency. Rune is especially spoiled and he comes from the richest area in Denmark. I’m sure upperclass kids from all over the world develop a special arrogance and feeling of entitlement but Rune is next level.

We also have a social way of behaviour that is very different to the Balkan style. Balkan people say things in a very direct and strong way. Danish people use irony, sarcasm and are passive-aggressive. Most Danish people try to avoid direct confrontations IRL (online is very different).
If we take the match where Rune played Medvedev as an example. Djokovic would have gone to the net and told Medvedev to tell it to his face. Rune told the umpire to intervene.
it’s very far away from what used to be the Viking culture. Back then pride was everything and you had to deal with problems on your own. The worst you could do was to lie. As long as you told the truth you could practically do anything to revenge.

I have to admit I don’t know a lot about the American culture from first hand experience. I see America as a very divided culture in many ways. In my youth I socialized with some people a summer in London from Yale, Stanford, Harvard and Princeton. They struck me as having a more broad view on the world and had a higher level than elite people from Denmark. I also remember kissing with one of the girls and I had several people from the group asking me if I was just into her because her family owned half of Manhatten. I was 18-19 and had other priorities than buildings…

You strike me as someone who has a lot of tennis experience and knowlegde. Were you a player yourself or is that a too personal question?
 
Impetus said:
You strike me as someone who has a lot of tennis experience and knowlegde. Were you a player yourself or is that a too personal question?
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I was a 5.0 in college and maintained a 4.5 into my 30's, then prioritized long distance running, which I still do. Playing tennis makes it more likely to get a knee injury which would stop me from running, so I play only in the summer now. I would never beat a 4.5 or 5.0 player now, you have to play a lot of tennis to maintain that level.

Your input on Danish culture is very interesting to me. I've spent quite a bit of time in Denmark, though not in the last 10 years and almost married a guy from Fredensborg. I loved Danish people for the most part, but agree about the passive-aggressiveness (same with many Germans!)

US culture is very different depending upon what section of the country you live in. Increasingly, the culture is also divided between young and older people too, though that is probably true for most nations.
 
Common joke when I lived in Germany.

What is the difference between yogurt and Americans?​

Yogurt has culture.

PS: Don’t hate on me - just passing along the joke I heard often (I did think it was funny though having lived in the US for 15 years before that).
 
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BeatlesFan said:
Curious why you think Patrick is the better coach than Goran? This is true for Rune, but if I was someone like Tiafoe or Tsitsipas, I'd rather have Goran.
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i was going to put "for rune" but i took it out lol..
but i do think having a world class academy is an advantage with all the facilities and players to practice with...
i like mourty unlike most folks here.. tsitsipas was doing really well with him until they split...
to me its hard to tell how good a coach goran is since novak was doing just as well beforehand (granted, how could he do any better tho lol)
 
BeatlesFan said:
I was a 5.0 in college and maintained a 4.5 into my 30's, then prioritized long distance running, which I still do. Playing tennis makes it more likely to get a knee injury which would stop me from running, so I play only in the summer now. I would never beat a 4.5 or 5.0 player now, you have to play a lot of tennis to maintain that level.

Your input on Danish culture is very interesting to me. I've spent quite a bit of time in Denmark, though not in the last 10 years and almost married a guy from Fredensborg. I loved Danish people for the most part, but agree about the passive-aggressiveness (same with many Germans!)

US culture is very different depending upon what section of the country you live in. Increasingly, the culture is also divided between young and older people too, though that is probably true for most nations.
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It's interesting to hear your story. You're really into tennis and have a lot of knowlegde about it. You also like the same things I do.

I don't know what my level is/was. I did all kind of sports and was good at most. I spend two summers in my youth playing tennis 6 hours a day seven days a week for 3-4 months. I was a good mover and have good hand/eye coordination. I also have the advantage of left eye dominance and being a righty.

My shoulder dislocated a ton of times after a skiing incident in my 20's and since then I couldn't serve properly. I have played some years since but I didn't want to compete because I was afraid my shoulder would dislocate.

Anyway. Back to the topic of Rune's coach #22 :)
 
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