Could we soon see Lorenzo Musetti in a RG final ('25 or '26)?

Will Moose appear in a RG final in the next two years?

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Feel like Lorenzo Musetti made a big leap forward by reaching the final of Monte Carlo. Will he build on this and finally reach a major final in 2025 or 2026 at Roland Garros?
 
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Doubt it. There’s at least 4-5 better players on clay who will beat him at RG most likely. And if he does get there he will probably be gassed like MC. High level in the first set and then the tank on empty the next 3 sets since he struggles to get through earlier matches easy

Not sure why anyone wants to see another finals with a gassed participant. We have seen enough of them already this season. Djoker, sinner and Fils will provide a way better finals against alcaraz if that is the finals. Zverev probably would to until his mind goes blank when he’s up 2 sets
 
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I hope this year. Him not retiring and finishing the match showed his character and what kinda of a person he really is. Much respect.
 
2025 and 2026 I think is still too early.
But let's say that between now and 2030 I would be the last one to be surprised if Musetti reached the final at Roland Garros.

His progress in the last 12 months is unmistakable, he hasn't had a disruptive escalation like that of others, but after a moment of regression that coincided between 2023 and the first part of 2024, he has started to progress again, and he is still 22 years old.

I would simply like to see him more proactive in order to better enhance his exceptional manual ability, rather than seeing him anchored to the tarpaulins with a craftsman's style as if he had a limited tennis talent like Ferrer.
 
Hard to say. He'd benefit from playing every other day. So, he would likely not get gassed as quickly as playing 3 in best of three. At the same time, it gives him more motivation to play quicker. I am curious to see how well he does in Rome.
 
Rosstour said:
Will it happen? Probably not. Could it happen? Sure!

Keep in mind who stopped him in his big title runs last year. Djoko, Djoko, and Djoko. We have no idea what he could have done if he had made it past Djoko in any of those events.
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Alcaraz holds 4-1 h2h vs him winning 4 matches on the trott. The question is about finals so he probably could have reached wimbledon finals last year without djokovic but carlos is supreme still vs him.

RG is most demanding surface and his physical issues mean he is always going to be suspect in long matches. If he faces Zverev in R16 this year, even if he beats Zverev, imagine the toll it would take on him. Zverev is the same player who went 3+ hrs vs Nadal and the match didn't even finish second set. And the same player who outlasted Sinner in USOpen 2023.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Alcaraz holds 4-1 h2h vs him winning 4 matches on the trott. The question is about finals so he probably could have reached wimbledon finals last year without djokovic but carlos is supreme still vs him.

RG is most demanding surface and his physical issues mean he is always going to be suspect in long matches. If he faces Zverev in R16 this year, even if he beats Zverev, imagine the toll it would take on him. Zverev is the same player who went 3+ hrs vs Nadal and the match didn't even finish second set. And the same player who outlasted Sinner in USOpen 2023.
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I agree. I do have this nagging feeling that his alleged lack of stamina is just a little boy who gives up when he's down in a match, and he needs to conquer that part of himself. I just can't believe he is this injury prone
 
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Dude lacks the mental fortitude to make it that far. I’ll never forget him retiring down 4-0 in the 5th set…and then admitting afterwards that he wasn’t injured. He just wasn’t able to win points anymore :rolleyes: He would have lost the last 2 sets 6-0, 6-0, but basically quit out of embarrassment (n)
 
Winner Sinner said:
2025 and 2026 I think is still too early.
But let's say that between now and 2030 I would be the last one to be surprised if Musetti reached the final at Roland Garros.

His progress in the last 12 months is unmistakable, he hasn't had a disruptive escalation like that of others, but after a moment of regression that coincided between 2023 and the first part of 2024, he has started to progress again, and he is still 22 years old.

I would simply like to see him more proactive in order to better enhance his exceptional manual ability, rather than seeing him anchored to the tarpaulins with a craftsman's style as if he had a limited tennis talent like Ferrer.
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i agree
 
I mean, if Tsitsipas, Ruud and Zverev recently reached that final, then why not someone like Musetti?

However, will it exactly be him in the next 2 years? I doubt it, but who knows.
 
I still am yet to be convinced that his body can hold up for long enough to pull that off. Maybe if he won all his matches in straight sets, but he is nowhere near ruthless enough to be that efficient.

That his best slam result (by far) came on the surface where matches are the shortest makes sense. If he can carry last seasons grass form over to this years I wouldn't be surprised to see him get closer to the Wimbledon one with a good draw.
 
ChrisRF said:
I mean, if Tsitsipas, Ruud and Zverev recently reached that final, then why not someone like Musetti?

However, will it exactly be him in the next 2 years? I doubt it, but who knows.
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Zverev has won masters at age 19. Wait what.

How is he compared to Musetti.

Tsitsipas went 4 hr vs Nadal and beat Nadal on clay.

These guys are good.

Musetti had never reached a masters semifinals till monte carlo. Tsitsipas reached ao semis at 19 and Canada final.
 
Wait what

Both zverev and tsitsipas were top 10 at age of 20.

Even ahead of sinner I think. How are they compared to Musetti ?
 
Aabye5 said:
Feel like Lorenzo Musetti made a big leap forward by reaching the final of Monte Carlo. Will he build on this and finally reach a major final in 2025 or 2026 at Roland Garros?
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He has reached the semis of W. If he is healthy RG finals is a possibility.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Zverev has won masters at age 19. Wait what.

How is he compared to Musetti.

Tsitsipas went 4 hr vs Nadal and beat Nadal on clay.

These guys are good.

Musetti had never reached a masters semifinals till monte carlo. Tsitsipas reached ao semis at 19 and Canada final.
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Musetti played 5 sets against Djokovic at RG twice, one of those matches at age 19 and in a year when Djokovic won RG in the end.

And by the way, I just said he might be a candidate, not that he will definitely do it.
 
ChrisRF said:
Musetti played 5 sets against Djokovic at RG twice, one of those matches at age 19 and in a year when Djokovic won RG in the end.

And by the way, I just said he might be a candidate, not that he will definitely do it.
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Yes but you said if zverev and tsitsipas can do it , why not Musetti.

Like they are second rate players especially on clay.

You can dump on rudd I won't care.
 
Win rate at Roland garros

Zverev 79%
Tsitsipas 76%
Ruud 77% - weak draws. He beat zero top 5 player. Didn't even give competition.
Musetti 67%.
 
Musetti is a bit of an outlier from usual suspects, but I will keep him as a serious top dark horse that in any given year can win it. Just need a little draw assistance with his best play.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Zverev has won masters at age 19. Wait what.

How is he compared to Musetti.

Tsitsipas went 4 hr vs Nadal and beat Nadal on clay.

These guys are good.

Musetti had never reached a masters semifinals till monte carlo. Tsitsipas reached ao semis at 19 and Canada final.
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No, Tsitsipas played in the 2018 Canada Open final and the 2019 Australian Open semifinals at the age of 20.
:D
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Win rate at Roland garros

Zverev 79%
Tsitsipas 76%
Ruud 77% - weak draws. He beat zero top 5 player. Didn't even give competition.
Musetti 67%.
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And yet...they falter at the end?

Musetti has grown, while one of my biggest complaints with the Little 3 was the unwillingness to adapt.

Zed has a reputation for being uncoachable, it took Stef a thousand years to try out a new racquet (not like there is no precedence -- see Roger). Med is at least smart as a player and has even seen success on clay and grass, but mid-match he sticks to his guns too much.
 
Aabye5 said:
And yet...they falter at the end?

Musetti has grown, while one of my biggest complaints with the Little 3 was the unwillingness to adapt.

Zed has a reputation for being uncoachable, it took Stef a thousand years to try out a new racquet (not like there is no precedence -- see Roger). Med is at least smart as a player and has even seen success on clay and grass, but mid-match he sticks to his guns too much.
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Musetti can reach rg finals in future.

My objections are saying if zverev and tsitsi can reach then statement.

There is huge difference between them and Musetti.
 
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