Could you beat either one of these 70 yr olds? (Full match highlights)

When I was in college; there was a 72 year old guy that at times; beat several top 10 division one player during practice. He just had a very sly, deceptive game that use the players topspin and pace on their groundstrokes against the player. Serve was weak but had good placement. He was not fast but cover the court pretty good. It was power vs. strategy!
 
navigator said:
Ummm... let me save you the time and money. He will only be interested in this "challenge match" if you pay his hourly rate which I'm guessing is $100/hour, or thereabouts. If said match occurs you will lose 0/0 - no games will make it to deuce - in less than an hour, including a lengthy warm-up and your inevitable chit chat barrage. He's chubby now but he's still twice your speed (recall, we've seen your videos) and still crushes the ball.
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I'm afraid you've only 'seen' what you wanted to see.

I have yet to see a Tennis player over the age of 50 move anywhere near as good as I do.
(please post some video of anyone who does, I'd love to see it)


navigator said:
Having said that... if you're really interested, I'll be happy to pay for your hour with Kriek if you'll agree to play two sets and post a video of the entire match. That would be comedy gold. Please advise as to how to make this happen.
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I can cover the $100, but can you handle it IF I beat him?

I'm afraid your little world, and mind, would come crumbling down.
 
BounceHitBounceHit said:
It is fun to fantasize about some of these match ups. Less fun (if assuming by “fun” you mean any match you imagine even some remote chance of winning) to actually face them on court. Start with @webtennis, or Nav, or me. [emoji41] See how that goes then aim higher if not sufficiently challenged. [emoji106] Best, BHBH


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Well, I've hit with a former top 300 ATP pro, in his 40's, more than once.

Then a Kim Clijsters clone that played #1 on a State College team, and we
played some points as well, and she didn't outhit or outplay me. (REALLY
should have gotten some video)

Considering that, the 'aim higher if not sufficiently challenged' rings a bit
hollow.

I'll see IF I can entice Kriek to play, or at least pay him to hit some.

AND, I'll make sure to video it!
 
2good4U said:
Well, I've hit with a former top 300 ATP pro, in his 40's, more than once.

Then a Kim Clijsters clone that played #1 on a State College team, and we
played some points as well, and she didn't outhit or outplay me. (REALLY
should have gotten some video)

Considering that, the 'aim higher if not sufficiently challenged' rings a bit
hollow.

I'll see IF I can entice Kriek to play, or at least pay him to hit some.

AND, I'll make sure to video it!
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Terrific. I will look forward to the video. Good luck. @88Tennis88

Kriek was a regular hitting partner of a close friend of mine back in their tour days. If you like I can have him put in a good word if you are having trouble arranging the hit.

Best,

BHBH
 
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2good4U said:
Well, I've hit with a former top 300 ATP pro, in his 40's, more than once.

Then a Kim Clijsters clone that played #1 on a State College team, and we
played some points as well, and she didn't outhit or outplay me. (REALLY
should have gotten some video)

Considering that, the 'aim higher if not sufficiently challenged' rings a bit
hollow.

I'll see IF I can entice Kriek to play, or at least pay him to hit some.

AND, I'll make sure to video it!
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Great. Haven't seen Kriek play since I saw him TV as a kid. I always like seeing video of amateurs playing pros or ex-pros.

Found this 47 ball rally of him at the French Open. (at 04:17)
 
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Wise one said:
I'm surprised at Brent's laziness. He takes too much time to get to forward net and then dumps it in the net. Why is he using a huge racquet, if he is so damned good? I could beat him with wood!
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I think he moves well for some 70+ years old. I don't see many 70+ year olds playing tennis. Come to think of it, I don't see a lot of 70+ year olds playing sports in general. (e.g. basketball)
 
onehandbh said:
I think he moves well for some 70+ years old. I don't see many 70+ year olds playing tennis. Come to think of it, I don't see a lot of 70+ year olds playing sports in general. (e.g. basketball)
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I'm only a year or so younger. I would beat him!
 
2good4U said:
I have yet to see a Tennis player over the age of 50 move anywhere near as good as I do.
(please post some video of anyone who does, I'd love to see it)
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I'm 50 and I move a lot better than you. There are some videos of me in the video thread. Again, we've seen your videos - you move like a lobster with lead in your shoes.

2good4U said:
I can cover the $100, but can you handle it IF I beat him?
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Put the crack pipe down. You've never played competitive tennis in your life - not as a junior, not in college, not as an adult, not as a senior. I'm betting you've never played a sanctioned tournament in your life. [Feel free to prove me wrong and post the result.] Which is why you're so delusional regarding your own level - you simply don't know what you don't know. You're not winning a game off of Kriek - not even close. It's perfectly ok not to play competitive tennis; it is silly in your case, however, to pretend that you're remotely competitive with folks who do.

2good4U said:
Well, I've hit with a former top 300 ATP pro, in his 40's, more than once.
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The operative word here is "hit." "Hitting" is not the same as "playing a match"... two totally, completely, 100% different things. I could "hit" with John McEnroe and the untrained observer who knew little about tennis would say, "oh, I don't know, they look about even," then I would lose 0/0/0/0/0, etc. That you fail to understand this just reinforces what a clueless, albeit entertaining, buffoon you are.

I reiterate my offer from many moons ago... I'm happy to play you - for money if you like (you brought it up originally) - video it and post it here. And/or, you can play Kriek. I realize you'll never follow through on this, but I'm certain he'll play with you if you can pay his fee.
 
navigator said:
You've never played competitive tennis in your life - not as a junior, not in college, not as an adult, not as a senior. I'm betting you've never played a sanctioned tournament in your life. [Feel free to prove me wrong and post the result.] Which is why you're so delusional regarding your own level - you simply don't know what you don't know. You're not winning a game off of Kriek - not even close. It's perfectly ok not to play competitive tennis; it is silly in your case, however, to pretend that you're remotely competitive with folks who do.
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General rule of thumb is, anyone that talks big, especially to strangers, (be it golf, tennis, basketball or whatever) is almost certainly garbage.

I've met a lot of golfers that claim to shoot "right around par" but somehow "can't believe how terrible I'm playing today; yesterday....." (they are often worse than bogey golfers with penalties and missed putts, etc. But man, can they ever hit a drive a long way!!! Too bad it goes into the woods half the time).

The funny thing is, they are so delusional (and inexperienced) that they think you believe them..."ya, I can see you are at least a scratch golfer. I bet you haven't shot this badly in 20 years. Oh well, it even happens to the best of us".

And obviously, the same is true for tennis.
 
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I watched the second set. Brent would be way too good for me, and I have 30 years on him. He's getting 90% of his 1st serves in, won nearly 70% of those points. He keeps the ball deep. When Yearwood gives him a short one he comes in and wins about two thirds of them. Hits more winners than UEs. Yearwood had little joy coming in against him - there were a number of points where Brent hit a short cross-court winner within a few inches of the line against that, and a number of points where it looks like an UE from Yearwood, but it's actually just Brent giving him a tough volley.
 
Wise one said:
I'm only a year or so younger. I would beat him!
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Sure you would you would also beat would the young girl that’s a very good player. But of course you won’t show any video, that’s about normal around here though the guys that talk the biggest game never show any video of them actually hitting instead It’s nothing but big talk.

Then you claim your phone has no video camera. Okay but there has to be someone where you play that has a phone that can record some footage. It only takes a few minutes of video to show your greatness, but of course then you would be exposed for being the fraud that you are.
 
If anyone wants to play a senior former top pro, Jimmy Arias is on staff at Bath & Racquet, one of the top tennis clubs in Sarasota, Fl.
 
navigator said:
Ummm... let me save you the time and money. He will only be interested in this "challenge match" if you pay his hourly rate which I'm guessing is $100/hour, or thereabouts. If said match occurs you will lose 0/0 - no games will make it to deuce - in less than an hour, including a lengthy warm-up and your inevitable chit chat barrage. He's chubby now but he's still twice your speed (recall, we've seen your videos) and still crushes the ball.

Having said that... if you're really interested, I'll be happy to pay for your hour with Kriek if you'll agree to play two sets and post a video of the entire match. That would be comedy gold. Please advise as to how to make this happen.
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Johan would charge at least 5 times that much to get out there and play me. And like me, I don't think he gives a crap about beating me 0 & 0. And what would that prove? Really. What would it prove? I couldn't care less if I get beat by a former top 10 guy even if he's a bit out of playing shape. What does it prove to him and what does it prove to me? Absolutely nothing. This whole thing about who could be who is pointless ...
 
From my perspective this thread is about perspective. [emoji41]

A lot of players have trouble with judging the scale and levels of tennis. They watch players hit, or even play, and they think, “Oh I can do that” but there’s no experience to lend perspective.

That’s all.... [emoji56]




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webtennis said:
Johan would charge at least 5 times that much to get out there and play me. And like me, I don't think he gives a crap about beating me 0 & 0. And what would that prove? Really. What would it prove? I couldn't care less if I get beat by a former top 10 guy even if he's a bit out of playing shape. What does it prove to him and what does it prove to me? Absolutely nothing. This whole thing about who could be who is pointless ...
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Agree completely. Now go explain that to 2good4U. My comments were directed at him as a response to his posts, not you or yours.
 
2good4U said:
Well, I've hit with a former top 300 ATP pro, in his 40's, more than once.

Then a Kim Clijsters clone that played #1 on a State College team, and we
played some points as well, and she didn't outhit or outplay me. (REALLY
should have gotten some video)

Considering that, the 'aim higher if not sufficiently challenged' rings a bit
hollow.

I'll see IF I can entice Kriek to play, or at least pay him to hit some.

AND, I'll make sure to video it!
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Okie dokie
 
2good4U said:
Well, I've hit with a former top 300 ATP pro, in his 40's, more than once.

Then a Kim Clijsters clone that played #1 on a State College team, and we
played some points as well, and she didn't outhit or outplay me. (REALLY
should have gotten some video)

Considering that, the 'aim higher if not sufficiently challenged' rings a bit
hollow.

I'll see IF I can entice Kriek to play, or at least pay him to hit some.

AND, I'll make sure to video it!
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Hitting with a good player is very easy. When I hit with lower-level players, I quickly figure out where to put the ball so that the lower-level player can return it most easily. If they like a low backhand and a high forehand, that's where I place the ball. The higher the level of player, the more they will be able to place it in your best strike-zone so you can have good rallies. Also, they can control their shots to make points competitive and fun. There's no purpose in just beating up on you.

When I was an open-level player and my wife at the time was a 3.5 level player, we would have very good hitting sessions. Sometimes we would play a set. It would be a competitive and fun set that I would win about 6-4 usually.
When I broke my foot and had my foot in a cast - the old white plaster kind up to my knee with a rubber peg on the bottom - I would still hit with her. We played a set. I still beat her 6-4. She got really mad at me - may have been the beginning of the end of our marriage.
Even with the cast on, I could have beaten her by much more.

People really don't understand how many levels of tennis there are.
 
NLBwell said:
When I broke my foot and had my foot in a cast - the old white plaster kind up to my knee with a rubber peg on the bottom - I would still hit with her. We played a set. I still beat her 6-4. She got really mad at me - may have been the beginning of the end of our marriage.
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What would have happened if you had played the whole set using the tactic of an endless cycle of dropshots and lobs?
 
onehandbh said:
What would have happened if you had played the whole set using the tactic of an endless cycle of dropshots and lobs?
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More important question is if the wife was hell bent on winning why didn't she employ those tactics with the hubby having his foot in a cast?
 
BounceHitBounceHit said:
Kriek was a regular hitting partner of a close friend of mine back in their tour days.
If you like I can have him put in a good word if you are having trouble arranging the hit.
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Just tell him if he wants to hit with 2 of the best mid-50 players,
he's more than welcome to, though he may not be able to hang
with us, depending on what kind of shape he's in.
 
navigator said:
I'm 50 and I move a lot better than you. There are some videos of me in the video thread. Again, we've seen your videos - you move like a lobster with lead in your shoes.
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No one 'moves a lot better than' me, period.

But keep the derision coming, it let's me know who I'm dealing with.


navigator said:
Put the crack pipe down. You've never played competitive tennis in your life - not as a junior, not in college, not as an adult, not as a senior. I'm betting you've never played a sanctioned tournament in your life. [Feel free to prove me wrong and post the result.] Which is why you're so delusional regarding your own level - you simply don't know what you don't know. You're not winning a game off of Kriek - not even close. It's perfectly ok not to play competitive tennis; it is silly in your case, however, to pretend that you're remotely competitive with folks who do.
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I played points with the #1 State College gal, got a good idea how I'd do.
(held my own)




navigator said:
The operative word here is "hit." "Hitting" is not the same as "playing a match"... two totally, completely, 100% different things. I could "hit" with John McEnroe and the untrained observer who knew little about tennis would say, "oh, I don't know, they look about even," then I would lose 0/0/0/0/0, etc. That you fail to understand this just reinforces what a clueless, albeit entertaining, buffoon you are.
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Again, plenty of better players can get a good idea how good you are from watching you hit.

They aren't 'two totally, completely, 100% different things'.

But just keep the hyperbole and insults coming, sparky.

navigator said:
I reiterate my offer from many moons ago... I'm happy to play you - for money if you like (you brought it up originally) - video it and post it here. And/or, you can play Kriek. I realize you'll never follow through on this, but I'm certain he'll play with you if you can pay his fee.
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What's his fee?
 
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mad dog1 said:
Can’t imagine why any former pro willingly would want to hit with him on their own accord unless he has a friend who ibas connections with pros to arrange it which is a possibility.
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I put an ad on craigslist with video of my hitting and he answered it.

Imagine that!
 
2good4U said:
No one 'moves a lot better than' me, period.

But keep the derision coming, it let's me know who I'm dealing with.
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Ummm, you're insane. We've seen the videos, for god's sake. Your move... poorly.

2good4U said:
I played points with the #1 State College gal, got a good idea how I'd do.
(held my own)
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Odd how that's the video you failed to make... anyhow, video, official results, or play with a TT forum member... or it didn't happen (as you allege, at least).

2good4U said:
Again, plenty of better players can get a good idea how good you are from watching you hit.

They aren't 'two totally, completely, 100% different things'.

But just keep the hyperbole and insults coming, sparky.
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Uh, no, just... no. Again, you're just reiterating what you don't know about tennis.

2good4U said:
What's his fee?
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Irrelevant. I'll pay his fee. Don't worry about the fee. Just set up the match, I'll pay the fee, you video it and post it. A child could do this.

On a separate but related note: "Many people are full of themselves - & full of SH#T"... have you contemplated the irony of your signature? I'm thinking... no.
 
2good4U said:
Well, I've hit with a former top 300 ATP pro, in his 40's, more than once.

Then a Kim Clijsters clone that played #1 on a State College team, and we
played some points as well, and she didn't outhit or outplay me. (REALLY
should have gotten some video)

Considering that, the 'aim higher if not sufficiently challenged' rings a bit
hollow.

I'll see IF I can entice Kriek to play, or at least pay him to hit some.

AND, I'll make sure to video it!
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2good4U said:
I put an ad on craigslist with video of my hitting and he answered it.

Imagine that!
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2good4U said:
He answered the ad, and we hit.

Twice, in fact.
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Let me get this straight. You placed an ad on Craigslist looking for a hitting partner and a former top 300 ATP player just happened to be looking on Craigslist for a hitting partner? I'll admit, I'm not familiar with the general habits of (former) touring pros, but I'd be surprised if they troll Craigslist looking for a meetup/hit with strangers.

Anyway, I'm sure your skill level is probably right around top 300 in the world, but you are just a bit "reticent" to show off in public (meaning at tournaments that publish results). But not so reticent as to openly brag on a tennis website.
 
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r2473 said:
Let me get this straight. You placed an ad on Craigslist looking for a hitting partner and a former top 300 ATP player just happened to be looking on Craigslist for a hitting partner? I'll admit, I'm not familiar with the general habits of (former) touring pros, but I'd be surprised if they troll Craigslist looking for a meetup/hit with strangers.

Anyway, I'm sure your skill level is probably right around top 300 in the world, but you are just a bit "reticent" to show off in public (meaning at tournaments that publish results). But not so reticent as to openly brag on a tennis website.
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Top 300? Kriek won the AO twice and (if memory serves correctly) was top 10, maybe top 5. [emoji462][emoji471][emoji471][emoji462]

It is certainly believable he seeks his hitting partners on Craigslist [emoji56]


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BounceHitBounceHit said:
Top 300? Kriek won the AO twice and (if memory serves correctly) was top 10, maybe top 5. [emoji462][emoji471][emoji471][emoji462]

It is certainly believable he seeks his hitting partners on Craigslist [emoji56]
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I think Kriek's name came up in the thread, because 2good4U said he would try to see if Kriek would play with him. The top 300 ATP pro who answered the craigslist ad was someone else...if I'm reading his posts correctly.
 
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