mike danny
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Is Messi the greatest athlete ftom Argentina? And Ronaldo the greatest from Portugal?
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Man dont tell me things I already know, cause I was totally subjective here because I dont like F1 anymore and especially not RäikkönenAlthough thouse runners are very respected in Finland, I think still Litmanen is by far our best athlete all times.
Is Messi the greatest athlete ftom Argentina? And Ronaldo the greatest from Portugal?
Argentina will always be between Messi and Maradona. Funny thing is that most local Argentine's always seem to say Maradona>Messi, but people from other countries usually say Messi>Maradona so idk what to say about this debate anymore. C Ronaldo is probably Portugal's GOAT though. Some could argue Eusebio but most usually go with CR7Is Messi the greatest athlete ftom Argentina? And Ronaldo the greatest from Portugal?
Don is greatest from Australia and he is still in his own league, if you change what Don accomplished in form of tennis, it will be like around 35+ slam with second best on 20 .Rod Laver for Australia. Rod Laver is a legend.
As for Russian athletes that others mentioned earlier, the best athlete from that country is Aleksandr Karelin. Karelin has a strong case for being the greatest alhlete of all time. The guy won 3 consecutive Olympic gold medals and was undefeated for 13 consecutive years. He had another stint of being unddfeated for 5 years, which means he lost once in an 18 year span. He also went 6 straight years without along a single point! He had a record of 880-2. When he lost to an American and had to settle for a silver medal, he left his belt on the ring and never wrestled again.
Is Messi the greatest athlete ftom Argentina? And Ronaldo the greatest from Portugal?
Are astronauts athletes?
Maradona>>>>>>>MessiFor Argentina, I personally rank Maradona over Messi, with his 1986 World Cup heroics and superhuman achievements for Napoli.
Recently I have changed my mind in the Messi vs. Ronaldo debate, and think that Ronaldo is greater for 3 reasons:
1) Ronaldo’s record for Portugal has been greater than Messi’s has been for Argentina. Portugal have clearly been a weaker team in terms of players and depth than Argentina during both their international careers, but Ronaldo has won a major trophy with Portugal while Messi hasn’t won anything at senior level with Argentina. Admittedly Pepe not Ronaldo was Portugal’s best player at Euro 2016, but then again Mascherano not Messi was the main reason why Argentina got to the 2014 World Cup final.
2) Ronaldo now clearly has the greater Champions League record than Messi, with a modern day record of 5 titles in the modern era, smashing the goal record and clearly much better performances than Messi in the big knockout games with hat-tricks and doubles galore. Messi was largely anonymous against Juventus and Roma during the past couple of seasons while Ronaldo has produced incredible performances against the likes of Bayern and Juventus.
3) Ronaldo has proven himself and starred in the both of the 2 best leagues in the world which have drastically different styles, the Premier League in England and La Liga in Spain, winning everything there is to win with both Man Utd and Real Madrid and winning the European golden shoe from both leagues. Admittedly that is harsh on Messi though, as for much of his career Barcelona have been superior to every single Premier League club so a move to England would have been a step down.
For Argentina, Manu Ginobili has to be up there as well, starring for Argentina as they won the gold medal at the 2004 Olympics (the only time that the USA hasn't won the basketball gold medal since they starting sending NBA players to the Olympics in 1992), and winning 4 NBA titles with the San Antonio Spurs.
Maradona>>>>MessiArgentina will always be between Messi and Maradona. Funny thing is that most local Argentine's always seem to say Maradona>Messi, but people from other countries usually say Messi>Maradona so idk what to say about this debate anymore. C Ronaldo is probably Portugal's GOAT though. Some could argue Eusebio but most usually go with CR7
Messi? Maradona, please.Is Messi the greatest athlete ftom Argentina? And Ronaldo the greatest from Portugal?
If really so, people from other countries have a reasoning problem.Argentina will always be between Messi and Maradona. Funny thing is that most local Argentine's always seem to say Maradona>Messi, but people from other countries usually say Messi>Maradona so idk what to say about this debate anymore. C Ronaldo is probably Portugal's GOAT though. Some could argue Eusebio but most usually go with CR7
Nope.
Maradona is greater than Messi. Actually he's the Goat in football.Is Messi the greatest athlete ftom Argentina? And Ronaldo the greatest from Portugal?
And Ronaldo the greatest from Portugal?
Maradona>>>>>>>Messi
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...d-best-spanish-sportsman-of-all-times.483967/Apart from Switzerland I cannot think of a single country whose greatest Athlete would be a tennis player, and I think of Federer and Hingis because I cannot think of any other athletes from that country. For most countries their greatest Athlete's would probably be a soccer player or a runner. For America who knows but it wouldn't necessarily be a Tennis player either.
Who is Teemu Salanne? I know only Teemu Selänne aka the FinnishFlashAnd yes he is for sure our greatest hockey player all times from Finland, alongside with Kurri who was like we all know the "dynamic duo" with Gretzky in Edmonton
Also Selänne is one of the best scorers all time in NHL, and he made the rookies record as goals in his first season in NHL when he made 76 goals, and that is for sure that no rookie will ever broke that record
I mean hardly no one goes over 50 goals these days anymore, expect Ovie and maybe Laine in future.
True but of course at the time was competing for the Soviet Union, thus the confusion.Bubka is Ukrainian, though.
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A lot of baseball players were high level football players in high school.Baseball overall definitely requires more athleticism than golf. It's one of my least favorite sports, but I think this is undebatable really.
Hitting a baseball and golf ball are comparable in that you could argue they are more both very hard to learn skills than athletic talents, but the raw power many baseball hitters have trumps most long driving golfers. Golf ball hitting is even more of a "skill" than hitting a baseball, whereas hitting is sort of a mix of a skill but also require incredible athleticism. It has been described as the toughest thing to do in sports, I think because it requires both skill and timing but also a very athletic motion and a strong, tough but fluid upper body. It is harder in principle I think to hit a hard ball traveling up to 100 MPH from over 60 feet away with a wooden bat versus driving a still, small golf ball off the ground.
Pitching as well requires a certain kind of athletic talent, the throwing motion which again requires a ton of upper body strength and angular momentum. Driving the golf ball does as well but not as much IMO---again it's more of a pure skill I think and that's not even getting into iron play and putting, which is totally eye-hand coordination and doesn't require any special sort of athletic specimen.
The real difference is in the field though. Your representation of fielders lack of frequent duties is humorous and somewhat true, but it doesn't change what is required of them physically when they are asked to do their jobs. Pretty much every great fielder is also a phenomenal athlete. They have to "make plays", move as fast as possible to close in on a ball and often make acrobatic catches, and throws from out of position in a literal race against the runner. There is no equivalent in golf.
It is true some baseball players are out of shape--designated hitters can be big, powerful, but fat burly guys or guys who are mainly good hitters and play the bases also aren't necessarily the most chiseled guys---but so are some golfers in not amazing shape equally. The thing is to play certain positions in baseball you must be in pretty good shape, it is very difficult to be a shortstop, CF, LF, or RF and be in bad shape. The same is not true for a golfer---being in good shape might help (see Tiger Woods although some argue he has been too muscular for his own good), but it isn't a clear correlation.
Any Japanese athletes more famous than Nishikori?
Any Japanese athletes more famous than Nishikori?
... and I think of Federer and Hingis because I cannot think of any other athletes from that country. ..
Apart from Switzerland I cannot think of a single country whose greatest Athlete would be a tennis player, and I think of Federer and Hingis because I cannot think of any other athletes from that country. For most countries their greatest Athlete's would probably be a soccer player or a runner. For America who knows but it wouldn't necessarily be a Tennis player either.
Maybe currently, but there were more acomplished sports people from Croatia, in the days of Yugoslavia. Dražen Petrović, Mate Parlov, come to mind instantly. I personally think that less known Veljko Rogošić was even grater...Croatia- Luka Modric
Apart from Switzerland I cannot think of a single country whose greatest Athlete would be a tennis player, and I think of Federer and Hingis because I cannot think of any other athletes from that country. For most countries their greatest Athlete's would probably be a soccer player or a runner. For America who knows but it wouldn't necessarily be a Tennis player either.
Wasn’t Iva majoli the first?I can understand why they went crazy for Ivanisevic. First Croatian to win a major and it wasn't that long after they gained independence. But the likes of Boban (damn he was a classy player), Prosinecki and Modric nowadays are always going to be more popular as football is a way more popular sport than tennis.
Wasn’t Iva majoli the first?
Each Countries greatest athlete would probably be:
USA- Michael Jordan (could be countless others though)
Canada- Wayne Gretzky
Australia- Rod Laver
France- Zinedine Zidane
Brazil- Pele (or "Fat Ronaldo")
Japan- Ichiro Suzuki
Czech Republic- Jaromir Jagr or Martina Navratilova
Argentina- Messi or Maradona (can't go wrong with either)
Switzerland- Fedr
Spain- Rafa Nadal
Serbia- Djoker
Portugal- C Ronaldo
Germany- Franz Beckenbauer
Russia/Soviet Union- Lev Yashin
Netherlands- Johan Cruyff
South Korea- Yuna Kim or Inbee Park
Sweden- Bjorn Borg
Poland- Adam Małysz
Croatia- Luka Modric
China- Yao Ming (tbh other than Li Na, he's the only athlete ik from China)
South Africa- Gary Player or AB de Villiers
Italy- Gigi Buffon (could be a few others though)
Ireland- Connor McGregor
Philippines- Manny Pacquiao
Northern Ireland- George Best or Rory McIlroy
Scotland- Mury GOAT
England- Mo Farah
Lol at France, Germany, China, Netherlands and Russia.
Italy and Argentina are very questionable too.
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Zidane is almost certainly the best French athlete of all time
Why UK isn't listed as unified country?Northern Ireland- George Best or Rory McIlroy
Scotland- Mury GOAT
England- Mo Farah
You should name better sportsmen instead of just lol no-ing.Lol
I love Zizu, but he ain't the best.
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You should name better sportsmen instead of just lol no-ing.
Pretty pointless otherwise.Why?
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Pretty pointless otherwise.
No, it is not.
How many names do you need?
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Because there are 4 countries within it? Redgrave is probably the greatest anywayWhy UK isn't listed as unified country?
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1 would be a good start
Well, in all sports but soccer they play under unified flag... If the union splited, then listings should be separate, even for previous achievements.Because there are 4 countries within it? Redgrave is probably the greatest anyway