Crazy Tie Off Positions

myservenow

Semi-Pro
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I’m not the most experienced stringer , but strung this racquet yesterday and actually had a few expletives slip out when I got to the final tie-off on the crosses. The cross tie-off is at 11 Throat. There was barely enough room to pass the string through and loop it around for the tie-off. It was frustrating to say the least and I didn’t feel like I got the knot cinched up close enough to the grommet because there just was no room. It fell into place when I released the clamp, but I fear there is a loss of tension there.

If nothing else it seems like a terrible design flaw. More experienced stringers probably wouldn’t flinch, but it was the first time I’ve run into a tie-off that snug to the main string. Is this common to a lot of racquets out there. Any advice or tricks in dealing with a snug tie-off?
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
[1] Please don't attach a pdf file the way you did. It is not an image.
[2] There is plenty of room there for Pro, Parnell and even a DHH. Most of the Triads tie their crosses off at 11T. I have considered this not to be an issue.
[3] The pdf says you can do this frame bottom up. If you had done that, then you would not have any issue.
[4] You can also do this frame with an ATW and tie off at the top or bottom depending on which ATW you select.
 

kabrac

Semi-Pro
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I’m not the most experienced stringer , but strung this racquet yesterday and actually had a few expletives slip out when I got to the final tie-off on the crosses. The cross tie-off is at 11 Throat. There was barely enough room to pass the string through and loop it around for the tie-off. It was frustrating to say the least and I didn’t feel like I got the knot cinched up close enough to the grommet because there just was no room. It fell into place when I released the clamp, but I fear there is a loss of tension there.

If nothing else it seems like a terrible design flaw. More experienced stringers probably wouldn’t flinch, but it was the first time I’ve run into a tie-off that snug to the main string. Is this common to a lot of racquets out there. Any advice or tricks in dealing with a snug tie-off?
What kind of frame? Name? Pictures?

Do ATW pattern or enlarge another grommet hole and make your own tie off.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
its all part of the learning process of stringing
smaller knots
starting first-cross differently next time
choosing alternative patterns "atw"
and a few other options are available to overcome this issue
make it a personal note for yourself, to look for, next time..
btw, the small extra length of string thats worrying you about tension loss, is very, very minimal to the overall tension of the racquet, no big issue, it seems more than it is.. but for better practice, do try to avoid next time..
ive done what you described and it bothered me, even though it did not affect the racquet tension to feel bad..
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
If you string your crosses by first going under the outside main you will have enough room to tie any knot you want. How about the double blocked hole 7T? Both of those issues are avoided if you string it with an ATW pattern.

EDIT: Stringing 2 piece and tying off at 11T (especially with a stiff poly) makes for a loose bottom cross, because it is hard to get all the slack string tightened up while tying the knot.
 
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am1899

Hall of Fame
Just another thought. I’ve done this on many Wilson racquets over the years (assuming 2pc is used):

Tie the mains off on the 7th main instead of the 6th. Generally I haven’t found it necessary to widen that 7th main grommet - just cutting the string at a sharp angle and carefully pushing it through with pliers usually does the job.

Tie your top cross off where the mfg recommends. When you get to the bottom cross, tie that off on the 6th main.

This strategy eliminates the limited space problem tying off at 11t. It also reduces the length of string on the outside of the frame going to your 2 main tie offs and the bottom cross tie off.

As I said I don’t recall if I’ve done the above on this exact racquet, but I’ve done it on a lot of Wilson frames in particular over the years, and it usually works a treat.
 
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