CURES for tennis elbow

[Muscles]

Funny. I've had my share of problems (mostly shoulder, back; also age-related, chronic SI joint issues that have nothing to do with tennis) but I haven't had elbow problems of any significance in decades. When I did have problems, I fixed it by fixing my technique on the backhand and it's never recurred. I think the biggest elbow killer for single handers is leading with the elbow. Keeping the elbow pointed the right direction through the stroke completely fixed it.

 

[Robbnc]

I’m sure the solutions everyone has mentioned help, but there only one thing that helped me get rid of 2.5 yrs of TE.
It’s not acupuncture, flexbar, ultrasound, therabands....
It’s what Novak just had as a ‘minor medical procedure and what Rafa has repeatedly had on his knees....
It’s called PRP
When all else fails get a PRP injection

I wouldn't even wait that long. If it's available and you can afford it just do it and get back to playing tennis. I wrote a long thread on here about 10 years after I had PRP. I haven't missed a day of tennis for elbow problems since then.

 

[Robbnc]

I’m sure the solutions everyone has mentioned help, but there only one thing that helped me get rid of 2.5 yrs of TE.
It’s not acupuncture, flexbar, ultrasound, therabands....
It’s what Novak just had as a ‘minor medical procedure and what Rafa has repeatedly had on his knees....
It’s called PRP
When all else fails get a PRP injection

I wouldn't even wait that long. If it's available and you can afford it just do it and get back to playing tennis. I wrote a long thread on here about 10 years after I had PRP. I haven't missed a day of tennis for elbow problems since then.

 

[Robbnc]

I’m sure the solutions everyone has mentioned help, but there only one thing that helped me get rid of 2.5 yrs of TE.
It’s not acupuncture, flexbar, ultrasound, therabands....
It’s what Novak just had as a ‘minor medical procedure and what Rafa has repeatedly had on his knees....
It’s called PRP
When all else fails get a PRP injection

I wouldn't even wait that long. If it's available and you can afford it just do it and get back to playing tennis. I wrote a long thread on here about 10 years after I had PRP. I haven't missed a day of tennis for elbow problems since then.

 

[Dartagnan64]

I wouldn't even wait that long. If it's available and you can afford it just do it and get back to playing tennis. I wrote a long thread on here about 10 years after I had PRP. I haven't missed a day of tennis for elbow problems since then.

Admittedly there is evidence that PRP is better than corticosteroids but no better than placebo injections (saline) for tennis elbow.

Too bad it cost $300 for an injection that's no better than salt water.

This is one of those weird ideas where someone thought, "Hey if some platelets are useful for healing, then a whole bunch of them must be better!" A thought process that rarely works out in medicine. Homeostasis is a fine balance.

 

[TypeRx]

What I don't get about PRP is that is still takes weeks-months to recover. I isn't like 1 PRP injection and you are playing back to back tourneys with no pain later that week. Normal TE/GE takes a couple months to recover from, and sometimes that recovery comes from nothing much more than time. That seems like a major confounder and makes me question what incremental benefit PRP actually provides.

I wish there was an "easy" solution to tendonitis...the reality is these damn things just take a long time to heal once inflamed or damaged.

 

[scotus]

Admittedly there is evidence that PRP is better than corticosteroids but no better than placebo injections (saline) for tennis elbow.

Too bad it cost $300 for an injection that's no better than salt water.

This is one of those weird ideas where someone thought, "Hey if some platelets are useful for healing, then a whole bunch of them must be better!" A thought process that rarely works out in medicine. Homeostasis is a fine balance.

Wow, the PRP cost must have gone down quite a bit. When I checked a couple if years ago, the cheapest in this area was over $700.

 

[TypeRx]

Wow, the PRP cost must have gone down quite a bit. When I checked a couple if years ago, the cheapest in this area was over $700.

It is generally an un-reimbursed procedure so costs will be all over the board (geographically and by doctor). I bet $300 is as the absolute low end with well marketed docs charging up to $1500 per session. Also, it depends what they do in terms of local anesthesia or not, how much local trauma they induce, if at all, how many PRP injections per session, etc. Bottom line, you have to figure you will spend at least $1000-$3000 for a full treatment course. So, you better be confident it will yield results....

 

[scotus]

It is generally an un-reimbursed procedure so costs will be all over the board (geographically and by doctor). I bet $300 is as the absolute low end with well marketed docs charging up to $1500 per session. Also, it depends what they do in terms of local anesthesia or not, how much local trauma they induce, if at all, how many PRP injections per session, etc. Bottom line, you have to figure you will spend at least $1000-$3000 for a full treatment course. So, you better be confident it will yield results....

I myself had excellent results.

 

[eugenius]

Admittedly there is evidence that PRP is better than corticosteroids but no better than placebo injections (saline) for tennis elbow.

Too bad it cost $300 for an injection that's no better than salt water.

This is one of those weird ideas where someone thought, "Hey if some platelets are useful for healing, then a whole bunch of them must be better!" A thought process that rarely works out in medicine. Homeostasis is a fine balance.[/QUO


The issue of poor blood supply to tendons has been well documented....
So prp, which is the concentrated growth factor containing concentrate from centrifuging the blood, has a much better chance of actually helping the healing.
THe fact that anyone would NOT want a Prp injection if they have chronic TE is more surprising to me than the time it takes to work
Tendons take long to heal , esp if you have an intrasubstance tear.
Ps I play with poly now , without any issues
Brave....yes; stupid... yes...;but I recently got TE in my left elbow from gymming..., my right elbow is still !!!!
That after 2.5 yrs of TE
I think I’m converted...

 

[chunlimeyers]

Nope, your all mostly right, but as usual ENTIRELY WRONG!!! haha! TE is simply KNOTS in your FOREARM(sometimes upper arm, but more rare...)
I was over rotating trying to pretend to be Stan for 40 min, and surely these KNOTS were there just DYING to give me "Tennis Elbow".. But, the "elbow" has nothing to do with it and is the innocent bystander(or pain taker here).

So, what u need to do is a)find all your knots(I had a couple, one major one), push very hard to slight or more pain, rotate them out counter clockwise, and yes, someone else mentioned, THEN do some cross friction massage to further build back LENGTH of the muscles that are knotted up.

If you human doctors could have figured this out for me already it would have took 3 DAYS vs ALL SUMMER(3 mos) to fix.

The "Elbow pain" is what is called "Referred pain".. It is just now your muscles are in spasm and knotted up, thus shortening them, and pulling on weakest link.. Weakest link=Elbow.(this is why nothing works and only is a partial fix, after maybe 6 mos, a year, longer?.. these knots may just "relax" if you do nothing long enough, but who the f wants to wait that long yo! Not me!(also why humans can say "this worked in 6 mos., this worked in a yr.", no, no it didn't. haha)

Their was one dude on your planet on god(Utube) that understood this and figured this out for me(sorry, just too lazy to look him up). That unroller thingy might work just because it might slightly help unknot some of your knots. But, save your money for that, the expensive "PRP" injections, and simply send it to ME, via PAYPAL!
Your Welcome! haha

 

[BHud]

Thera Band...works like a charm!

 

[Anton]

1. Rest, avoid anything that aggravates: tennis, typing, painting, using a screwdriver, I even bought an electric toothbrush to help.
2. Wear an arm brace for anything you can't avoid.
3. Stretch and massage the forearm, upper arm, shoudlers, back and chest.
4. Strengthen, not just the forearm but upper arm and shoulders back and chest.
5. Start to play tennis again with a heavy flexy racquet with multifilament or gut. (I have found flex to be more important than recoil weight)
6. String as low as you can.
7. Avoid playing in the cold. Compression arm sleves can help to keep muscles warm.
8. Stretch before and after playing. Use cold or hot/cold therapy after playing - even if there is no pain
9. Continue to strengthen
10. If you want to play with poly, start with Poly mains multi/gut crosses for a month at least before trying full poly.
11. If pain re-occurs, revert to step 1 and progress again.

Good list but natural gut mains with poly cross is the way to play with most of poly's advantages in full comfort.

 

[1990's Graphite]

Thera Band...works like a charm!

Got any links to how to use them like youtube vids? there is one with heaps of views but apparently wrong methods are demonstrated

 

[TypeRx]

These are the exercises I use for golfer's elbow. Note that this involves the medial epicondyle and related tendons, not the lateral involved in TE. But still, these 3 exercises I find helpful.

 

[1990's Graphite]

These are the exercises I use for golfer's elbow. Note that this involves the medial epicondyle and related tendons, not the lateral involved in TE. But still, these 3 exercises I find helpful.

Great thanks

 

[eugenius]

Eeeeee....chunlimeyers, your medical knowledge is stunning!
And so humble whilst spewing non medical nonsense.
Knots in muscles? Lol
You don’t get knots in muscles , only spasms, tears or scar tissue.
Since I am a medical dr, you’ll have to excuse me for taking your solution with a pince of salt !
Referred pain?
The least vascular part of the muscle / tendon is where it attaches to bone..., so it’s not referred to the elbow ..., it’s situated right friggin next to the elbow ...
Referred pain would be to somewhere else within the same dermatome nerve supply!!!
God ....
At least do some reading before misleading people with mumbo jumbo.
Variously things work for various people in managing TE....
PRP works for some.
Massaging “knots” helps with loosening tightness/ scar tissue in muscles, and can help healing and preventing Re injury in muscles .... but will NOT heal Established TE, as this is a degeneration of the Tendon!

 

[chunlimeyers]

Eugenius, what a perfect OPPOSITE NAME! HAHA!.. But, I am going to try to be nice here. Just try what I said AND THEN when it works for you, come back and report about all my 'mumbo jumbo'..

It's simple knots dude, but u will go on and ignore me like the last 4 threads past me, and, well, that's "OK".. I was just trying to help(and yes, a little more confident of the rest because i KNOW I'M RIGHT!) Why?.. Because that is all i did and literally it was fixed within 2 weeks!(struggled all summer trying everything else which didn't work at all)....

Actual doctors rarely know JACK about what is happening, and if u are indeed a "doctor", that is just par for the course man.

Good luck to everyone who is going to TRY my solution, because it WORKS AND IS THE PROBLEM!(oh yeah, of course that tendon is going to be sore, but its because the muscles have knotted, and theirs CONSTANT PULLING on them.)

So, believe "the genius" or just believe me, a dude that tried various crap that didn't work, and solved it nearly overnight with the proper technique.

If this hater ensues to buck my post, I may get motivated enough to show the simple 4 min. YouTube video that explains how to get out knots so everyone else interested in a quick, easy, real solution can try. Good luck.

OK, never mind, it took me like 20 seconds to search and find it! haha!!(haven't seen this video in quite a while, but it was this stretch COMBINED with working out one major, and a couple minor knots in the middle of my forearm, worked for me...)

 

[TypeRx]

I think by "knots" you are referring to myofascial trigger points. And yes, deep massage of these definitely can help "release" some of the acute pain. I've used lacrosse balls to achieve this and earlier in the thread we saw a medieval-looking contraption that I believe does this along the length of the arm. In the end, I don't think any but the mildest cases of TE/GE will resolve in a few days with just trigger point massage...

But, since you are convinced you have the quick cure, please do find the 4 minute YouTube video and post here so that we can all resolve our TE/GE once and for all.

 

[chunlimeyers]

Yeah, sorry TypeRx, thanks for backing me up, I edited my last post and its right above your post now. (You have to also use some form of trigger point therapy also, PLUS that video,(he really explains what is happening) was the key for me(if not, like everyone else, i was focusing on the WRONG SPOT to find my real source that was CAUSING the pain/problem) Thanks again.

p.s. Finding the trigger points(knots), whatever u want to call them, I used my thumb and yes it was/is painful to get them out(tons o videos on Youtube) about how to work out trigger points.

 

[Shroud]

I think by "knots" you are referring to myofascial trigger points. And yes, deep massage of these definitely can help "release" some of the acute pain. I've used lacrosse balls to achieve this and earlier in the thread we saw a medieval-looking contraption that I believe does this along the length of the arm. In the end, I don't think any but the mildest cases of TE/GE will resolve in a few days with just trigger point massage...

But, since you are convinced you have the quick cure, please do find the 4 minute YouTube video and post here so that we can all resolve our TE/GE once and for all.

I bought a baseball and rolling pin for this very purpose

 

[graycrait]

I tried the Flexbars, all of them, I gave them away. Here is what I find successful:

 

[TypeRx]

I tried the Therabands, all of them, I gave them away. Here is what I find successful:

A-ha! That was the medieval device I mentioned...the Rolfex. That seems like it would give a very effective trigger point massage on the forearm and triceps. Does it work well? Do you use it regularly or only when "injured"?

 

[graycrait]

Do you use it regularly or only when "injured"?

at 63 I am always injured playing with the kids. It is really hard for me to find guys my age who like to hit singles. These are my everyday tools. Note the Prince Classic Graphite 107. However, the PCG 107 has, at least temporarily, been supplanted by the PCG 100 strung with Zyex fullbed at 59lbs. I feel comfortable hitting with small school D1 players with the PCG100 strung wih Zyex.

If I had only 1 device it would be the Prince racket. However, the massage "ball" and the vibrator are really effective. Everyone needs at least the dumbbell too.

 

[TypeRx]

If I had only 1 device it would be the Prince racket. However, the massage "ball" and the vibrator are really effective. Everyone needs at least the dumbbell too.

Okay, so the Rolflex is non-essential then?


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[graycrait]

I think the Rolflex works really good at grinding the trigger points, but the vibrator, dumbbell on a rope, and small roller can do everything necessary. I typically use the Rolflex, vibrator and hard ball massager, then might do some dumbbell stuff, rubber bands, etc. But always use the Rolflex, vibrator and hard ball.

 

[ramos77]

I went to see a osteopath, he was awesome. changed raquets (more flex) and started using natural gut hybrids

Never had any pain since.

 

[eugenius]

Hey Dude!!!
Thanks for blowing your own trumpet....

Everyone knows that working out minor muscle strains/ injuries help to increase blood flow and reduce tension in the muscle.
Great for muscle injuries... and helpful to PREVENT TE if you do regularly , like I do too, before and after matches.
Unfortunately, this might only help if you are at the very very early stages of muscle injuries that might eventually lead to TE.
Once the muscle has had repeated damage and tightened for an extended time, this will put more strain on the tendon and it’s attachment to the bone, leading to microtears and degeneration and TE.
When this happens , you can massage your trigger points till the cows come home.... and except for rest and allowing repair( with or without prp) is the only way forward ...
That is the medical facts, Dude

 

[chunlimeyers]

No prob, Man, will continue to! While you continue to BLOW! haha!.. Yup, I had TE.. I had pain, couldn't hit ball, it sucked. I guess if i continued to NOT have solution, as now others have come out and confirmed I'm right, and was dumb enough to CONTINUE TO DO DAMAGE, then yeah, u might want to STOP PLAYING for a while, so body can heal.

But, if you never address these trigger points your SCREWED!(Every time you step back out to play, their still there, and they will still damage your poor innocent bystander, the elbow).. You continue to deny I'm right, but I had TE, it WAS a year ago, I am now blasting the crap out of the ball, as per usual, and have 0, yes, 0 PAIN and 100pct recovered!

So yeah dude, take a refresher course in your "doctoring" or, simply back up to my post, read it again, and call me "Doctor" from now on out.

The more you blast back at something that is fundamentally simple to understand, the less creditable you are looking to all. Sorry to ruffle your feathers, but hey, who really cares if people can finally avoid the 'Take 2 pain killers and call me in the morning' vs a real solution that WORKS! haha

 

[eugenius]

Good for you mr Chunnilingusmeyers

Your cure is based on a worldwide sample of n-1
Science at its best!

Anyway, dr quack, go ahead and hit the crap out of the ball, and good luck with your so called TE...
We’ll take your word for it, since well, you say so
Read your post again?
Thanks ,I’ve read enough!lol
Anyway.... prp is well worth investigating for those with REAL TE, esp those that are chronic and don’t respond to other treatments
Enough of arguing with cretins....

 

[chunlimeyers]

Oh, I think PRP can also work. But only after trigger points are dealt with and muscles massaged out/lengthened back to normal. I also think why waste the $, but yeah PRP would help speed healing, that's a fact as your sending more blood to injury.

But the fact you just argued against my solution without even testing it first? That's the problem. I hope in the future u are more of a scientist and try things out before lashing at someone just trying to help. Good luck.

 

[Dartagnan64]

Oh, I think PRP can also work. But only after trigger points are dealt with and muscles massaged out/lengthened back to normal. I also think why waste the $, but yeah PRP would help speed healing, that's a fact as your sending more blood to injury.

But the fact you just argued against my solution without even testing it first? That's the problem. I hope in the future u are more of a scientist and try things out before lashing at someone just trying to help. Good luck.

PRP is just putting a bunch of platelets on an injury. The only thing that sends more blood to the injury is the actual needling of the tissue during the injection. Which is why in controlled studies comparing PRP to saline injections in TE, there was no difference in outcome. You rail against someone for not being a scientist but then claim something which has been tested and failed as being able to speed healing of TE.

A true scientist knows that "trying something themselves" is unable to prove anything since it suffers from bias and placebo effect. It's only reasonable for hypothesis building. A true scientist also knows that association doesn't mean causation and scientific plausibility is a very important in deciding whether an association is likely causative. The plausibility of your "knot" theory is pretty low since we physiologically know that muscles don't form "knots". They can be in various levels of contraction, which certainly can put traction on a degenerative tendon and working this contractile state out is an important part of recovery. But there are no knots per se.

 

[n8dawg6]

PRP is just putting a bunch of platelets on an injury. The only thing that sends more blood to the injury is the actual needling of the tissue during the injection. Which is why in controlled studies comparing PRP to saline injections in TE, there was no difference in outcome. You rail against someone for not being a scientist but then claim something which has been tested and failed as being able to speed healing of TE.

A true scientist knows that "trying something themselves" is unable to prove anything since it suffers from bias and placebo effect. It's only reasonable for hypothesis building. A true scientist also knows that association doesn't mean causation and scientific plausibility is a very important in deciding whether an association is likely causative. The plausibility of your "knot" theory is pretty low since we physiologically know that muscles don't form "knots". They can be in various levels of contraction, which certainly can put traction on a degenerative tendon and working this contractile state out is an important part of recovery. But there are no knots per se.

youre one of those “western medicine” practitioners, aintcha?

 

[eugenius]

PRP varies in efficacy for various reasons incl inate platelet and wcc as well as differences in preparation and injection technique .
Even though the studies vary in power and effect , this might be one of the reasons .
Injecting saline into a tendon is unlikely to bring a huge influx of blood as the area is already relatively low in vascularity.

Anyway, if it does cause some bleeding , it will be no more that what a steroid injection would cause, and that doesn’t work all that well.....

Placebo did not work for me with flex bar, physiotherapy, long sessions of acupuncture, regular ultrasound sessions, 6 mths of rest, so by the time I got to PRP, my expectations were pretty low.
If it was placebo, I’m happy that something worked , rather than nothing ....

 

[chunlimeyers]

Ok, last post... Yins are 100pct IDIOTS!.. U won't try my solution, I'm 100pct HEALED, but really, really, REALLY thought 4x before posting anything and now i KNOW WHY!

I now WON'T offer any more help, because of the IDIOTS that WON'T TRY anything FIRST, and then cry about their FAILINGS!

Man you guys SUCK on the internet, your the problem with forums! So yeah, keep on "theorizing" why I am wrong, instead of simply trying it and being free of pain and getting back into the game suckers!

For everyone else who realize these dudes are trolls, and nothing else has worked, just try this yourself and enjoy tennis again. Peace.

 

[BHud]

Got any links to how to use them like youtube vids? there is one with heaps of views but apparently wrong methods are demonstrated

...plenty of instructions on youtube.

 

[Dartagnan64]

PRP varies in efficacy for various reasons incl inate platelet and wcc as well as differences in preparation and injection technique .
Even though the studies vary in power and effect , this might be one of the reasons .
Injecting saline into a tendon is unlikely to bring a huge influx of blood as the area is already relatively low in vascularity.

Anyway, if it does cause some bleeding , it will be no more that what a steroid injection would cause, and that doesn’t work all that well.....

Placebo did not work for me with flex bar, physiotherapy, long sessions of acupuncture, regular ultrasound sessions, 6 mths of rest, so by the time I got to PRP, my expectations were pretty low.
If it was placebo, I’m happy that something worked , rather than nothing ....

But why would a bunch of platelets bring in more blood flow than saline? That is the key problem with PRP. The science is a bit dodgy and the outcomes just haven't been documented when compared with proper controls. But hey, for virtually every treatment out there, there is someone that will tout it as the thing that fixed them. I don't doubt they are better. I just doubt the scientific validity of n=1 anecdotes. Too much bias and confounders.

And steroids would do the opposite, by being anti-inflammatory, they would bring in less blood flow. Hence why they show inferior results to everything else. Good for discomfort, bad for healing.

 

[eugenius]

Prp IS blood.
Just centrifuged and concentrated....
Big difference between that and injecting anything else.
You don’t need to cause bleeding by injecting prp and you’re not needing blood to “ come in”, as you’ve injected the concentrated blood with the fibroblast stimulating factors in it.
Prp is not a n-1 type of study.... the only problem is differing techniques and preparation
Anyway..... if nothing helps you and you have nothing to lose by trying it, like I was, then you generally don’t care if it works or not... you’ll just try anything to be able to play again

 

[1990's Graphite]

Eugenius, what a perfect OPPOSITE NAME! HAHA!.. But, I am going to try to be nice here. Just try what I said AND THEN when it works for you, come back and report about all my 'mumbo jumbo'..

It's simple knots dude, but u will go on and ignore me like the last 4 threads past me, and, well, that's "OK".. I was just trying to help(and yes, a little more confident of the rest because i KNOW I'M RIGHT!) Why?.. Because that is all i did and literally it was fixed within 2 weeks!(struggled all summer trying everything else which didn't work at all)....

Actual doctors rarely know JACK about what is happening, and if u are indeed a "doctor", that is just par for the course man.

Good luck to everyone who is going to TRY my solution, because it WORKS AND IS THE PROBLEM!(oh yeah, of course that tendon is going to be sore, but its because the muscles have knotted, and theirs CONSTANT PULLING on them.)

So, believe "the genius" or just believe me, a dude that tried various crap that didn't work, and solved it nearly overnight with the proper technique.

If this hater ensues to buck my post, I may get motivated enough to show the simple 4 min. YouTube video that explains how to get out knots so everyone else interested in a quick, easy, real solution can try. Good luck.

OK, never mind, it took me like 20 seconds to search and find it! haha!!(haven't seen this video in quite a while, but it was this stretch COMBINED with working out one major, and a couple minor knots in the middle of my forearm, worked for me...)

This actually works

 

[tmc5005]

Wow this is a smart group I see 0% recommend a light racquet and 33% a heavier flexible players racquets I would look at my top 10 list of arm elbow friendly racquets which include:
Yonex EZone DR 98
HEAD XT Graphene Prestige MP
PACIFIC BXT X Tour Pro 97
Wilson Ultra Tour
Volkl Vsense 10 325g
Pro Kennex Q+ Tour Pro
Pro Kennex KI5 320
Head Graphene Touch Speed Pro
Wilson Countervale Blade 98 18×20
Dunlop Srixon Rev CX 2.0 Tour

 

[tmc5005]

Wow this is a smart group I see 0% recommend a light racquet and 33% a heavier flexible players racquets I would look at my top 10 list of arm elbow friendly racquets which include:
Yonex EZone DR 98
HEAD XT Graphene Prestige MP
PACIFIC BXT X Tour Pro 97
Wilson Ultra Tour
Volkl Vsense 10 325g
Pro Kennex Q+ Tour Pro
Pro Kennex KI5 320
Head Graphene Touch Speed Pro
Wilson Countervale Blade 98 18×20
Dunlop Srixon Rev CX 2.0 Tour

 

[tmc5005]

Wow this is a smart group I see 0% recommend a light racquet and 33% a heavier flexible players racquets I would look at my top 10 list of arm elbow friendly racquets which include:
Yonex EZone DR 98
HEAD XT Graphene Prestige MP
PACIFIC BXT X Tour Pro 97
Wilson Ultra Tour
Volkl Vsense 10 325g
Pro Kennex Q+ Tour Pro
Pro Kennex KI5 320
Head Graphene Touch Speed Pro
Wilson Countervale Blade 98 18×20
Dunlop Srixon Rev CX 2.0 Tour

 

[tmc5005]

Wow this is a smart group I see 0% recommend a light racquet and 33% a heavier flexible players racquets I would look at my top 10 list of arm elbow friendly racquets which include:
Yonex EZone DR 98

HEAD XT Graphene Prestige MP

PACIFIC BXT X Tour Pro 97

Wilson Ultra Tour

Volkl Vsense 10 325g

Pro Kennex Q+ Tour Pro

Pro Kennex KI5 320

Head Graphene Touch Speed Pro

Wilson Countervale Blade 98 18×20

Dunlop Srixon Rev CX 2.0 Tour ​

 

[tmc5005]

Wow this is a smart group I see 0% recommend a light racquet and 33% a heavier flexible players racquets I would look at my top 10 list of arm elbow friendly racquets which include:
Yonex EZone DR 98

HEAD XT Graphene Prestige MP

PACIFIC BXT X Tour Pro 97

Wilson Ultra Tour

Volkl Vsense 10 325g

Pro Kennex Q+ Tour Pro

Pro Kennex KI5 320

Head Graphene Touch Speed Pro

Wilson Countervale Blade 98 18×20

Dunlop Srixon Rev CX 2.0 Tour ​

 

[tmc5005]

Wow this is a smart group I see 0% recommend a light racquet and 33% a heavier flexible players racquets I would look at my top 10 list of arm elbow friendly racquets which include:
Yonex EZone DR 98

HEAD XT Graphene Prestige MP

PACIFIC BXT X Tour Pro 97

Wilson Ultra Tour

Volkl Vsense 10 325g

Pro Kennex Q+ Tour Pro

Pro Kennex KI5 320

Head Graphene Touch Speed Pro

Wilson Countervale Blade 98 18×20

Dunlop Srixon Rev CX 2.0 Tour ​

 

[tmc5005]

Wow this is a smart group I see 0% recommend a light racquet and 33% a heavier flexible players racquets I would look at my top 10 list of arm elbow friendly racquets which include:
Yonex EZone DR 98

HEAD XT Graphene Prestige MP

PACIFIC BXT X Tour Pro 97

Wilson Ultra Tour

Volkl Vsense 10 325g

Pro Kennex Q+ Tour Pro

Pro Kennex KI5 320

Head Graphene Touch Speed Pro

Wilson Countervale Blade 98 18×20

Dunlop Srixon Rev CX 2.0 Tour ​

 

[anhboa2]

Seriously you have missed the “Forgiving Racket”, need not to be heavy.

In fact, Volkl V1 Pro or Classic is rated very stiff but they cured 2-3 elbows among us. They all played very forgiving with large sweetspot.

 

[Dartagnan64]

Prp IS blood.
Just centrifuged and concentrated....
Big difference between that and injecting anything else.
You don’t need to cause bleeding by injecting prp and you’re not needing blood to “ come in”, as you’ve injected the concentrated blood with the fibroblast stimulating factors in it.
Prp is not a n-1 type of study.... the only problem is differing techniques and preparation
Anyway..... if nothing helps you and you have nothing to lose by trying it, like I was, then you generally don’t care if it works or not... you’ll just try anything to be able to play again

PRP is concentrated platelets and some plasma. When we talk about needing blood for healing its more about blood flow carrying oxygen and nutrients to the tissue. Yes PRP will have some healing nutrients in it but they will be rapidly metabolized. It's far more important to stimulate blood flow to the tissue (that's what inflammation does in a reaction to heal tissues). That's why things like dry needling, prolotherapy, PRP and placebo saline injections all seem to have the same efficacy. They do the same sort of thing which is stimulate the tissue to vascularize and bring in blood flow and healing factors. The PRP carries a few more healing factors initially, but it's still more important to get a continuous supply.

Again the evidence out there in no way suggests that PRP is superior to placebo for TE. It's hard to refute the evidence so far. I'd suggest someone go the cheaper dry needling/prolotherapy route before ramping up to pricey PRP injections first.

Personally I fixed TE with a Prince phantom and Origin strings so there's always that.

 

[scotus]

PRP is concentrated platelets and some plasma. When we talk about needing blood for healing its more about blood flow carrying oxygen and nutrients to the tissue. Yes PRP will have some healing nutrients in it but they will be rapidly metabolized. It's far more important to stimulate blood flow to the tissue (that's what inflammation does in a reaction to heal tissues). That's why things like dry needling, prolotherapy, PRP and placebo saline injections all seem to have the same efficacy. They do the same sort of thing which is stimulate the tissue to vascularize and bring in blood flow and healing factors. The PRP carries a few more healing factors initially, but it's still more important to get a continuous supply.

Again the evidence out there in no way suggests that PRP is superior to placebo for TE. It's hard to refute the evidence so far. I'd suggest someone go the cheaper dry needling/prolotherapy route before ramping up to pricey PRP injections first.

Personally I fixed TE with a Prince phantom and Origin strings so there's always that.

I have tried whole-blood Prolotherapy 3 times, which did not work.

PRP worked, though. The first injection decreased the pain so significantly in two days that I got the second injection in 2 weeks.

 

[Nick777]

The best treatment for me is shock wave, exercises, with elastic bans for starters, rest and friendly raquet and strings, offcourse good technique also

 

[srwaldr]

I've found the secret to tennis elbow after all these years.. Guaranteed to work day 1. No waiting, no resting, no twisting bars, injections, or ANYTHING. It truly is a miracle cure.

It's called playing with your opposite hand. Now about that left handed kick serve.... blah...