Current Tennis Abstract Elo Ratings

[James P]

Shocking to me, but Carlos Alcaraz has now moved into 4th place, yes ahead of Nadal...

Rank	Name	Age	Overall Elo	Hard Raw	Clay Raw	Grass Raw	Hard Elo	Clay Elo	Grass Elo	Peak Elo Match	Peak Elo Age	Peak Elo
1​	Novak Djokovic​	34.5​	2185.6​	2068.6​	2016.3​	1942.4​	2127.1​	2101.0​	2064.0​	2016 Miami F​	28.8​	2470.0​
2​	Daniil Medvedev​	25.9​	2173.6​	2098.1​	1714.1​	1723.4​	2135.9​	1943.9​	1948.5​	2022 Australian Open SF​	25.9​	2189.1​
3​	Alexander Zverev​	24.8​	2119.2​	2030.8​	1999.1​	1671.4​	2075.0​	2059.2​	1895.3​	2022 Atp Cup RR​	24.7​	2158.4​
4​	Carlos Alcaraz​	18.8​	2066.0​	1886.7​	1925.0​	1441.4​	1976.3​	1995.5​	1753.7​	2022 Rio de Janeiro F​	18.8​	2066.0​
5​	Rafael Nadal​	35.6​	2054.6​	1896.8​	1951.2​	1500.0​	1975.7​	2002.9​	1777.3​	2009 Madrid SF​	22.9​	2370.0​
6​	Roger Federer​	39.9​	2043.0​	1936.7​	1749.6​	1813.4​	1989.9​	1896.3​	1928.2​	2007 Dubai F​	25.6​	2382.0​
7​	Stefanos Tsitsipas​	23.5​	2035.0​	1909.0​	2005.5​	1543.4​	1972.0​	2020.3​	1789.2​	2021 Roland Garros SF​	22.8​	2133.0​
8​	Casper Ruud​	23.1​	2030.1​	1847.3​	1981.1​	1465.9​	1938.7​	2005.6​	1748.0​	2021 Tour Finals RR​	22.9​	2032.4​
9​	Felix Auger Aliassime​	21.5​	2020.5​	1932.8​	1681.9​	1784.0​	1976.6​	1851.2​	1902.2​	2022 Marseille SF​	21.5​	2035.7​
10​	Matteo Berrettini​	25.8​	2013.9​	1837.0​	1894.7​	1853.0​	1925.4​	1954.3​	1933.4​	2021 Wimbledon SF​	25.2​	2045.7​
11​	Jannik Sinner​	20.4​	2012.2​	1935.4​	1807.0​	1312.8​	1973.8​	1909.6​	1662.5​	2022 Australian Open R16​	20.4​	2026.9​
12​	Dominic Thiem​	27.7​	2002.5​	1935.6​	1936.2​	1618.3​	1969.1​	1969.4​	1810.4​	2016 Halle R16​	22.8​	2123.2​
13​	Andrey Rublev​	24.3​	1985.3​	1898.6​	1827.4​	1652.8​	1942.0​	1906.4​	1819.0​	2021 Monte Carlo SF​	23.5​	2105.7​
14​	Cameron Norrie​	26.5​	1951.9​	1830.3​	1810.7​	1575.1​	1891.1​	1881.3​	1763.5​	2021 Vienna R32​	26.2​	1987.9​
15​	Jenson Brooksby​	21.3​	1942.2​	1849.2​	1661.7​	1655.9​	1895.7​	1801.9​	1799.1​	2022 Columbus CH QF​	21.2​	1974.5​

Discuss/Disgust

 

[Red Rick]

What can I say.

YE top 3 guaranteed

 

[UnforcedTerror]

Probably because Bull missed half of the past year? What's their formula?

I prefer UTS Elo ranking.

Rank	Name	Elo Rating
1 CH	Novak Djokovic	2411
2	Rafael Nadal	2390
3 CH	Daniil Medvedev	2319
4	Alexander Zverev	2272
5	Roger Federer	2253
6 CH	Matteo Berrettini	2170
7	Stefanos Tsitsipas	2160
8	Dominic Thiem	2136
9 CH	Casper Ruud	2132
10 CH	Felix Auger Aliassime	2117
11	Andrey Rublev	2107
12	Jannik Sinner	2101

 

[James P]

Probably because Bull missed half of the past year? What's their formula?

I prefer UTS Elo ranking.

Rank	Name	Elo Rating
1 CH	Novak Djokovic	2411
2	Rafael Nadal	2390
3 CH	Daniil Medvedev	2319
4	Alexander Zverev	2272
5	Roger Federer	2253
6 CH	Matteo Berrettini	2170
7	Stefanos Tsitsipas	2160
8	Dominic Thiem	2136
9 CH	Casper Ruud	2132
10 CH	Felix Auger Aliassime	2117
11	Andrey Rublev	2107
12	Jannik Sinner	2101

It's the same with one major difference. UTS increases/decreases value of point swaps based on the event and round of play. IE, they rate a championship match at a major way higher than a 2nd round at a 250. TA has the same point swap no matter the event or round of play.

 

[James P]

Oh yeah, one other major difference is that TA rates all professional matches at all levels. UTS only rates matches at the ATP level.

I actually prefer TA, though. And the guy that runs it has done experiments with his Elo rating to see if he'd get better (predictive) results (such as the method used by UTS) and has decided the standard point swap is the best method.

 

[Chanwan]

Fed who hasn't played a match since god knows when is neck and neck with Rafa who just won a slam? Yeah, still not buying Elo

 

[James P]

Fed who hasn't played a match since god knows when is neck and neck with Rafa who just won a slam? Yeah, still not buying Elo

Just ignore Fed, obviously.

 

[Kralingen]

Brooksby is up to some very impressive things.

Alcaraz obviously has his entire career ahead of him but if you were going to choose a nascent career that could *maybe* one day challenge the Big 3, it would be his.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I prefer the slam count ranking:

Nadal 21
Djokovic 20
Federer 20
Sampras 14

 

[Aabye5]

Probably because Bull missed half of the past year? What's their formula?

I prefer UTS Elo ranking.

Rank	Name	Elo Rating
1 CH	Novak Djokovic	2411
2	Rafael Nadal	2390
3 CH	Daniil Medvedev	2319
4	Alexander Zverev	2272
5	Roger Federer	2253
6 CH	Matteo Berrettini	2170
7	Stefanos Tsitsipas	2160
8	Dominic Thiem	2136
9 CH	Casper Ruud	2132
10 CH	Felix Auger Aliassime	2117
11	Andrey Rublev	2107
12	Jannik Sinner	2101

Where's the link to this list and where is Alcaraz? (Clicking the player names just takes me to their profile)

 

[Aabye5]

Where's the link to this list and where is Alcaraz? (Clicking the player names just takes me to their profile)

Found it. He sits at no. 31 on that site, which doesn't reflect his new ranking.

 

[James P]

Found it. He sits at no. 31 on that site, which doesn't reflect his new ranking.

For whatever reason, they haven't added the Rio tournament in even though they added in the other three tournaments from last week, already. So yeah, the Elo isn't right. He had two good scalps that ought to have him moving up quite a bit.

 

[Jokervich]

10+ slams in any other era

 

[James P]

Found it. He sits at no. 31 on that site, which doesn't reflect his new ranking.

Actually, you can visit "Player Path" in the tournament itself (Link) and see what his rating will end up being which is 2035. That puts him at #18.

 

[NeutralFan]

Ask Zverev what will he prefer top 3 ELO or s slam ?

 

[spottishwood]

10+ slams in any other era

Idk why I keep seeing this comment everywhere on TTW.

 

[RaulRamirez]

Nice that Fed and Thiem are so high, but where are Tilden and Budge?

 

[T007]

Just ignore Fed, obviously.

But you can't