Custom Paint Job - Wilson Pro Staff 95

[jgun]

Hi guys, I'd like to share my Wilson Pro Staff 95 custom paint job. I have two of these racquets, so I decided to custom paint one. I know everything will be different but I really don't mind. If I don't like it i will hang it on the wall (and keep playing with the other one). If I like it I'll play with it. It is all just for fun .

Below I elaborated the process in detail. It is quite long but I did it with a hope that it could be informative to those who have never done it before and are thinking of doing the same. For those who are experienced with painting, if you think some of the steps could have been done better you are more than welcome to give suggestion. I welcome all criticism . This was the first time I ever did a painting job in my life. First time with spray paint. And certainly the first one on a racquet.

Racquet: Wilson Pro Staff 95
Spray paint color: Satin black
Project time: ~2 weeks (from the start until the time I could restring the racquet)
Equipment:
Safety:
- 1 x mask
- 1 x pair of gloves
- 1 x pair of goggles (when using paint stripper)
Prep/Painting:
- 1 x can of primer (spray)
- 1 x paint brush
- 1 x spray can (satin black in my case)
- 2 x 80 grit sand paper (~20x30cm)
- 1 x 180 grit sand paper (~20x30cm)
- 1 x 320 grit sand paper (~20x30cm)
- 1 x 400 grit sand paper (~20x30cm)
- 1 x roll of masking tape
- 1 x lint-free cloth
- 1 x small screw driver or 1 x small skewer

So here we go:
1. Took pic of original racquet paint (for memory)

2. Grommet off (mark them if you wish. I did. I just thought it would make it easier when I put them back on to their original position)

3. Weighed it (if you wish. I did it to know how much weight I would lose after stripping original paint)

4. Stripped the paint off (wear the mask, goggles & gloves)

• Covered grip with masking tape.
• Applied the paint stripper with the paint brush on the racquet.
• I followed the instruction on the can.
  
• I used 80 grit sand paper to remove the paint.
• Lots and lots of hard scrapping!!! The paint was very stubborn!
• It took me almost 6 hours to finish (a bit of rest in between scrapping of course).

5. Cleaned the racquet

• After stripping off the paint, under the water tap I washed the remaining paint stripper off.
• Cleaned the string holes with a small screw driver or a small skewer.
• Let the racquet dry properly. I gave the racquet a bit of a shake to remove excess water from the string holes and used the a piece of cloth to dry the racquet, then let it sit until it was properly dry.

6. Used sand paper

• Gradually from 180, 320 and finally 400 grit to prepare the racquet for primer application.
• When racquet was pretty smooth I stopped.
  
• Used the lint-free cloth to wipe off the dust in between and after final sanding.

7. Weighed it

• Lost 30 grams of paint!

8. Sprayed the primer.

• I used 2 layers of primer (I waited for an hour in between the layer even though the instruction said 15 minutes).
  
• Let it sit for 24 hours before paint application! (even though the instruction only said 90 minutes).

9. 1st paint application (I did 3 layers)

• 24 hour after primer application, I used 400 grit sand paper lightly to prepare the racquet for the paint application.
• Cleaned the dust off the racquet with the lint-free cloth.
• Applied the first layer of paint with the spray can!
• Distance of about 20-30cm from the racquet and I sprayed lightly.
• Let it sit for 1 hour.
  

---- My spray painting steps: ----

I laid the racquet horizontal about 0.5m from the floor, gripping the handle with stacks of bricks underneath and a brick on top.

First
Inside of racquet throat. Why inside of the throat first? Due to the small size of racquet throat, it was hard to spray from inside the throat (had i done it, it would have been too close and could have resulted in too much paint all at once).

So I needed to spray from outside the throat. And since I sprayed from outside the throat, there was 'spill' of spray onto the outside part of the throat. It was actually OK to have that 'spill' (explained in the next step).

Second
Both flat sides. One side, then flip it, then the other side.

Because of the 'spill' from the first step, I only needed to spray enough paint on the 'spilled' part of the flat sides to make approximately the same amount of coverage as the inside of the throat (to maintain consistency). Had I sprayed the sides of the racquet first then the inside of the throat, I would have sprayed more paint on the area around the inner throat, and hence the paint coverage would have become inconsistent.

Third
Beam side (grommet side) all around.

I sprayed beam side after the flat sides because when I sprayed the flat sides, there was 'spill' on the beam side due to the way the beam side is designed (kinda coming out a bit when you see the racquet flat on (the beam side is not 100% perpendicular to the flat side)). Thus, I only needed to spray enough to make the coverage consistent with the flat sides.

Had I sprayed the beam side first and then the flat sides, again due to the racquet design, I would have applied more paint on the beam side than on the flat sides (hence inconsistent coverage).

Fourth (last)
The inner hoop (inside the head).

Same concept, due to the racquet head design (the inner hoop is sorta coming out a bit or not 100% perpendicular to the flat side), when I sprayed the flat sides, the was some 'spill' onto the inner hoop, thus I only needed to spray enough paint to make it consistent with the flat sides.

10. 2nd paint application

• 1 hour after first paint application, I sanded it lightly with 400 grit sand paper to prepare for the 2nd layer of paint.
• After the second paint application, I let it dry for 2 hours. Why longer than the first one? It is just me being on the safe side now that I got 2 layers of paint on.

11. 3rd (final) paint application

• So 2 hours after the second spray, sanded it lightly with 400 grit sand paper to prepare for the 3rd (final) layer of paint.
• After this last spray, I let it dry for 6 hours. I guess I didn't have to wait for that long, but again, it is just me being on the safe side now I got more than 2 layers of paint on it. I wanted to make sure the paint dried and bonded properly.
  
• After 6 hours, I was happy with the result. Had I still not be satisfied, I would have gone for the 4th layer and so on.
• I let it sit for 1 week before putting grommet back on and restringing it!

At the end of the project I could see there was still a bit of inconsistency here and there but I don't mind them. It is really up to the person. I am pretty happy with it overall.

This is after final paint was dry (no grommet and string):

12. Weighed it (see much primer and paint added to the weight)

• Only 1 gram!
• Perhaps I should have added a couple more layers of spray paint. But I didn't bother. I would just add lead tapes on a couple of spots to make up for the lost weight.

13. After 1 week!

• Put grommet back on.
• Restrung the racquet (No paint flaking or cracking from clamping so that's good.. phew)

So there you go guys... thanks for reading this thread.. hopefully you guys enjoy it. I hope the new paint holds on the court... only time will tell

Cheers.

 

[Zoolander]

Holy moly! What a Magnum Octopus and only your second post! Impressive. Makes me feel inadequate ............

Couple of thoughts. Firstly, looks much better after than before, nice work! Secondly, have done it a few times and i skip the whole "stripping/sanding paint off" bit. As you said, lots of hard work. Although then i miss the best bit; dont you love the look of braided graphite? So much better than the hideous PJ's they often put over it!

 

[Surion]

Amazing effort, thanks for sharing.

I don't get why the original paint weighs 30 g more than the new one, but okay.
I've never liked the 2014 PJ, yours is pretty...clean, but looks so much better.

 

[jgun]

Holy moly! What a Magnum Octopus and only your second post! Impressive. Makes me feel inadequate ............

Couple of thoughts. Firstly, looks much better after than before, nice work! Secondly, have done it a few times and i skip the whole "stripping/sanding paint off" bit. As you said, lots of hard work. Although then i miss the best bit; dont you love the look of braided graphite? So much better than the hideous PJ's they often put over it!

Zoolander... thank you ... i will never ever ever gonna do it again ... ... once is enough just to experience it... and i certainly chose the hard way with the stripping/sanding part .. but you are right I also loooooove the braided graphite look... there is just something about it that is just ... cool

 

[SpinToWin]

You f***ing legend, I tip my fedora to thee.

 

[jgun]

Amazing effort, thanks for sharing.

I don't get, why the original paint weighs 30 g more than the new one, but okay.
I've never liked the 2014 PJ, yours is pretty...clean, but looks so much better.

Surion I was also really shocked that the original paint weighs 30 gr ... and the 2xprimer and 3xpaint only weighs 1 gr ... it puzzles me too.
I like the black better too, because I used to play with PS85. Always love the simplicity of it. Hence i did this project.
But trust me.. had i known it was going to be this hard, i wouldn't have started it in the first place. I was already half way, so i just had to finish it. I'm just glad it all came together okay.

 

[Surion]

Surion I was also really shocked that the original paint weighs 30 gr ... and the 2xprimer and 3xpaint only weighs 1 gr ... it puzzles me too.
I like the black better too, because I used to play with PS85. Always love the simplicity of it. Hence i did this project.
But trust me.. had i known it was going to be this hard, i wouldn't have started it in the first place. I was already half way, so i just had to finish it. I'm just glad it all came together okay.

Yea, two weeks seem like a lot of time just to get another PJ.

Here in germany we have a professional tuning company, who charges 95 euro for an all black painting.
I always thought that's super expensive, but after reading your post...it's cheap.

 

[jgun]

Yea, two weeks seem like a lot of time just to get another PJ.

Here in germany we have a professional tuning company, who charges 95 euro for an all black painting.
I always thought that's super expensive, but after reading your post...it's cheap.

The paint job itself only takes slightly less than 1 week. It is the waiting for restringing that takes another week. So total 2 weeks.
But Surion i would have paid 95 euros instead of having to go through what i did. That's a guarantee.

 

[Surion]

The paint job itself only takes slightly less than 1 week. It is the waiting for restringing that takes another week. So total 2 weeks.
But Surion i would have paid 95 euros instead of having to go through what i did. That's a guarantee.

Ah okay, thanks for clarifying.

Yea, I can absolutely see, why you'd pay that

But hey, enjoy your work, you've done it yourself and that's worth quite something.

 

[SpinToWin]

Yea, two weeks seem like a lot of time just to get another PJ.

Here in germany we have a professional tuning company, who charges 95 euro for an all black painting.
I always thought that's super expensive, but after reading your post...it's cheap.

There is such a service? Hmmm my Pro Staffs may need some new paint at some point... Where exactly is this service if I may ask?

 

[Surion]

There is such a service? Hmmm my Pro Staffs may need some new paint at some point... Where exactly is this service if I may ask?

They are called ring&roll.

You've probably heard of them.

Don't you like the PJ of the 97S?

The prices seem to start at 95 €, I guess more complicated PJs will cost more.

 

[SpinToWin]

They are called ring&roll.

You've probably heard of them.

Don't you like the PJ of the 97S?

The prices seem to start at 95 €, I guess more complicated PJs will cost more.

Nah I don't like the Pro Staff 95 PJ and those are keepers for me

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

If only I was as skilled... Awesome job man!

 

[CopolyX]

Nice job but you are almost done, I would suggest adding a nice letter. Addressed it to Federer. Tell him it was designed by you for him..

 

[Wilhelm]

Great effort! Now I just have one question: Does it play the same as before?

 

[4-string]

I too love my PS95s, but don't like the pj. Looks like a packet of cigarettes, and I quit smoking years ago. [emoji6]

Still, this is too much effort to even consider it. Well done though, it turned out fantastic. [emoji106]

 

[jgun]

You f***ing legend, I tip my fedora to thee.

Thank you SpinToWin. I think it all started with the craving of ps85. I love the feel and certainly the classic paint job of it. I used it for years but it got to the point where it was too heavy so i decided to swap to 95. Boy i missed the dark look of ps85, hence behind the reason i did this

 

[jgun]

If only I was as skilled... Awesome job man!

Chi Sin Lo, thanks man. What you gotta know is I am not skilled either. I just went for it. This was the first time I ever use spray paint in my life. I did mistakes and had to redo it 3 times before i got to this. 3 times from bare frame! same process all over! can you imagine?

I didn't explain all the mistakes here because it would have been too long and not necessary.
But hey pay a professional to do it for you. Save the headache and time that is much better spent on the tennis court

 

[jgun]

Nice job but you are almost done, I would suggest adding a nice letter. Addressed it to Federer. Tell him it was designed by you for him..

LOL CopolyX a friend of mine said exactly the same thing!

Okay here we go:

Dear Mr. Federer,
I wrote you a letterer
Use this PJ and it'll make your game betterer

..... sent!

It was kinda funny with the timing because i finished it just a few days before i found out Federer is gonna have a new racquet and it was all black PJ.

 

[BreakPoint]

Looks great, but man that's a lot of work.

Was it worth it in your opinion?

 

[Surion]

Looks great, but man that's a lot of work.

Was it worth it in your opinion?

Read the thread.

 

[BreakPoint]

Read the thread.

I did read the thread.

The OP first said he was happy with it but then said he wouldn't do it again. That's doesn't tell me if he thinks doing it this one time was worth it or not.

 

[jgun]

I did read the thread.

The OP first said he was happy with it but then said he wouldn't do it again. That's doesn't tell me if he thinks doing it this one time was worth it or not.

Hi BreakPoint, thanks man! ... I think i know what you mean

Am i happy it all turned out well? Very happy, man

Was it worth it in the end?

• For those who want to have a new paint job on the racquets: i guess it depends. If someone just wants a new paint job without all the hassle, then doing it probably will not be worth it. Give it to the professional. But for those who want to experience it, then it is worth it because if you are patient and you do it right in the end you will see the fruit of your labor.

• For me: Yes and no. But mostly yes! I guess this is the answer you are looking for. Why it is a No: i wanted to experience it BUT i probably wouldn't have started it if i had known it was going to take what it took to get the result. Mostly because all is new to me. The whole paint stripping, sanding, spray painting, all is new to me. Only in the middle of the process then i found out my lack of experience really made it hard for me to do it. But i was pretty patient.I didn't try to cut corner. I kept trying to do it right. Why it is a big Yes: because it is satisfying to see the hard work finally pays off!

Will I ever do it again? No. Once is enough.

Will i cherish this memory for years to come? Oh man yes i will

Part of the reason i share it is so that if someone wants to do it knowing that it will take all this hard work, then hopefully this thread can be of a help to that person.

I hope it answers your question

 

[jgun]

Great effort! Now I just have one question: Does it play the same as before?

Hi Wilhelm i haven't tried it out yet.
I live in Melbourne, Australia.
Winter here now and weather is just shocking. Strong wind and rainy almost every day.
I can't wait to try it once we get a good weather in the weekend.

Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk

 

[jgun]

I too love my PS95s, but don't like the pj. Looks like a packet of cigarettes, and I quit smoking years ago. [emoji6]

Still, this is too much effort to even consider it. Well done though, it turned out fantastic. [emoji106]

Thank you 4-string. Ps95 pj is just too crowded. Simple is better for me. It was a lot of effort i have to admit. Now it is just a matter of trying it out on the court. Everything is going to be sooo different[emoji16]

 

[BreakPoint]

Hi BreakPoint, thanks man! ... I think i know what you mean

Am i happy it all turned out well? Very happy, man

Was it worth it in the end?

• For those who want to have a new paint job on the racquets: i guess it depends. If someone just wants a new paint job without all the hassle, then doing it probably will not be worth it. Give it to the professional. But for those who want to experience it, then it is worth it because if you are patient and you do it right in the end you will see the fruit of your labor.

• For me: Yes and no. But mostly yes! I guess this is the answer you are looking for. Why it is a No: i wanted to experience it BUT i probably wouldn't have started it if i had known it was going to take what it took to get the result. Mostly because all is new to me. The whole paint stripping, sanding, spray painting, all is new to me. Only in the middle of the process then i found out my lack of experience really made it hard for me to do it. But i was pretty patient.I didn't try to cut corner. I kept trying to do it right. Why it is a big Yes: because it is satisfying to see the hard work finally pays off!

Will I ever do it again? No. Once is enough.

Will i cherish this memory for years to come? Oh man yes i will

Part of the reason i share it is so that if someone wants to do it knowing that it will take all this hard work, then hopefully this thread can be of a help to that person.

I hope it answers your question

Yes, it does.

And it turned out great. Enjoy the fruits of your hard work. It looks gorgeous!

 

[teachingprotx]

Awesome !!!

 

[wsk429]

I love the cold black look. Great job. Question though. If it's only one gram more, why not just scuff, prime, and paint of the old paint?

 

[jgun]

I love the cold black look. Great job. Question though. If it's only one gram more, why not just scuff, prime, and paint of the old paint?

Hi wsk429. Thanks. It was because i didn't know that the whole thing only added 1 gram. I was really shocked myself!

First time i ever did it. I didn't know what to expect: how much weight would be lost and how much additional weight i would gain from the primer and new paint.

Supposedly i could have added more layers of paint to add more weight. But imagine how many more layers i needed to add to make up for the 30 grams of lost weight? So i didn't continue. I stopped. Mostly also because i was already happy with the result. To make up for the lost weight, i would just add some lead tapes later on[emoji3].

 

[Franklin_B]

Part of the 30g could be masking tape or whatever was covering the grip? Looks like the 298g was original paint + covering and the 268g is paint stripped + no covering.

Awesome job though! I'm thinking of finding some cheap 90's to try this on Maybe the BLX one that had an awful paint job.

 

[gino]

Does anybody know if repainting your frame has an effect on RA stiffness?

 

[Franklin_B]

Does anybody know if repainting your frame has an effect on RA stiffness?

I would hazard a guess it becomes more flexible with thinner paint, because the racquet loses it's "shell"... but I imagine the difference is very small if it is perceptible at all

 

[jgun]

Part of the 30g could be masking tape or whatever was covering the grip? Looks like the 298g was original paint + covering and the 268g is paint stripped + no covering.

Awesome job though! I'm thinking of finding some cheap 90's to try this on Maybe the BLX one that had an awful paint job.

Yup there was some masking tape on the grip when i put it on the scale before i stripped the paint off. I don't know how much it contributed to the overall weight. I assumed it was quite minimum. But what is confusing for me was the fact that i only gained 1 gram. I am really puzzled on this one...

 

[jgun]

Awesome job though! I'm thinking of finding some cheap 90's to try this on Maybe the BLX one that had an awful paint job.

Franklin_B... i don't know about other racquets but the i found original paint on this racquet was really thick! Hence probably it got so much weight? On most sections i had to apply paint stripper twice, and about 2-3mm thick each time so i was able to scrap it all off. Just something to consider if one day you decide go ahead and try to strip the racquet to bare frame. It was not a fun part of the job. The spraying part was pretty fun though [emoji14]

 

[jgun]

Does anybody know if repainting your frame has an effect on RA stiffness?

I can only guess so too. Paint is part of the structure of a racquet. Hence yea removing it (all or just some; in my case it is all) and putting different paint on (hence different material) will change the whole experience/feel.

The only thing i can tell for now is the racquet is more head light. It was already head light as original, now is even more head light ... and lighter. Don't ask me where i'm going to get the power from [emoji51]

I'm yet to try it. Fingers crossed soon[emoji2]

 

[wsk429]

Hi wsk429. Thanks. It was because i didn't know that the whole thing only added 1 gram. I was really shocked myself!

First time i ever did it. I didn't know what to expect: how much weight would be lost and how much additional weight i would gain from the primer and new paint.

Supposedly i could have added more layers of paint to add more weight. But imagine how many more layers i needed to add to make up for the 30 grams of lost weight? So i didn't continue. I stopped. Mostly also because i was already happy with the result. To make up for the lost weight, i would just add some lead tapes later on[emoji3].

I've been itching to repaint one of my ps90's but was afraid I would completely change its feel. Now with your discovery, it's looking like I may try it and be successful.
Question again. Your recipe stated "spray can of primer" and "spray can of paint". Are these like the Rustoleum spray cans you can get from Homedepot?

 

[tk243]

That is a thing of beauty.

If the paint ever scratches on mine and I have somewhere to do it, e.g. a shed I will be seriously tempted to do this.

 

[jgun]

I've been itching to repaint one of my ps90's but was afraid I would completely change its feel. Now with your discovery, it's looking like I may try it and be successful.
Question again. Your recipe stated "spray can of primer" and "spray can of paint". Are these like the Rustoleum spray cans you can get from Homedepot?

I guess you will change its feel, but to what extent I don't know. I haven't tried mine yet, which I'm eager to, weather permitting.

I can only encourage you to try it if you really want to do it yourself. Give it a go! You got nothing to lose except to change the feel of a racquet. You will be fine with the project. You will succeed with it. Just be patient in the process. Do not try to rush it. Take your time. Look at me i stated in my post that this was the first time I ever used a spray paint in my life. So prior to this project I had ZERO knowledge and ZERO skill. I followed my gut nonetheless. And look at the result (not that I want to brag; but rather to encourage you), it was not perfect but it was not bad either, was it? for a total beginner like me.

Yes I think what I used are similar to Rustoleum. These are what I used (in pic below). I live in Australia. Here we have Bunnings Warehouse. What I did was I took my racquet there (after paint stripped off), show them and asked them what I needed for this material. So I was suggested these 2 spray cans for the racquet material and I took them straightaway (I didn't know if they were compatible with each other or not. I trusted the suggestion and took them). If you are experienced with painting then yes use your knowledge to make a better decision regarding what type of paint and primer to use.

I haven't tried hitting with the racquet but I guess the everything is good so far. I think the first test of the paint is during restringing. Someone can correct me on this please if I am wrong. During restringing we put so much pressure on the racquet. If the paint does not hold then I guess it will crack or peel off on or near the area where the machine holds it. Mine is a 6-point mounting machine. I was relieved when I finished with the restringing that not a single thing happened to the paint. It held well . So I guess the paint stood the first test. The second and more test will be hitting with the racquet and the weather condition outside (sun, moisture, cold air, etc). These will be for me to find out once I start using it .

 

[wsk429]

I guess you will change its feel, but to what extent I don't know. I haven't tried mine yet, which I'm eager to, weather permitting.

I can only encourage you to try it if you really want to do it yourself. Give it a go! You got nothing to lose except to change the feel of a racquet. You will be fine with the project. You will succeed with it. Just be patient in the process. Do not try to rush it. Take your time. Look at me i stated in my post that this was the first time I ever used a spray paint in my life. So prior to this project I had ZERO knowledge and ZERO skill. I followed my gut nonetheless. And look at the result (not that I want to brag; but rather to encourage you), it was not perfect but it was not bad either, was it? for a total beginner like me.

Yes I think what I used are similar to Rustoleum. These are what I used (in pic below). I live in Australia. Here we have Bunnings Warehouse. What I did was I took my racquet there (after paint stripped off), show them and asked them what I needed for this material. So I was suggested these 2 spray cans for the racquet material and I took them straightaway (I didn't know if they were compatible with each other or not. I trusted the suggestion and took them). If you are experienced with painting then yes use your knowledge to make a better decision regarding what type of paint and primer to use.

I haven't tried hitting with the racquet but I guess the everything is good so far. I think the first test of the paint is during restringing. Someone can correct me on this please if I am wrong. During restringing we put so much pressure on the racquet. If the paint does not hold then I guess it will crack or peel off on or near the area where the machine holds it. Mine is a 6-point mounting machine. I was relieved when I finished with the restringing that not a single thing happened to the paint. It held well . So I guess the paint stood the first test. The second and more test will be hitting with the racquet and the weather condition outside (sun, moisture, cold air, etc). These will be for me to find out once I start using it .

Those look to be regular primer and enamel in spray cans. Thank so much for sharing your knowledge. Expect to see more blacked-out sticks on courts around the world.

 

[Aretium]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the all black? I mean, I like it a lot. But it is not exactly original. I would however prefer black over 98% of pjs.

 

[Zielmann]

Your first weigh-in has paper or plastic over the grip to protect it. I don't see that in the later weigh-ins. That's probably a large part of the 'missing' 30 grams.

 

[jgun]

That is a thing of beauty.

If the paint ever scratches on mine and I have somewhere to do it, e.g. a shed I will be seriously tempted to do this.

Why not? Give it a try! When spraying the paint perhaps it is better to do it somewhere not too open. You don't want the dust or other small particle to stick to the paint when it is drying. I did it in my garage, with garage door open but not too wide, just enough to give air circulation.

 

[jgun]

Your first weigh-in has paper or plastic over the grip to protect it. I don't see that in the later weigh-ins. That's probably a large part of the 'missing' 30 grams.

It was the masking tape. You are right Zielmann. I believe it contributed to it too. But I am just not sure how much. I really wish I hadn't had it on.

 

[jgun]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the all black? I mean, I like it a lot. But it is not exactly original. I would however prefer black over 98% of pjs.

Aretium I understand what you mean. I, too, Initially planned to add more color to it. Thinking of making it similar to PS85. Still mainly black but with some colors on certain parts. But i got no skill to do it . So i rather than creating a big mess on the racquet, I decided to do it all black.

 

[wsk429]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the all black? I mean, I like it a lot. But it is not exactly original. I would however prefer black over 98% of pjs.

You don't like all black? Even if the original is ugly?

 

[Zielmann]

It was the masking tape. You are right Zielmann. I believe it contributed to it too. But I am just not sure how much. I really wish I hadn't had it on.

It wouldn't be exact, but you could tape up the handle about the same as before, remove the tape, and then weigh the tape by itself.

 

[jgun]

It wouldn't be exact, but you could tape up the handle about the same as before, remove the tape, and then weigh the tape by itself.

Good idea! Never thought about it. Thanks i'll give it a try and see.

 

[Franklin_B]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the all black? I mean, I like it a lot. But it is not exactly original. I would however prefer black over 98% of pjs.

I agree on the 98% bit. I would love to be able to black out everything except the text/logos on the 2014 PS90, but I don't have those kind of painting skills.

 

[teachingprotx]

Does anybody know if repainting your frame has an effect on RA stiffness?

Yes it does if you sand It down.----- enough---------
I've changed RA before ... 6 pts maybe more I believe was the most if memory serves ..it's no exact science and it would be nearly impossible to match 2 to the same sanded ra.. Even though I did actually do it Pure and adulterated Irish luck....
I am sanding with an electric hand Dremel sander ..at first and solely for paint removal , but as a byproduction RA went down too.
I've done it quite a bit now I think roughly 20 frames at this point.. I've done babs, heads and wilsons ... The ones I've gotten RA down the most were the head rackets team pro and club pros.
Which again was by accident but now I do it on purpose. As I like really flexy sticks so it was a win win for me

 

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Yes it does if you sand It down.----- enough---------
I've changed RA before ... 6 pts maybe more I believe was the most if memory serves ..it's no exact science and it would be nearly impossible to match 2 to the same sanded ra.. Even though I did actually do it Pure and adulterated Irish luck....
I am sanding with an electric hand Dremel sander ..at first and solely for paint removal , but as a byproduction RA went down too.
I've done it quite a bit now I think roughly 20 frames at this point.. I've done babs, heads and wilsons ... The ones I've gotten RA down the most were the head rackets team pro and club pros.
Which again was by accident but now I do it on purpose. As I like really flexy sticks so it was a win win for me

Does the RA always decrease? Has any type of primer/paint/gloss added RA stiffness? Thanks for the reply @teachingprotx