Cyclone Tour tension drop is insane

Strung some Cyclone Tour 1.3 (Grey) this week in a hybrid.

10% pre-stretch at 51lbs, as a main, with Pro's Pro Gutex Ultra 1.3 at 53lbs.

The bed read 53lbs using the Tennis Tension app.

In 4 days and very light hitting it was down to low 40s.

I knew CT was bad for tension loss, but not that bad.

Unbelievable.

Cheers, Paul
 

Louis33

Semi-Pro
VCT has poor tension maintenance but plays well when this is accounted for with a higher initial reference tension.

I first tried the 16g version in the mains at 53 lbs and it was the worst string I ever played with due to the tension loss. Volleys were comical and my forehand was neutered due to shots launching. I was not able to step on the gas and switched racquets after 45 mins of testing.

Next outing I strung at 62 lbs in the mains and control was much better and I still had great feel. The first hour of hitting there was a noticeable drop in tension but I was able to adjust and play well. After the first hour the tension loss flattened out and played consistent for the next two weeks.

I have to string VCT higher than a multifilament string to get it to play well but it does have good playability at the right tension. When stringing it stretches on the machine more so than any other string I have strung and has a steep initial tension loss during the first outing, but after this the string seems to stabilize and play consistent.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
@Polotechnics you like others complain about VCT tension loss, especially on an app. Yet I continue to watch 4.5 and 5.0 computer rated men (and former Division One collegiate players) win with the same VCT year after year. I watched two 4.5A (appeal down from 5.0) both using VCT 1.30mm yesterday. And they beat two 4.5 men, who were both using Hyper G. I string a lot of frames, so yes, Hyper G is easily recognized. I stock HG in 1.20, 1.25, and 1.30mm reels so I am very familiar with Solinco strings having been stringing Solinco strings since 2012 when they only made two polys, Revolution and Outlast, and Hyper G and Tour Bite didn't exist.

I have listed the names of 4.5 and 5.0 men who use VCT, their frames and posted photos of their USTA records on this site several times. I have put Talk Tennis posters in touch with them if they wanted to hit against any of these players.

@Louis33 is a high-level player, and I believe under 30, so she has plenty of other choices. But I echo her post, that the VCT plays well for many players after the initial tension drop.

my .02 If you don't like VCT, just use something else. Plenty of choices out there. Just curious if you have ever done that same measurement with the Tennis Tension app on RPM Blast? If you haven't, perhaps you should. The results will be quite eye-opening for you. RPM Blast drops tension quickly. The fact you are putting a shaped poly with a multifilament makes me wonder what you're after. :unsure: Edged or rough polys (Hot Knife) + multifilaments (Warm Butter) = quickly broken crosses. Sorry but I just don't understand posters that use multifilaments with shaped/edged polys. That's just not something I recommend to any client. There are far better choices as a cross with any shaped/edged polys, like a smooth poly cross or synthetic gut

@mikeler another 4.5C who was bumped to 5.0 used VCT string for years, before switching to Tier One's Boost. @blai212 another 4.5C using VCT with smooth slick poly crosses. He doesn't like Tier One Boost. If you want great tension maintenance, Lux 4G is your ticket.

I've been stringing VCT for 8+ years, and have strung over 40 reels of it. For most of the 4.5 /5.0 guys I string it for, none use it below 50 lbs and the majority string it in the mid 50s, not low 50s.
 
Hi G4.

Thanks for the reply.

I'm just trying out a few hybrids as I've developed a touch of tennis elbow since switching to an Extreme Tour.

I'm 4.5 standard in Wales, UK - but we have a different system.

Didn't mean to irritate or annoy.

My apologies, Cheers, Paul
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Hi G4.

Thanks for the reply. I'm just trying out a few hybrids as I've developed a touch of tennis elbow since switching to an Extreme Tour. I'm 4.5 standard in Wales, UK - but we have a different system.

Didn't mean to irritate or annoy.
My apologies, Cheers, Paul
You didn't irritate or annoy whatsoever, and I certainly hope I didn't come across that way to you. I would love to help you if I can. If you have Tennis Elbow, honestly lay off the poly for awhile. Let your elbow heal and use something softer in the meantime. This happened to a client of mine who didn't tell me he had tennis elbow and he keep playing. Fairly high level player (former collegiate player), and he's winning with 1.38mm Triax/ 1.25mm YPTA and getting about 13 hours from it without any more pain. He's have surgery in June after his son graduated high school.

 

John Z.

Rookie
Bottom line is, official numbers (tension loss) only matters if it affects the string characteristics. VCT is fairly special in that it “settles well” for a soft string and preserve most of it’s predictability and playability after its initial drop. Forget about the app, only matters how it plays and if it fits your game and stroke style.
 

mikeler

Moderator
You didn't irritate or annoy whatsoever, and I certainly hope I didn't come across that way to you. I would love to help you if I can. If you have Tennis Elbow, honestly lay off the poly for awhile. Let your elbow heal and use something softer in the meantime. This happened to a client of mine who didn't tell me he had tennis elbow and he keep playing. Fairly high level player (former collegiate player), and he's winning with 1.38mm Triax/ 1.25mm YPTA and getting about 13 hours from it without any more pain. He's have surgery in June after his son graduated high school.

Zyex is the hot thing around here now for those with elbow issues.
 

Luismp8a

New User
You didn't irritate or annoy whatsoever, and I certainly hope I didn't come across that way to you. I would love to help you if I can. If you have Tennis Elbow, honestly lay off the poly for awhile. Let your elbow heal and use something softer in the meantime. This happened to a client of mine who didn't tell me he had tennis elbow and he keep playing. Fairly high level player (former collegiate player), and he's winning with 1.38mm Triax/ 1.25mm YPTA and getting about 13 hours from it without any more pain. He's have surgery in June after his son graduated high school.

Man, I want to ask you. I´m from a small town in Mexico so I really don´t have access to a lot of strings. Mostly just Tier One right now, Do you think Triumph 1.30 (mains) and Ghostwire 1.23 as a cross is a good option? I play with a Speed Pro (2018) and I´m coming back from TE.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Man, I want to ask you. I´m from a small town in Mexico so I really don´t have access to a lot of strings. Mostly just Tier One right now, Do you think Triumph 1.30 (mains) and Ghostwire 1.23 as a cross is a good option? I play with a Speed Pro (2018) and I´m coming back from TE.
If you're coming back from tennis elbow, I would be very hesitant to use most poly crosses. But Triump/1.22 GW should be fairly soft.. Triumph / Isospeed Cream will be a cheaper and softer if you can get Cream
 

RF_PRO_STAFF

Semi-Pro
I also experience huge tension loss with VCT. I use the red 1.20 gauge in VC95's at 22/20.5 kg (48.5/45.2 lbs). The playability of the string is almost perfect for me, up to a certain point. After that, it just falls off a cliff. I really don't mind though because in the meanwhile, I get enough amazing playing hours out of it for the cost (I use a reel). The comfort and playability are far more important to me than the price, durability and tension maintenaince.
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
Man, I want to ask you. I´m from a small town in Mexico so I really don´t have access to a lot of strings. Mostly just Tier One right now, Do you think Triumph 1.30 (mains) and Ghostwire 1.23 as a cross is a good option? I play with a Speed Pro (2018) and I´m coming back from TE.
If you want to use poly in an 18X20 with elbow issues, you basically have to go to 18 or 19g strings. They tend to be slightly more powerful and more forgiving, so stringing it a kg or 2 tighter likely would help with control and feel. I string my 18X20's with 18g poly typically 23-25kg.
 
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