Czech tennis technique

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Whats it about czech tennis?
Lots of them on the mens like berdych, lehecka, mensik but also on the wta tour they seem to have very clean technique.
Forehand backhand, serve, doesnt matter... How do they teach there?
 
Czech coaches have 4 year degrees in the trade which we don't have in the USA. Anyone can teach here with little if any qualifications. Czechs know their stuff and teach movement into the earliest experiences on court for kids while we tend to make them stand still mostly to learn the strokes. That's why they have had such young success stories like Vaidisova who I spent years with working along side her step-dad coach who trained her that way to get her to 6th on WTA.
 
Whats it about czech tennis?
Lots of them on the mens like berdych, lehecka, mensik but also on the wta tour they seem to have very clean technique.
Forehand backhand, serve, doesnt matter... How do they teach there?
My associate Martin Baroch has had a big influence there for well over a decade and his big message is how to use the core loading and unloading much like we teach in Congruent Tennis. He has endorsed our system and the new book featuring our work.
 
I'd agree with loading the weight properly for the stance but great players are more often locked in and remain still with their core as they pivot from the mid-point of the stance where their heads don't move from backswing to follow thru. Noticed this in Agassi when he came at 14 to the Academy. Back to forward transfer is bit over-rated and over-emphasized. Too many players are throwing every body part into their pursuit of more power and never find it because it's a lot of wasted energy which makes them look like they are over-working yet not achieving desired results. Smooth, Fluid and effortless is the pro game style. Again simplify even on technique.
 
I'd agree with loading the weight properly for the stance but great players are more often locked in and remain still with their core as they pivot from the mid-point of the stance where their heads don't move from backswing to follow thru. Noticed this in Agassi when he came at 14 to the Academy. Back to forward transfer is bit over-rated and over-emphasized. Too many players are throwing every body part into their pursuit of more power and never find it because it's a lot of wasted energy which makes them look like they are over-working yet not achieving desired results. Smooth, Fluid and effortless is the pro game style. Again simplify even on technique.
Thank you! I post every week about how when your weight shifts forward it negatively affects bringing the racquet to contact.
 
Thank you! I post every week about how when your weight shifts forward it negatively affects bringing the racquet to contact.
This doesn’t sound right. With throwing mechanics, weight shift is usually forward. With tennis serves and many, if not most, volleys, weight shift is forward.

With groundstrokes, it depends on the situation. When hitting with a neutral stance or when attacking a ball, the forward weight shift often happens prior to contact. With an open stance, there might not be a weight shift prior to contact — but might very well occur after contact. When attacking high balls, even with an open stance, there will often be a weight shift forward prior to contact.
 
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This doesn’t sound right. With throwing mechanics, weight shift is usually forward. With tennis serves and many, if not most, volleys, weight shift is forward.

With groundstrokes, it depends on the situation. When hitting with a neutral stance or when attacking a ball, the forward weight shift often happens prior to contact. With an open stance, there might not be a weight shift prior to contact — but might very well occur after contact. When attacking high balls, even with an open stance, there will often be a weight shift forward prior to contact.
See for yourself.

 
@Serve Doc
What would you recommend for teaching the serve to my kid (6-7 yrs old) that is just starting to play tennis?

Should I wait until he can hit some ground strokes ans volleys first?

I've only brought him to the court with me a handful of times. I had him throwing some tennis balls after some hand feed ground strokes.
 
See for yourself.

This doesn't contradict what I said. A lot of shots here with Novak hitting way behind the BL. A lot of them are defensive or neutral shots. But there are a number of shots where he shifts his weight forward prior to contact -- w/o negatively affecting his forward swing to contact.

Yes, a lot of modern g'strokes, esp the Fh, are hit off the back foot or w little or no weight shift. Sometimes with a backward pivot or a shift from R to L or an upward shift rather than a forward weight shift. But there are still shots hit with a forward shift.
 
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This doesn't contradict what I said. A lot of shots here with Novak hitting way behind the BL. A lot of them are defensive or neutral shots. But there are a number of shots where he shifts his weight forward prior to contact -- w/o negatively affecting his forward swing to contact.
Do we consider right side of the body going back and forward (in coil-uncoil) as a type of weight transfer? Because that seems to be what’s occurring mainly.
 
This doesn’t sound right. With throwing mechanics, weight shift is usually forward. With tennis serves and many, if not most, volleys, weight shift is forward.

With groundstrokes, it depends on the situation. When hitting with a neutral stance or when attacking a ball, the forward weight shift often happens prior to contact. With an open stance, there might not be a weight shift prior to contact — but might very well occur after contact. When attacking high balls, even with an open stance, there will often be a weight shift forward prior to contact.
Lower body weight is to balance and stabilize whatever the upper body does you would say?
 
Do we consider right side of the body going back and forward (in coil-uncoil) as a type of weight transfer? Because that seems to be what’s occurring mainly.
Not looking so much at the coil/uncoil as much as which direction his CoG is moving during the forward swing.

If you watch videos of Novak, you will see a lot more forward weight shifts on his Bh side than his Fh.


As mentioned before there are also forward weight shifts on serves & on most volleys.
 
Not looking so much at the coil/uncoil as much as which direction his CoG is moving during the forward swing.

If you watch videos of Novak, you will see a lot more forward weight shifts on his Bh side than his Fh.


As mentioned before there are also forward weight shifts on serves & on most volleys.
What I see is almost only rotation on both his backhand and forehands. No linear weight transfer.
 
What I see is almost only rotation on both his backhand and forehands. No linear weight transfer.
Not what I am seeing on most of his BH shots here. Loads up on his back foot for his takeback but shifts his weight forward when he starts his forward swing. Don't see much weight on his back foot at contact for a lot of these shots. In fact, his back foot is off the ground in many cases
 
Not what I am seeing on most of his BH shots here. Loads up on his back foot for his takeback but shifts his weight forward when he starts his forward swing. Don't see much weight on his back foot at contact for a lot of these shots. In fact, his back foot is off the ground in many cases
I guess I consider that a hip drive, part of the uncoiling action. Is it some sort of weight transfer? Maybe. I’m not sure.
 
I guess I consider that a hip drive, part of the uncoiling action. Is it some sort of weight transfer? Maybe. I’m not sure.
If I see his weight start primarily on his back leg and it shifts forward during his fwd swing, I see that as a shifting of his weight forward. It often is a weight transfer. But if both feet leave the air, there might have been a shift forward but it might not qualify as a transfer since their is no longer weight on his feet.

On another note. Many top players hit a lot of open-stance Fh shots where the weight stays on their back foot at contact. That creates a fair amt of torque on that hip.

Quite a few pros have ended up with R hip issues as a result of this. But most pro players now fortify their hips with appropriate exercises to minimize injury to the hip. Many lesser players who try to emulate modern pro strokes do not put in the work to fortify their hips. If so, they would be better off employing more classic stroke mechanics that involve more neutral stances (& some semi-open stances) and more weight shift — so that they stress the R hip less.
 
If I see his weight start primarily on his back leg and it shifts forward during his fwd swing, I see that as a shifting of his weight forward. It often is a weight transfer.
You have to create the stretch that allows you to pull the racquet to contact on a bh stroke. So yes, you move from one foot to the other. It has nothing to do with moving the weight through the shot. Moving the body forward while swinging the racquet is detrimental to rhs.

See Novak here. Same stroke. From backswing to contact, very little forward movement per the Fever Tree logo.

 
I’ll add my opinion to this thread as I was born in Czech Republic, but grew up in Canada since I was a little kid. I coached in Prague for 7 years from 2011-2018.
The technique aspect I would say is definitely true, as I noticed it’s a big part of the training there (from top coaches) along with footwork and balance. It has to be as the majority of courts in the country are red clay including indoors. In the winter they just bubble the clay courts, and in my opinion it plays like ass under a bubble, but it is what it is and you better know how to move and technique needs to be solid.

There are tons, and I mean tons of mediocre coaches in the country. Charging very little for a lesson, come on court with horrible balls, don’t shut their mouth the whole lesson and are basically ball feeders. No where is it perfect. However, one of the biggest differences between Czech Republic and tennis in Canada for example, as I can compare those two really well, is that in CZ there’s an environment and culture around tennis and especially competitive tennis. Be it high quality league matches between clubs, lots of tournament, competition between players, pride etc. One of the biggest differences I found in regards to culture was that former players (top 500, 600, 700 etc) become coaches for various reasons and can then better teach the next generation of players, especially through experience of their own which is severely lacking in a country such as Canada. I mention various reasons for them to become coaches as it can be anything from a lack of other jobs or just not being able to have a corporate job but instead can make a decent living coaching tennis. The culture in Canada is nowhere near this, nor is the environment at tennis clubs. It’s all about recreational tennis and people here do not understand what it takes or what actually is high level coaching, training and high performance junior tennis. I swear sometimes people, especially tennis parents, have no clue what a good quality coach actually is and get BS’ed by what I like to call used car salesman. I found that in CZ its a little bit different and because its a small country and with a large tennis population, reputations play a big part and its not difficult to find a good coach who has produced results.

Why are Czechs producing good players now? Who really knows as I didn’t find anything out of the ordinary compared to my time in Germany or Spain. Spain definitely has a ton of great coaching methodologies in RPT Europe (drills, mindset, fitness etc) so who knows. I think it also goes back to a bit of the Slavic and Eastern European (for the Czechs in here I know you’ll say “NO WE ARE CENTRAL EUROPE!!” Haha) mentality, parents being more tough on their kids, kids understanding the sacrifices their family is making and so on.
 
I’ll add my opinion to this thread as I was born in Czech Republic, but grew up in Canada since I was a little kid. I coached in Prague for 7 years from 2011-2018.
The technique aspect I would say is definitely true, as I noticed it’s a big part of the training there (from top coaches) along with footwork and balance. It has to be as the majority of courts in the country are red clay including indoors. In the winter they just bubble the clay courts, and in my opinion it plays like ass under a bubble, but it is what it is and you better know how to move and technique needs to be solid.

There are tons, and I mean tons of mediocre coaches in the country. Charging very little for a lesson, come on court with horrible balls, don’t shut their mouth the whole lesson and are basically ball feeders. No where is it perfect. However, one of the biggest differences between Czech Republic and tennis in Canada for example, as I can compare those two really well, is that in CZ there’s an environment and culture around tennis and especially competitive tennis. Be it high quality league matches between clubs, lots of tournament, competition between players, pride etc. One of the biggest differences I found in regards to culture was that former players (top 500, 600, 700 etc) become coaches for various reasons and can then better teach the next generation of players, especially through experience of their own which is severely lacking in a country such as Canada. I mention various reasons for them to become coaches as it can be anything from a lack of other jobs or just not being able to have a corporate job but instead can make a decent living coaching tennis. The culture in Canada is nowhere near this, nor is the environment at tennis clubs. It’s all about recreational tennis and people here do not understand what it takes or what actually is high level coaching, training and high performance junior tennis. I swear sometimes people, especially tennis parents, have no clue what a good quality coach actually is and get BS’ed by what I like to call used car salesman. I found that in CZ its a little bit different and because its a small country and with a large tennis population, reputations play a big part and its not difficult to find a good coach who has produced results.

Why are Czechs producing good players now? Who really knows as I didn’t find anything out of the ordinary compared to my time in Germany or Spain. Spain definitely has a ton of great coaching methodologies in RPT Europe (drills, mindset, fitness etc) so who knows. I think it also goes back to a bit of the Slavic and Eastern European (for the Czechs in here I know you’ll say “NO WE ARE CENTRAL EUROPE!!” Haha) mentality, parents being more tough on their kids, kids understanding the sacrifices their family is making and so on.


Good post!
I was born near Prague as well and went to Austria when I was 8. I played and traveled with a lot of the best players from both countries and can confirm a lot from your post.
The "eastern europe thing" is a relict from communist times. It was the only way out and that was a big motivation. I kind of think, that it was kept somehow, even when the wall fell.

Also technique is not only a coaches thing. I was taught a good technique by my father and his mentality was, that correct strokes are above most of other tennis aspects. That was nothing special, since my friends had fathers with the same mentality.

I should ask my mother for old photos, where like 20 children stand in a huge circle and practice strokes without a ball or even a tennis court.
 
Weight transfer is more important on the serve, where power is the currency. So launching your center of mass forward into the court is useful.

For groundstrokes, it’s more about accuracy and reliability, so keeping you head still like a golfer off the tee to ensure clean contact is more valuable than throwing your body into the shot.
 
Not looking so much at the coil/uncoil as much as which direction his CoG is moving during the forward swing.

If you watch videos of Novak, you will see a lot more forward weight shifts on his Bh side than his Fh.


As mentioned before there are also forward weight shifts on serves & on most volleys.
Translation can kill angular momentum. You tend to see some translation in most racket sports followed by a shift to angular momentum through the shot.
Don't forget we commonly have recovered to a position where we need to go forward more often than back up (humans are slower moving backward) with a fair bit of sideways in tennis.
The translation used in the shot is often way smaller than people realise

Edit: when we're trying to hit or send things straight we use angular momentum and fling the thing off at a tangent. By we I means trying to utilise forces effectively and efficiently
 
Good post!
I was born near Prague as well and went to Austria when I was 8. I played and traveled with a lot of the best players from both countries and can confirm a lot from your post.
The "eastern europe thing" is a relict from communist times. It was the only way out and that was a big motivation. I kind of think, that it was kept somehow, even when the wall fell.

Also technique is not only a coaches thing. I was taught a good technique by my father and his mentality was, that correct strokes are above most of other tennis aspects. That was nothing special, since my friends had fathers with the same mentality.

I should ask my mother for old photos, where like 20 children stand in a huge circle and practice strokes without a ball or even a tennis court.

100% my dad was the same way with technique and how he taught me, he wanted me to develop sound strokes so they don’t break down under pressure. Now at 43 years old people look at my one handed backhand or serve for example and say damn how do you hit it so well? He’d also choose coaches who knew what they were doing as he didn’t want to waste money on someone he didn’t trust. It’s not about being cheap, its about being smart and finding the best candidate.

I definitely still see the “wanting to get out“ mentality still alive and well there just of course not as strong as it used to be.

Another thing I forgot to mention in my previous post is junior players don’t play there to get a NCAA scholarship. If you’re good you’re trying to potentially go professional. That’s it. Some will go to college in the US but a larger majority don’t want that. So it’s all or nothing.
 
100% my dad was the same way with technique and how he taught me, he wanted me to develop sound strokes so they don’t break down under pressure. Now at 43 years old people look at my one handed backhand or serve for example and say damn how do you hit it so well? He’d also choose coaches who knew what they were doing as he didn’t want to waste money on someone he didn’t trust. It’s not about being cheap, its about being smart and finding the best candidate.

I definitely still see the “wanting to get out“ mentality still alive and well there just of course not as strong as it used to be.

Another thing I forgot to mention in my previous post is junior players don’t play there to get a NCAA scholarship. If you’re good you’re trying to potentially go professional. That’s it. Some will go to college in the US but a larger majority don’t want that. So it’s all or nothing.

Funny, im 42 so we and our fathers are from the same time. Im a fat old man now but ppl still ask about my technique and my ohb.
 
I agree with you but try getting 7 and 8 year olds to consistently focus on technique and get back to me. There may be the very rare one predisposed to reach high levels
Environment and culture. Take them to a club where all the other kids are focused and working hard and they’ll more than likely fit right in. Most clubs in North America run fun tennis programs, so if they see other kids goofing off they will as well.
 
See for yourself.

I am not sure what you are saying. I only watched the first 3.5 minutes and in every single forehand, the hips rotate forward. Basically, it is a pivot motion with the hips and shoulders moving forward.

If you are saying, it isn't necessary to step out on the front foot prior to contact, I sort of agree. If you are saying forehand are hit without forward motion, I totally disagree and the video proves that the hips and shoulders are rotating forward. The shift of weight on the feet depends on the setup and how much duress you are under. In some cases, the his L foot will actually move backwards but even in those cases the hips rotate forward.

For me, forward rotation of the core is a law of nature in all good tennis forehands and 2 handed backhands. It prevalent in 1HBH too but to a lesser degree.
 
Environment and culture. Take them to a club where all the other kids are focused and working hard and they’ll more than likely fit right in. Most clubs in North America run fun tennis programs, so if they see other kids goofing off they will as well.
Not that simple. There are no other kids in a private lesson and what other kids are doing is not the solution.
 
Private lessons? Why?
At the beginning do everything with group dynamics and motivation.

Plenty of time for private lessons at a later age.
Kids group lessons is not for learning any type of advanced technique only privates.
Group lessons are fast paced and not time to stop and individually work on technique
 
Not that simple. There are no other kids in a private lesson and what other kids are doing is not the solution.
again, it's the culture. In Europe and Asian, you are much more likely to find kids do what seniors and coaches ask them to do. In America, parents have little "authority" over kids. Kids are given reward after reward in order to do small things that are good for them. graduate students in universities are encouraged to think independently and not "listen" to their professors/supervisors at some level. There are always pros and cons for each approach.
 
again, it's the culture. In Europe and Asian, you are much more likely to find kids do what seniors and coaches ask them to do. In America, parents have little "authority" over kids. Kids are given reward after reward in order to do small things that are good for them. graduate students in universities are encouraged to think independently and not "listen" to their professors/supervisors at some level. There are always pros and cons for each approach.
My club's tennis director's son who is in high school is now studying and training in an academy in France and hopes to go pro.
 
Kids group lessons is not for learning any type of advanced technique only privates.
Group lessons are fast paced and not time to stop and individually work on technique

That is so wrong. Later, when teaching to every kid another detail... sure, but for the basic strokes imitation and repetition are key. The group also makes the boring topic a bit more fun and relaxed.
 
Environment and culture. Take them to a club where all the other kids are focused and working hard and they’ll more than likely fit right in. Most clubs in North America run fun tennis programs, so if they see other kids goofing off they will as well.
Yep, I am 49 and confirm all the details already shared. The thing here is, parents wants their kids to learn as many sports they can and usually let them pick the one which they like. Of course there are traditions in some family generations that somehow narrow the variety and such parents may choose a sport for their kid. But important is the club and couches approach (regardless of sport) - they don't want lazy kids and are not afraid to say them (or parents) to not come next time, it is a waist of time. Or they choose the hard way and let the lazy kid do extra workout and see if the kid hangs on or quit.
 
That is so wrong. Later, when teaching to every kid another detail... sure, but for the basic strokes imitation and repetition are key. The group also makes the boring topic a bit more fun and relaxed.
So wrong lol so you think you can stop and work with one kid while the others are sitting there twiddling their thumbs
They must all be engaged continuously
 
So wrong lol so you think you can stop and work with one kid while the others are sitting there twiddling their thumbs
They must all be engaged continuously
No as mentioned, in the beginning you seldom stop to work with one kid. You show them all.

There is no way a 4-6 year old kid can give enough attention in a private lesson. Wasted money and time.
 
I am not sure what you are saying. I only watched the first 3.5 minutes and in every single forehand, the hips rotate forward. Basically, it is a pivot motion with the hips and shoulders moving forward.

If you are saying, it isn't necessary to step out on the front foot prior to contact, I sort of agree. If you are saying forehand are hit without forward motion, I totally disagree and the video proves that the hips and shoulders are rotating forward. The shift of weight on the feet depends on the setup and how much duress you are under. In some cases, the his L foot will actually move backwards but even in those cases the hips rotate forward.

For me, forward rotation of the core is a law of nature in all good tennis forehands and 2 handed backhands. It prevalent in 1HBH too but to a lesser degree.
How did you misunderstand “see for yourself?”

The video was posted so he could “see for himself.” It wasn’t evidence to support or prove anything.
 
No as mentioned, in the beginning you seldom stop to work with one kid. You show them all.

There is no way a 4-6 year old kid can give enough attention in a private lesson. Wasted money and time.
I never said 4 to 6 i said 7 to 8
I hope someday you can get a group of 7 and 8 year old beginners some who cannot even hit the ball and try to teach them advanced technique all at once
 
I never said 4 to 6 i said 7 to 8
I hope someday you can get a group of 7 and 8 year old beginners some who cannot even hit the ball and try to teach them advanced technique all at once

We didnt say advanced technique. We said in Czech the basics of technique are taught very early. Thats nothing done in private lesson. You do that in group and show all of them. By group dynamics, games and fun they are eager to imitate as good as they can.
I coached a lot of kids and young players from beginners to tournament players. No need to worry.

Edit: Or maybe lets try another way. Whats advanced technique that needs to be taught in private lessons in early age in your opinion?
 
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I never said 4 to 6 i said 7 to 8
I hope someday you can get a group of 7 and 8 year old beginners some who cannot even hit the ball and try to teach them advanced technique all at once
You don’t teach 7 and 8 year olds “advanced” technique, whatever that is in your opinion. You teach kids that age contact point, ball control, balance, movement etc. all which can be done in a group setting. Kids at that age are usually not strong enough physically to execute technique perfectly let alone “advanced” technique (again I’m not sure what that is in your opinion but I can guess). Even the most talented 8 and 9 year olds have flawed technique because of their size and strength.
 
Intersting didnt know that there are many clay courts in Czech. But still czech tennis players are not really clay courters. So they must drill/focus on different things than e.g. Spain tennis.
 
Not that simple. There are no other kids in a private lesson and what other kids are doing is not the solution.

Kids group lessons is not for learning any type of advanced technique only privates.
Group lessons are fast paced and not time to stop and individually work on technique

You will either find a way, or an excuse.

Check out Spartak Moscow or Melanie Molitors approach.

One court, Group lessons with kids in a row doing shadow swings etc.
 
You don’t teach 7 and 8 year olds “advanced” technique, whatever that is in your opinion. You teach kids that age contact point, ball control, balance, movement etc. all which can be done in a group setting. Kids at that age are usually not strong enough physically to execute technique perfectly let alone “advanced” technique (again I’m not sure what that is in your opinion but I can guess). Even the most talented 8 and 9 year olds have flawed technique because of their size and strength.
I meant more advanced the simply making contact with the ball for example topspin.
 
Intersting didnt know that there are many clay courts in Czech. But still czech tennis players are not really clay courters. So they must drill/focus on different things than e.g. Spain tennis.


The whole European Union is mostly clay outdoors. Indoors its split between clay and some sort of carpet.
There are hard courts, but they are not common.
Spain is more physical, Czech tennis is about clean strokes.
 
Less players and less facilities give better opportunities for experienced coaches to hold what few spots there are.
 
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