Daniel Day-Lewis Or Robert De Niro?

Who Is The Better Actor?


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donquijote

G.O.A.T.
or is sureshs the best actor in front of the cameras? Didn't you see his video? He could act as Federer doing tennis ballet. He only needs to lose 2.5 tons for the role.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
The problem with DDL nowadays he doesn't just make many movies. He is at point now where he reads scripts and is very selective. Now all those roles he does take it really feels like he does that better than anyone else.

I'm waiting for DDls later career if he hangs around and cashes it in doing supporting roles and comedy bits to compare.

But at this point RDNs body of work is so vast in comparison.
 
The problem with DDL nowadays he doesn't just make many movies. He is at point now where he reads scripts and is very selective. Now all those roles he does take it really feels like he does that better than anyone else.

I'm waiting for DDls later career if he hangs around and cashes it in doing supporting roles and comedy bits to compare.

But at this point RDNs body of work is so vast in comparison.
Interesting because I think it's a very good thing that DDL is being selective and it takes guts to do that. He will be relatively poorer for it but his legacy will be richer. I mean, when a newspaper article described RDN as the Meet The Fockers star, I was like, surely, surely, they could have thought of a better RDN starrer. Not RDN from Taxi Driver or Cape Fear? Not even RDN from Untouchables or Falling in Love?
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Interesting because I think it's a very good thing that DDL is being selective and it takes guts to do that. He will be relatively poorer for it but his legacy will be richer. I mean, when a newspaper article described RDN as the Meet The Fockers star, I was like, surely, surely, they could have thought of a better RDN starrer. Not RDN from Taxi Driver or Cape Fear? Not even RDN from Untouchables or Falling in Love?
I had almost mentioned "Cape Fear" also. If the the test of the actor is being convinced they are actually that character, and not just a great actor playing that character... Cape Fear was at the top for RDN. OMG ... he was that guy. Nolte also did a good job in that movie going away from his "tough guy" roles.

That was my test for my list above... i.e. they "were" that character in that movie or series ... not who was best actor for life. Yes ... OP ... being a "turd" here again. :) That said, I've never seen a thread stay on topic for long ... your's made it longer than most.
 

Midaso240

Hall of Fame
The problem with DDL nowadays he doesn't just make many movies. He is at point now where he reads scripts and is very selective. Now all those roles he does take it really feels like he does that better than anyone else.

I'm waiting for DDls later career if he hangs around and cashes it in doing supporting roles and comedy bits to compare.

But at this point RDNs body of work is so vast in comparison.
I think this is the big problem in comparing them. DDL is much more selective and takes time with his roles,that's the way he works. I'm sure De Niro would have been independently wealthy in 1995,he could have done the same. He could have semi retired and just taken an exceptional role every 5-10 years if he'd wanted. It's not comparing apples with apples. A great actor to one person can be a mediocre one to another person,I've heard a Hollywood actor say those very words
 

CivicLx

Hall of Fame
The problem with DDL nowadays he doesn't just make many movies. He is at point now where he reads scripts and is very selective. Now all those roles he does take it really feels like he does that better than anyone else.

I'm waiting for DDls later career if he hangs around and cashes it in doing supporting roles and comedy bits to compare.

But at this point RDNs body of work is so vast in comparison.
My dad was saying the same thing about DDL later in his career. He wonders if it gets to a point where DDL isn't getting the same number of scripts as he probably is now, will he take smaller parts in mediocre films. I think he'll always be selective for the rest of his career.
I had almost mentioned "Cape Fear" also. If the the test of the actor is being convinced they are actually that character, and not just a great actor playing that character... Cape Fear was at the top for RDN. OMG ... he was that guy. Nolte also did a good job in that movie going away from his "tough guy" roles.

That was my test for my list above... i.e. they "were" that character in that movie or series ... not who was best actor for life. Yes ... OP ... being a "turd" here again. :) That said, I've never seen a thread stay on topic for long ... your's made it longer than most.
It's ok, you're not being too turdish right now:p
Tim Roth in Rob Roy ... add another to the Brit column
Yeah Tim was quite good in that role. I also enjoyed him in The Hit (1984).
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
My dad was saying the same thing about DDL later in his career. He wonders if it gets to a point where DDL isn't getting the same number of scripts as he probably is now, will he take smaller parts in mediocre films. I think he'll always be selective for the rest of his career.

It's ok, you're not being too turdish right now:p

Yeah Tim was quite good in that role. I also enjoyed him in The Hit (1984).
Roth and Damian Lewis use their ability to master accents and convincingly play American characters, Roth in his roles for Tarantino in "Reservoir Dogs" and "Pulp Fiction" and Lewis on the small screen in "Band Of Brothers", "Homeland" and now as Evil Bobby Axelrod in "Billions".

The best Brit mastering an American accent I saw live was Olivier playing James Tyrone, patriarch of the family in Eugene O'Neill's "Long Day's Journey Into The Night". Ten rows away from the master actor at the Old Vic on my 20th birthday. Betterer than a box seat for a fedr slam final, I would imagine...but I'd like the chance to confirm my belief.:cool:
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Roth and Damian Lewis use their ability to master accents and convincingly play American characters, Roth in his roles for Tarantino in "Reservoir Dogs" and "Pulp Fiction" and Lewis on the small screen in "Band Of Brothers", "Homeland" and now as Evil Bobby Axelrod in "Billions".

The best Brit mastering an American accent I saw live was Olivier playing James Tyrone, patriarch of the family in Eugene O'Neill's "Long Day's Journey Into The Night". Ten rows away from the master actor at the Old Vic on my 20th birthday. Betterer than a box seat for a fedr slam final, I would imagine...but I'd like the chance to confirm my belief.:cool:
I would add Hugh Laurie in "House" and Kevin McKidd (Owen Hunt) in "Grey's Anatomy". :cool:
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Who would make for a better portrayal of Sewretch, that is the question!

I take RDN for his experience in The Raging Bull as a very fat Jake La Motta, although DDL could fall back on his work in My Left Foot to accurately portray the :p and :D elephant ballet scenes.
 

Incognito

Legend
DDL is phenomenal but so is DeNiro. People talk about Raging Bull and The Godfather, but IF you really want to see DeNiro's range as an actor, you need to watch "awakenings".
 

CivicLx

Hall of Fame
If they ever make a movie about De Niro, they should cast DDL to play him over De Niro himself:D
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Oh yes I know there is good discussion comparing DDL to Oldman. It's just that my dad and I were talking about Bob and Daniel.

But hey hey hey. I don't see Nicholson's name in the thread. This thread was created in order to talk about the brilliance of Daniel Day-Lewis. Let's keep it on topic you turds:p;)
Hamlet says it's on topic.;)
 
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70sHollywood

Guest
If they ever make a movie about De Niro, they should cast DDL to play him over De Niro himself:D
It's funny you say that because I think in Gangs of New York he is kind of playing Robert De Niro playing Bill the Butcher. I believe the role was originally intended for De Niro when it was first written years before it finally got made.
 

Noveson

Hall of Fame
It's funny you say that because I think in Gangs of New York he is kind of playing Robert De Niro playing Bill the Butcher. I believe the role was originally intended for De Niro when it was first written years before it finally got made.
Bill the Butcher was one of the most engrossing characters I've ever watched in a movie. Such a good character
 
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70sHollywood

Guest
Bill the Butcher was one of the most engrossing characters I've ever watched in a movie. Such a good character
I don't like the film, but I think the performance is great. This is a very rare occurence for me.
 

skaj

Hall of Fame
De Niro is very overrated, like Meryl Streep. Daniel Day Lewis has a wider range, deeper emotion.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
DeNiro has done so many marginal take-the-money-and-run films it's hard to remember what he's actually capable of. Nobody really becomes a character better than DDL, though. And he works hard at the becoming; Spielberg said he always remained in character when the camera wasn't rolling for "Lincoln"
 
DeNiro has done so many marginal take-the-money-and-run films it's hard to remember what he's actually capable of. Nobody really becomes a character better than DDL, though. And he works hard at the becoming; Spielberg said he always remained in character when the camera wasn't rolling for "Lincoln"
RDN was a powerhouse back in the 70s and 80s, had a mixed bag in the 90s but with some good roles but has been a write off mostly from the noughties. So limited effect plus recency bias makes DDL look even better against RDN than he really is. I love DDL to pieces but I also think he does 'menacing' in a very dramatized way (which is also why he loves period films where he can put on a stentorian accent). RDN can do it in a far more natural way, he has naturally sneaky eyes.
 
"Look at me, I'm acting!!!"
"Dustin Hoffman didn't shower, sleep or change clothes for 4 days, to get into character for "Marathon Man". When co-star Sir. Laurence Olivier heard about it, he said "My dear boy, why don't you try ACTING? It's so much easier""
 
I clicked on the "Votes" icon next to DDL (since it was on the top) just to see who voted for whom and not to cast a vote per se - but it 'auto-voted' nevertheless.

They're both accomplished actors and I didn't want to 'vote' one over the other so detract (-1) one vote for DDL.....fwiw.

Actress: Anna Magnani / Actor: Marlon Brando . imho
 
Daniel Day Lewis is the best actor I have ever seen.
Acting to me is all about creating a character with its idiosyncrasies, voice, walk, the way of talking, personality traits and conflicts.

Bob is awesome but like moast actors of his generation he couldn't let go of his own self and that's very evident.
In some movies he did and he is rightfully recognised for it but like Al(except Godfather etc) and Jack he always had glimpses of himself in his roles.

Daniel is a chameleon if there ever was one.
He creates a new character in every movie and how distinct those characters are in their traits and moar fascinatingly their idiosyncrasies is the very evidence of his greatness. Literally no one compares. This guy is in a different stratosphere. I can put about 20 great actors in sphere just below him but can't put them up with him.

When people say he doesn't have different genres of movies other than drama it doesn't make any sense to me.
Acting isn't about the genre of the movie. It is about the character you create. Genre of the movie is a measuring stick for the director not an actor.

Oh and btw how the phuck do you create so many different voices and make none of them seem mechanical or forced.
 
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van_Loederen

Professional
i was wondering how Lewis became popular enough to take on de Niro, but he played Lincoln.
outside the US he's not that popular. thought the thread was a joke at first
 
i was wondering how Lewis became popular enough to take on de Niro, but he played Lincoln.
outside the US he's not that popular. thought the thread was a joke at first
Think he would be quite popular in his home country of Britain.
Also having 3 Oscars for lead role and numerous memorable performances help you become a global icon, one would assume.
Then there's the GOAT lists with many calling him the best ever screen actor.
Also uniquely known for his method exploits.
 

van_Loederen

Professional
Think he would be quite popular in his home country of Britain.
Also having 3 Oscars for lead role and numerous memorable performances help you become a global icon, one would assume.
Then there's the GOAT lists with many calling him the best ever screen actor.
Also uniquely known for his method exploits.
oscars are awarded by the industry, not the people
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
If you put it another way, you'd ask who has been in better films with better directors?

RDN seems to be ahead on that score.

With regard to DDL's method acting, I also liked the line "My dear boy, why don't you try acting'?
 
"My dear boy, why don't you try acting'?
Because it doesn't generate the same results.
When you don't go inside the skin of a character all you end up doing is playing yourself while trying to display different emotions.
That's not creating a character.

Method acting is generally misunderstood though. Many think that Al and Bob aren't method actors but that isn't true.
Almost all serious actors in the last 50 years have been using some or the other kind of method to create distinctive characters.
Daniel just takes it one(or ten) step ahead.

Without a method you are basically left with James Stewart characters which are nothing moar than an actor playing emotions.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
This is a caricature of non-method acting, which went way beyond 'staginess' a long time ago.

The idea that you have to stay in character 24/7 and somehow 'live the role' creates its own form of staginess in some actors.

Playing historical figures somewhat hides this both behind an elaborately accurate facade and behind the fact that what was 'inside the skin' is open to a variety of interpretation.

I really liked the Anderson film on the oil tycoon, but I could barely watch the Mohicans or Lincoln.

Because it doesn't generate the same results.
When you don't go inside the skin of a character all you end up doing is playing yourself while trying to display different emotions.
That's not creating a character.

Method acting is generally misunderstood though. Many think that Al and Bob aren't method actors but that isn't true.
Almost all serious actors in the last 50 years have been using some or the other kind of method to create distinctive characters.
Daniel just takes it one(or ten) step ahead.

Without a method you are basically left with James Stewart characters which are nothing moar than an actor playing emotions.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Sir Olivier told the story once of being on stage in a play doing a scene with another actor, and SLO couldn't remember his next line. Angling so that they both faced away from the audience, he whispered "what's my next line?" to the other actor, who responded with silence and moved away from him on stage. SLO improvised, and when the scene was over demanded of the other actor "why didn't you tell me my line??" The other actor responded "I don't work that way!!"
 
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