Daniil Medvedev: chief superbrat

Aabye5

Aabye5

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Secretly, I am a bit pleased that Daniil Medvedev has managed to put himself ahead of his two chief rivals, Alexander Zverev and Stefanos Tsitsipas in terms of on-court achievements. A win over one of the big 3 and a major title as well as four other major finals, compared to 1 final for Zverev and 2 finals for Tsitsipas. Only Alcaraz has more. This wave of NextGen players, that also could include Nick Kyrgios, has arguably seen more coverage of their bratty antics than their tennis feats.

Additionally, Medvedev leads the M1000 count, 6 - 5 - 2, has reached the number 1 ranking and boasts the most total wins over Novak in the top 10 (tied with Zverev).

Although the other two stars were much lauded when they first arrived on scene, the pretty boys both had chinks in their armor that the big 3 and even other players have since been able to exploit. It would be great for tennis if they were able to make the majors more competitive, and they have started to right the ship in 2023.

Still, the Octopus was always somewhat underrated due to his unorthodox everything, so it will be interesting to see if he can keep his nose ahead in 2024.
 
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Jonesy

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I hope we can see more Medcaraz matches on HC slams in 2024. It is obvious Med is inferior to Alcaraz everywhere else, but at HC slams is where Med shows his real prowess as proved in the USO this year.
 
nolefam_2024

nolefam_2024

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Aabye5 said:
Secretly, I am a bit pleased that Daniil Medvedev has managed to put himself ahead of his two chief rivals, Alexander Zverev and Stefanos Tsitsipas in terms of on-court achievements. A win over one of the big 3 and a major title as well as four other major finals, compared to 1 final for Zverev and 2 finals for Tsitsipas. Only Alcaraz has more. This wave of NextGen players, that also could include Nick Kyrgios, has arguably seen more coverage of their bratty antics than their tennis feats.

Additionally, Medvedev leads the M1000 count, 6 - 5 - 2, has reached the number 1 ranking and boasts the most total wins over Novak in the top 10 (tied with Zverev).

Although the other two stars were much lauded when they first arrived on scene, the pretty boys both had chinks in their armor that the big 3 and even other players have since been able to exploit. It would be great for tennis if they were able to make the majors more competitive, and they have started to right the ship in 2023.

Still, the Octopus was always somewhat underrated due to his unorthodox everything, so it will be interesting to see if he can keep his nose ahead in 2024.
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He is rated correctly. His strokes are not good enough to take big titles like slams from the chief competition. Eg. In USO 2020 he was straight setted by Thiem who himself was in his first USO semis, while Medvedev had reached a final before.


But he is vastly better than tsitsipas which we all knew when he put a 6-0 H2H at the start. And he is better than Zverev who is a big choker.

Medvedev pushed Nadal to five in USO final where he was down 2 sets. Then he choked vs Nadal in AO final where he was up 2 sets. If we discount the set criteria, he gave a huge challenge to Nadal who is the third best hard court player in 2000s. That's not bad at all. So he is rated just as much. He also has 1 slam but we are not expecting him to win 4 or more slams. His cap is at 2 to 3 slams.
 
Aabye5

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nachiket nolefam said:
He is rated correctly. His strokes are not good enough to take big titles like slams from the chief competition. Eg. In USO 2020 he was straight setted by Thiem who himself was in his first USO semis, while Medvedev had reached a final before.


But he is vastly better than tsitsipas which we all knew when he put a 6-0 H2H at the start. And he is better than Zverev who is a big choker.

Medvedev pushed Nadal to five in USO final where he was down 2 sets. Then he choked vs Nadal in AO final where he was up 2 sets. If we discount the set criteria, he gave a huge challenge to Nadal who is the third best hard court player in 2000s. That's not bad at all. So he is rated just as much. He also has 1 slam but we are not expecting him to win 4 or more slams. His cap is at 2 to 3 slams.
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If Nole slows a step or two (not likely, but he is aging), it will be interesting to see how the draw shapes up. Is Sinner or Medvedev a bigger threat to Novak in Melbourne or New York, for example?
 
nolefam_2024

nolefam_2024

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Aabye5 said:
If Nole slows a step or two (not likely, but he is aging), it will be interesting to see how the draw shapes up. Is Sinner or Medvedev a bigger threat to Novak in Melbourne or New York, for example?
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I think as Djokovic declines, these three youngsters are getting better. So if Medvedev becomes a threat, these three will be too. And they have yet to reach their ceilings while Medvedev has already.
 
Aabye5

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Mainad said:
From the thread title I thought you were going to give us examples of why you think he is the most brattish amongst his rivals! :cool:
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Med's meltdown in New York imposed chaos even at one of the most zooish tennis parks in the world, so he definitely ranks highly.

He's not quite as thuggish as Chainz! but he also didn't take a swipe at anyone with his like Stefanos. In sum, he is a bratty motormouth.

 
Aabye5

Aabye5

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travlerajm said:
You sayin’ I’m not pretty!?
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I'm saying he's a wet fish (his own brand of pretty):

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Would you call that dancing? Others wouldn't, but I give credit to the kid with two gangly arms who is nothing if not memorable.
 
Shaolin

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Kralingen said:
He has a vile personality and a disgusting on-court persona. He’s horrible. If you don’t see it by now, I think you’re being willfully ignorant.
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Chill, man. I never said he was St. Francis of Assisi.

He's always a tough competitor and never rolls over for anyone, plus his deep return positioning is a nightmare to serve against. He presents interesting matchups and forces players that don't normally come to net to s&v.
 
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Kralingen

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Shaolin said:
Chill, man. I never said he was St. Francis of Assisi.

He's always a tough competitor and never rolls over for anyone, plus his deep return positioning is a nightmare to serve against. He presents interesting matchups and forces players that don't normally come to net to s&v.
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I’m not talking about his game whatsoever.

Also, I take it you haven’t seen the AO 21 or 22 finals if you think he “never rolls over for anyone”
 
The Blond Blur

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I used to ride with the Mad Lad starting back in 2019 during the 2-1 Open. I loved that he gave it back to the NYC ala Connors style. He was unapologetically a ****. Where he lost me was after the 2022 AO F he played the victim mentality card by saying “The boy’s dream is dead” because the crowd did to him…what he was doing to them in the first place. Basically it was a reverse 2019 2-1 Open situation. If you’re going to dish it out then you better be willing to take it.
 
Aabye5

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mike danny said:
I mean, sure, but him failing to make the other 2 finals close when Djokovic wasn't completely dreadful does tell us something.
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Not really. I still maintain that Med may have injured himself in his semi vs Alcaraz this year.

It's hard to really say Djokovic was physically drained in his loss. It was more like he was mentally drained at the pressure of completing the Grand Slam. Medvedev rightly used that to his advantage. I can think of other NextGen players who would have likely blinked at such an occasion.
 
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ALCARAZWON

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Nadal's win over Medvedev in the AO Final is the greatest viewing experience of my tennis career, so I thank Medvedev for getting that 2-sets-to-love lead.
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Zardoz7/12

Zardoz7/12

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Medvedev is the stopgap between Alcaraz/Djokovic and the rest but Sinner will hopefully change that in 2024.

Lastly Medvedev has a real bad temper, when he gets angry he's got nasty eyes as my mother put it.
 
jimdontcare

jimdontcare

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"Interesting" sounds like a lazy word to describe a player, but that's the word I think applies to Medvedev most for me. Unorthodox counterpunching is interesting. He's a loudmouth but in a dry, humorous, and intelligent way, which we don't get enough of in sports, so that's interesting. I think his persona absolutely is a net positive for the sport, unlike Kyrgios for an easy comparison. I could make an argument he's even better for the sport than r/tennis sweetheart Rublev.
 
itrium84

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Aabye5 said:
Secretly, I am a bit pleased that Daniil Medvedev has managed to put himself ahead of his two chief rivals, Alexander Zverev and Stefanos Tsitsipas in terms of on-court achievements. A win over one of the big 3 and a major title as well as four other major finals, compared to 1 final for Zverev and 2 finals for Tsitsipas. Only Alcaraz has more. This wave of NextGen players, that also could include Nick Kyrgios, has arguably seen more coverage of their bratty antics than their tennis feats.

Additionally, Medvedev leads the M1000 count, 6 - 5 - 2, has reached the number 1 ranking and boasts the most total wins over Novak in the top 10 (tied with Zverev).

Although the other two stars were much lauded when they first arrived on scene, the pretty boys both had chinks in their armor that the big 3 and even other players have since been able to exploit. It would be great for tennis if they were able to make the majors more competitive, and they have started to right the ship in 2023.

Still, the Octopus was always somewhat underrated due to his unorthodox everything, so it will be interesting to see if he can keep his nose ahead in 2024.
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He's such a cheerful and wholesome guy, I like him :)
 
aldeayeah

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The Blond Blur said:
I used to ride with the Mad Lad starting back in 2019 during the 2-1 Open. I loved that he gave it back to the NYC ala Connors style. He was unapologetically a ****. Where he lost me was after the 2022 AO F he played the victim mentality card by saying “The boy’s dream is dead” because the crowd did to him…what he was doing to them in the first place. Basically it was a reverse 2019 2-1 Open situation. If you’re going to dish it out then you better be willing to take it.
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Yeah I generally like him but he sometines whines too much. I hope the lovely Daria disciplined him properly.
 
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pirhaksar

pirhaksar

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I like Daniil, he is a quirky personality and adds something to the game. Game wise nothing to write about is effective and gets him the Ws. Not many can say they beat Djokovic in a final in straights and almost beat Rafa the very next time.
 
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ALCARAZWON

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Zardoz7/12 said:
Medvedev is the stopgap between Alcaraz/Djokovic and the rest but Sinner will hopefully change that in 2024.

Lastly Medvedev has a real bad temper, when he gets angry he's got nasty eyes as my mother put it.
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Nadal will bury them all in 2024 and 2025.
They are all stopgaps, while Nadal just keeps coming back and regaining the throne.
 
Razer

Razer

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Kralingen said:
They both are. But Medvedev is worse
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I normally find Medvedev okayish, but it is Tsistipas who rubs me the wrong way, and looks like for you it is Medvedev whom you dislike the most on tour.

But I'm not surprised, outside of Thiem the 4 best players born in the 1990s are the most hated - Kyrgios, Zverev, Medvedev and Tsistipas ..... all 4 of them can be called as a blot on the tour in some way or the other depending on whom you ask.
 
Razer

Razer

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soldat said:
I also generally like Medvedev. I think Medvedevs antics are within the normal range of releasing frustration, and his interviews are always smart and he is quite well spoken.
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Yes Medvedev is fine. His volatile impulses are all within the permissible range of quirky behaviour.

For me Stefanos is the worst that the 1990s gen has to offer. He IMO is a bit worse than Kyrgios who is close enough. Despite the nonsense that Nick speaks/behaves I still find him better than Stefan.

Stefanos is petulant like a manchild, thinks too high of himself to write useless plagiarized philosophy or give wisdom, on the court he is a disgrace, a crybaby, is dull gamewise & personalitywise, chokes on the tennis court.... .. a total dud in every possible way.
 
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